Penn State Gets Hammer: Worse than Death Penalty?
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SpiderRico
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No, what is astonishingly ignorant is that you think that PSU can field a decent team on just PA kids alone.
In addition, when they go 8 whole years with 2-3 wins per year, we'll see just how much the BEST players in PA will want to go there.
bws258
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I didn't say that buddy. But I did question the omniscience you assumed when laying out your tidy timeline, including win totals, etc.
ssckelley
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But who exactly are the NCAA punishing? They did not take anything away other than 10 scholarships and 4 potential bowl games. The people of Penn State, the community, will still be able to live on as if nothing happened. If they truly want to change the culture at Penn State then prove football is not more important than the laws of our land, shut it down. By just taking away 10 scholarships all you are doing is punishing the existing coaching staff and making it more difficult for the existing team to win. The ones that really need to be punished still get to enjoy their Penn State football. The student body, community, alumni, former players, all these people that have come out and defended Paterno and the football program that helped create this culture get off with nothing.
I guess paying football recruits is way worse than covering up for a pedophile.
JonDMiller
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These people worship Penn State football, and the notion that they won't be competing for much the next several years is killing them. Watch some of the shots from the student union today when the punishments were read...it's like they were watching 9/11 footage.
For some of them, a part of their identity has been stripped away. Go to their message boards. They have been punished.
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OatesStache
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Jesus, this is just so horribly thought out it is astounding. Penn St. just lost the ability to compete. The team will have no depth, they will have much less money to invest in the program, they will have no hope to play in a significant game in the future.
Good players are not going to go there. And the next generation of kids in Pennsylvania will never know a respectable PSU program. They won't come there either.
ICHawk24
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Even if they get 75k, with that many empty seats, they'll have to charge less than Iowa does. Iowa will easily have higher revenue.
I think they'll be better than where they are today. They have been held back by having a figurehead as a head coach and his incompetent son as an offensive coach for over a decade. Penn St will be an elite job after Bill O'Brien is fired after guiding Penn St through the sanctions. I expect you'll continue to see an increase in donations as this NCAA punishment will just strengthen their "football culture" and alumni will donate enough to more than compensate for their fines.
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OatesStache
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Where do you people come up with this stuff?
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Scorpio79
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I find myself in the unprecedented position of totally agreeing with you. It feels weird.
glidinghawk
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It's humiliating. A huge kick to the gut. A total embarrassment. Much sadness and downright depression. I saw one post where a long-time Penn State alumnus was seeking psychotherapy because of the entire situation.
ssckelley
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Jon, I have been but wait until football Saturday comes back around most of this will soon be forgotten. Their reaction is not surprising they were waiting for the hammer to come down and my guess is they would have reacted the same way had they only taken 5 scholarships away. The only small punishment they got was taking away part of Paternos legacy by stripping the wins away.
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Scorpio79
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Take a minute and let his post sink in, guy.
The Church of Almighty Football is alive at penn state; none of the recent attempts to kill it have succeeded.
La Famiglia PSU will redouble the efforts to circle the wagons and they will find a way to make lemonade out of these lemons. It's how they roll up there in crappy valley.
FalseMirage
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Joepa failed miserably at doing the right thing because doing so would have gotten in the way of his quest to be the coach with the most wins. How fitting that "honor" has been taken away from him.
eveningnewsteam
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If every freshman or sophomore transfers out, they will have 36 scholarship players for the 2012 season. All of them will probably not transfer, but thats how severe this could potentially be already for this season. They were also counting on a number of those underclassman to fill important roles this year. If that were to happen, PSU might as well just cancel the season.
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Scorpio79
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What are the odds that his whackadoo family will actually accept the new reality?
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Scorpio79
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You're referring of course to what sandusky's victims have had to deal with?
Right??
SpiderRico
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Everyone is forgetting one other big change that's going to be happening as a result of this punishment.....
And that's all the compliance and monitoring that they have to go thorugh over the next several years, both with internally hired people as well as NCAA people. Anyone who has had to deal with outside compliance people knows how much of a pain in the a$$ this is.....and PSU has to put up with it for YEARS.
And to the person talking about "only" reducing scholarships by 10 per year must have missed the part where they are capped at 65 per year. Do you have any idea how hard it will be for them to even COMPETE against FBS level teams with 20 fewer scholarship players on their roster?
Make no mistake about it, PSU football, for all intents and purposes, is dead for the next decade.
And that's all the compliance and monitoring that they have to go thorugh over the next several years, both with internally hired people as well as NCAA people. Anyone who has had to deal with outside compliance people knows how much of a pain in the a$$ this is.....and PSU has to put up with it for YEARS.
And to the person talking about "only" reducing scholarships by 10 per year must have missed the part where they are capped at 65 per year. Do you have any idea how hard it will be for them to even COMPETE against FBS level teams with 20 fewer scholarship players on their roster?
Make no mistake about it, PSU football, for all intents and purposes, is dead for the next decade.
I agree. Paterno has been hurting their program in more ways than one the past ten or so years.
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