Painter's Thug Defense

[ICHAWK]

I clearly saw McCabe extend his elbow and arm in the chest of the defender to get some separation in the 1st half, so it was going both ways....the refs let them play, and that's fine.....and who cares about Purdue's defense....your main goal is to get the ball in the basket and we proved once again that we can't deliver when we have open looks....we continue to play tentative on offense and pretty damn soft on defense....someone needs to step up and put their big boy pants on and start playing with more aggression (wrong term), maybe with more assertiveness

McCabe grabs all day on the defensive end. Gatens last year was constantly grabbing offensive players just like Craft does.

It is really all over college basketball. The grabbing and physical play is not just a Big 10 thing. I mean Iowa was mugging T. Johnson on Purdue when he drove to the hoop.

I think Iowa needs to push the ball a lot more if they want to avoid playing so much 1/2 court ball where you are going to be facing more physical play.

I think Iowa passes up a ton of open looks, but at the same time they are good decisions. I mean how often do you really want Eric May shooting the ball. At times though he just needs to chuck it up there. If Iowa wants to play in the upper 70's to 80's they are going to have to start shooting the ball more often.

 

[pin2win]

one thing that bugs me with bball is the refs are always the scapegoat for some fans. ALWAYS

 

[Hawknick]

The refs were either paid off or blind.The no call on the 3 point attempt foul in OT was a nearly criminal.

 

[vosov]

I watched the first half with no sound while I was on the elliptical(That's right, fatties.) Nearly every time down the court(both ways) I was waiting for everyone to get in position for free throws after the shooting foul. The ball would be past half court before it occurred to me that no foul was called.

 

[storminspank]

I didn't think the hand-checking was too bad in this one.

 

[storminspank]

Like someone said, this isn't isolated to Purdue.

Last year, I want to 6 of Michigan's home Big Ten games and it was every team.

When players went through the lane, grabbed, in corners got held and pushed out of bounds.

The worst ones: Purdue, Wisconsin and Illinois
The cleanest games: Indiana, Ohio State (outside of Craft, he is the worst, when his hands are down he grabs the lead arm of the offensive player all the time)
Didn't matter: Northwestern

Michigan was bullied by Purdue at home last season and lost and almost did again this year.

Some teams just match up better due to styles. Michigan isn't a physical team and I didn't see a lot of the grabbing and holding that the other teams mentioned do, even this year when I watched the Iowa game.

MSU is pretty physical on D as well.

 

[dave3912]

I didn't think the hand-checking was too bad in this one.

I didn't notice it except when Byrd was playing on someone, that man is a slapper.

I hope he isn't that way with the ladies when he wants something from them and they won't give it up.

 

[storminspank]

I didn't notice it except when Byrd was playing on someone, that man is a slapper.

I hope he isn't that way with the ladies when he wants something from them and they won't give it up.

And a flopper. Between Hulls and Byrd, it's a runout for biggest non-defending defender in the B1G.

 

[bcl20]

one thing that bugs me with bball is the refs are always the scapegoat for some fans. ALWAYS

People complain about the refs in sports people watch.

 

[HawkeyeMHA]

It was a very physical game, just the way it was. Next topic

 

[dave3912]

And a flopper. Between Hulls and Byrd, it's a runout for biggest non-defending defender in the B1G.

That is one of the reasons I don't care for basketball as much as football, too much flopping.

 

[storminspank]

People complain about the refs in sports people watch.

Especially college basketball where it's the most subjective officiating in almost all of sports.
Not to mention they can impact the game heavily. [see: Indiana/MSU over the weekend]

 

[dave3912]

People complain about the refs in sports people watch.

This just isn't true and you know it. Iowa fans never disagree with calls/no calls from refs, ever, period.

 

[storminspank]

And the NCAA lied to us:
NCAA to regulate 'incessant flopping' under basket | Hoop Thoughts | FanNation.com

 

[pin2win]

People complain about the refs in sports people watch.

beg to differ its absolutely horrible in bball compared to all other sports

i am also a hawk basketball fan so don't play the im a dumb wrestler card

 

[HawkeyeMHA]

Being an official is an extremely difficult job. Every d bag in the stands and every Peter pumper at home knows everything about everything and sees every call that was such an obvious call. You couldn't pay me enough to do it and 99 percent of us couldn't. I you are a grown man and spend your days complaining about officiating you deserve a good kick in the gonads just because you are a dum dum.

 

[sportstalent]

MSU is pretty physical on D as well.

I didn't see that one, my wife is a huge UofM fan, but game those tickets away as a Christmas present. That is one team I want to see live and just see how physical they are.

Bertrand from Illinois was probably worse than Craft actually because on top of grabbing, holding, tripping, he was also the biggest trash talker on the floor. He was guarding Hardaway and it was rather funny when Hardaway hit two 3's right over him.

 

[dave3912]

Being an official is an extremely difficult job. Every d bag in the stands and every Peter pumper at home knows everything about everything and sees every call that was such an obvious call. You couldn't pay me enough to do it and 99 percent of us couldn't. I you are a grown man and spend your days complaining about officiating you deserve a good kick in the gonads just because you are a dum dum.

WTF?

 

[sportstalent]

Especially college basketball where it's the most subjective officiating in almost all of sports.
Not to mention they can impact the game heavily. [see: Indiana/MSU over the weekend]

What team was the beneficiary in that one, just curious on your thoughts?

 

[storminspank]

WTF?

He meant Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater