Completely agree. In high school jok and Uthoff had an uncanny ability to get their shot off so easily and I think we will start to see it next yr from both as they are incredible ball players in that their skillsets are tough to defend at their size for their positions.
Peter Jok
- Thread starter BlacknGold19
- Start date
Completely agree. In high school jok and Uthoff had an uncanny ability to get their shot off so easily and I think we will start to see it next yr from both as they are incredible ball players in that their skillsets are tough to defend at their size for their positions.
He absolutely embarrassed Gary Harris at the end of the MSU game. Maybe Harris wasn't giving 100% effort since the game was decided but either way it was an extremely quick move.
biasedHAWKEYE
Well-Known Member
Jok needs to get more comfortable in a zone D. He's definitely a shooter. Improve on the defensive end and hes going to be an awesome player for Iowa the next three seasons.
I don't remember and it was only one play with Iowa down 15-20 points probably. Jok is a shooter for sure. Lets see if he becomes a creator and passable defender.
1977Hawkeye
Well-Known Member
I have to agree.. What I saw of Pete next year, he needs to get a LOT more minutes next year. Oglesby has a good shot, sure, but IMO Jok has a far higher ceiling. If Oglesby gets more minutes next year than Jok, either Jok has underperformed, Oglesby has overperformed, or both. Or Fran has his head up his butt.
Guess we'll see, but I expect PJ to be an important scorer for us next year and get lots of minutes. His defense can, and should, improve.
FranklinHawk
Well-Known Member
I'm not sure it highlights anything other than he is improving and has a very high ceiling. Earlier in the year he was in "high school mode" and pressing too much trying to be the guy on offense, and was completely lost on defense. What you've seen the last couple games is simply progression from a Freshman and getting to the point where Fran knew he could have a positive impact. He is learning to play D and letting the game come to him on the offensive end, which I think will be a very good thing for the Hawks in the future.
gohawkz
Well-Known Member
ibahawkeye
Well-Known Member
Good stuff... Post more
knighthawk13
Well-Known Member
Marble wasn't good on defense? He was 5th in the B1G in steals and was by far our best perimeter defender this year. If you want to point out bad defense, look at Aaron White. When Kale Abrahamson beats you off the dribble, you are struggling.
ibahawkeye
Well-Known Member
I'm losing respect for Foval... He thinks Ogelsby is a good defender and marble isn't??? Say what???
If I talk about Aaron and his defense not good would be being nice. He is non existent on that end. Marble doesn't play hard on defense except when he chooses. That isn't good defense. Steals are many times gambles that if you miss give up easy baskets. Relying on steal stats is not always a good indicator of defensive prowess...sometimes it means you gamble because you have people that can make up for your mistake if you miss...like a 7'1 and 6'10 pairing of centers who alter shots...along with Uthoff who blocks shots and basabe. Gesell struggled at the end of the yr but for the most part he was our best perimeter defender.
hawkdrummer1
Well-Known Member
I'm beginning to think this may suit Fran's style best. The key is having 2 big guys that play tough. We could use a 6'8"-6'9" enforcer rebounder type to compliment Woody/Gabe. Think Kent Hill/Reggie Evans/James Winters/Ed Horton. Basabe, but ideally a guy a little bigger.
RocknRollface
Well-Known Member
Gesell was the best perimeter defender by a wide margin.
Aaron White is disgusting to watch on defense, his focus is almost completely on trying to get steals for runnouts, his gambling is exactly what you are not supposed to do.
WindsorHawk
Well-Known Member
It's highly unlikely Pete will have the career scoring numbers, etc. that Marble has. However, I think Jok will be the better offensive player of the two when all is said and done. I think he will also be a solid defensive player by his junior year.
Completely agree...though I think jok could end up putting up haluska type numbers his senior yr.
HawkMD2007
Well-Known Member
I haven't seen enough from Jok to be as optimistic as some of the posters. We have a tendency to think the best player is always the one on the bench.
Peter needs to get control of his handles and step up on defense if he wants to consistently see the court in Big 10 play. He's capable but nowhere near ready today.
Peter needs to get control of his handles and step up on defense if he wants to consistently see the court in Big 10 play. He's capable but nowhere near ready today.
I think you're thinking of football when you say that. In basketball you actually see the backups play. No on thinks jok is the best player on the team right now. It doesn't take a genious to see that he might become the best offensive player though.
WindsorHawk
Well-Known Member
My comments are based on the Jok I saw play multiple times before the knee issues. He looks healthy to me. If he stays healthy there is no limit to what he can do. It appears to me he's worked hard to get better this season even when stopped getting minutes so the drive to improve seems to be present.
The 3 best players I've ever watched in person (before their senior year of high school) are Kirk Hinrich, Harrison Barnes and Peter Jok.
