Nerd!
Our big win out the window?
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Nerd!
MiniMoeHawk
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Want to do my statistics homework?
tm3308
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You would also have to give Nebraska a loss instead of a win, since they're W/L factors in heavily to RPI.
ssckelley
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Yeah but I bet my wife is hotter than yours!
All us nerds ever think about is sex........oh and RPI.
ssckelley
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I said it wasn't exact, adding a loss to Nebraska has a relatively minor impact to our opponents W-L record. I say minor because, again, you are moving a much larger number which was part of my point. There is also minor impacts to opponents/opponents records as well. Even if it "only" moved Iowa up to 65th, that is still one heck of a jump from 78th.
ssckelley
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IPA, the RPI is all about numbers. Where Nebraska is ranked has zero impact on the RPI score. It is all about the teams win percentage, the opponents win percentage, and the opponents opponents win percentage.
What you are talking about is tournament resume, which the committee also uses to determine big wins and bad losses. Putting that loss on Nebraska would have knocked them out of the RPI top 100, but I think the fact that Iowa lost at Nebraska hurt them more in the eyes of the committee more than beating them at home. At the end of the day Iowa would have been in the tournament, I cannot imagine the committee keeping out a 10-8 B1G team (22-11 overall) considered the toughest conference. But an RPI ranked in the 60s probably would have made Iowa one of the last teams in the tournament and ultimately playing in the 1st round (to 1977's point about seedings).
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jacknicholson
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Minnesota is better than thought and will be a tough win at Carver, but we can do it. There at least two ways to look at the OSU loss at Williams. It was on the road and we beat them at Columbus, which is difficult for any team. Our win trumps Minnesotas, but takes some of the luster off our magnificent win, which was very important as far as finally finding the ability and mental toughness to close out a difficult victory over ranked opponents.....
Minnesota will be overconfident coming to Carver and that should work in our favor. We must hold home court the entire season. Minnesota is a very good defensive team and quick, forturately we usually have 4/5 players on the floor who can bring the ball upcourt and they are not used to playing a team as uptempo as the Hawks who either lead the nation or are close to the top in getting the ball upcourt......
This makes the game more interesting. We were starting to defeat Minnesota under Tubby, unfortunately Pitano has them playing well. They are not to be taken lightly. The Big is very tough this year, except for NW, the rest of the league can win on a given night. Purdue will be tough with their center who is certainly pro bound.....
Minnesota will be overconfident coming to Carver and that should work in our favor. We must hold home court the entire season. Minnesota is a very good defensive team and quick, forturately we usually have 4/5 players on the floor who can bring the ball upcourt and they are not used to playing a team as uptempo as the Hawks who either lead the nation or are close to the top in getting the ball upcourt......
This makes the game more interesting. We were starting to defeat Minnesota under Tubby, unfortunately Pitano has them playing well. They are not to be taken lightly. The Big is very tough this year, except for NW, the rest of the league can win on a given night. Purdue will be tough with their center who is certainly pro bound.....
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HawkeyeHypnosis
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Minnesota is better than thought and will be a tough win at Carver, but we can do it. There at least two ways to look at the OSU loss at Williams. It was on the road and we beat them at Columbus, which is difficult for any team. Our win trumps Minnesotas, but takes some of the luster off our magnificent win, which was very important as far as finally finding the ability and mental toughness to close out a difficult victory over ranked opponents.....
Minnesota will be overconfident coming to Carver and that should work in our favor. We must hold home court the entire season. Minnesota is a very good defensive team and quick, forturately we usually have 4/5 players on the floor who can bring the ball upcourt and they are not used to playing a team as uptempo as the Hawks who either lead the nation or are close to the top in getting the ball downcourt......
This makes the game more interesting. We were starting to defeat Minnesota under Tubby, unfortunately Pitano has them playing well. They are not to be taken lightly. The Big is very tough this year, except for NW, the rest of the league can win on a given night. Purdue will be tough with their center who is certainly pro bound.....
Depends if he decides to play. You never know what your going to get with Hammonds. Lets hope we get the unenthusiastic version. He will go pro though.
ShadasRevenge
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How does Minnesota beating Ohio State at The Barn diminish Iowa winning in Columbus? How many more home games do you expect Ohio State to lose? Minnesota is a decent team, and winning on the road is difficult for anyone. Wisconsin got beat by an average Indiana team. Illinois lost at NORTHWESTERN.
lightning1
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Now you're just being greedy.
The win against OSU is not out the window at all.
1. Minnesota is not that a bad team. Took MSU to overtime in Lansing.
2. Having them beat OSU I believe is a very good thing. Below is why.
With Iowa next up for Minnesota, the Hawks will definitely not take the Gophers lightly. Not that this would have happened had OSU won, but now the Hawks will come out fully prepared Sunday.
Sometimes things happen for a reason and what happened in Minneapolis Thursday night I will view as a good thing.
clicheusername3
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OSU is getting found out but that doesn't diminish what happened at the time.
lightning1
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Wisconsin and OSU are getting exposed by conference coaches that can exploit some of their weaknesses. The same thing could happen to us but because we can score in the half court and in transition, it's more difficult to slow us down.
I'm impressed with MINN a little bit. They have a PG that can penetrate. Collins can get into the lane or shoot from outside, on the wing and they have a couple of decent post players. The Barn won't be an easy out for anyone.
I'm impressed with MINN a little bit. They have a PG that can penetrate. Collins can get into the lane or shoot from outside, on the wing and they have a couple of decent post players. The Barn won't be an easy out for anyone.
Bigtenchamp
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just shows how hard it is to win on the road in the big ten.
Exactly, but if Iowa is serious about making a title run they WILL NOT lose on Sunday to this Goof team.
Iowa has to wipe the slate at home this year, I don't care who the opponent is. That is how champions get it done.
Billso
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I was told there would be no math here.
tm3308
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Because 'Murica.
tm3308
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I disagree with this. Eliason is a solid rebounder, but none of their forwards are averaging 7 points per game and Eliason is the only one averaging more than 3.3 boards per game. Minnesota is going to be a tough out at the Barn for just about everyone, but they are completely centered on their guard play (four guards are averaging at least 9.9 ppg, led by Dre Hollins at 15.9 ppg). Assuming they make the tourney, they'll be dangerous with that backcourt.
