OT: Pro Bowl

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NorthKCHawk

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This is OT, but the Board is slow right now. Anyway, I am in Vegas and watched the Iowa game at the Aria Sports Book and was forced to endure also watching the Pro Bowl. Can we all agree that the game is a joke and absolutely unwatchable? It is an affront to football. That said, I don't blame the players. You don't risk your body for 80k and I am sure they sort of have fun clowning around. There is no way to get these guys to play hard and make it a real game. The NFL is not going to get rid of it because it still makes money. So, I have a creative fix.

Every player on an active NFL roster can declare themselves draftable for the pro bowl, but they must agree to play 100%. Think younger guys who were late rounders and are good, but still have a lot to prove and would love a big stage to show their talents. It would be worth the risk to play all out. Then, the actual pro bowl selection gets to pick the player that declares that he believes is most like him in skillset. In other words, Patrick Mahommes would draft a standin to play in the game in his place. Then they play the game with the stand in players with the real players on the sidelines coaching them up and doing interviews and the like. Make it a real F'ing game, but still have the star power of sorts. Also, the stand ins get the money, not the stars. I like that the winners get more. Again, to these guys, 80k for a days work is real money.

Its not an amazing idea, but its better than the trash that the NFL is currently pedaling.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
This is OT, but the Board is slow right now. Anyway, I am in Vegas and watched the Iowa game at the Aria Sports Book and was forced to endure also watching the Pro Bowl. Can we all agree that the game is a joke and absolutely unwatchable? It is an affront to football. That said, I don't blame the players. You don't risk your body for 80k and I am sure they sort of have fun clowning around. There is no way to get these guys to play hard and make it a real game. The NFL is not going to get rid of it because it still makes money. So, I have a creative fix.

Every player on an active NFL roster can declare themselves draftable for the pro bowl, but they must agree to play 100%. Think younger guys who were late rounders and are good, but still have a lot to prove and would love a big stage to show their talents. It would be worth the risk to play all out. Then, the actual pro bowl selection gets to pick the player that declares that he believes is most like him in skillset. In other words, Patrick Mahommes would draft a standin to play in the game in his place. Then they play the game with the stand in players with the real players on the sidelines coaching them up and doing interviews and the like. Make it a real F'ing game, but still have the star power of sorts. Also, the stand ins get the money, not the stars. I like that the winners get more. Again, to these guys, 80k for a days work is real money.

Its not an amazing idea, but its better than the trash that the NFL is currently pedaling.
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NFL as a whole is trash. College basketball and football are better than their professional counterparts in every way.

If it sucks, why watch? I'm a Vikings fan at heart, but didn't watch a single game from start to finish, and usually the only time I pay attention to pro games is to see Hawkeye players. Spend your money and viewership time on stuff that you like.
 
I haven't watched a Pro Bowl in prolly 30 years, but the last time I watched I think they made them run a base 4-3 and blitzing was against the rules. You have to do that with football. You can't expect a line that hasn't played together to be able to block 4 elite linemen and watch out for a blitz. Some QB will get freaking killed. Football is simply not conducive to any sort of all star format. Congratulations on finally figuring that out.
 
Fryowa said:
NFL as a whole is trash. College basketball and football are better than their professional counterparts in every way.

If it sucks, why watch? I'm a Vikings fan at heart, but didn't watch a single game from start to finish, and usually the only time I pay attention to pro games is to see Hawkeye players. Spend your money and viewership time on stuff that you like.
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Sports go as follows:

1) College football
2) College wrestling
3) Food network reruns
4) Take the dog for a walk
5) Yardwork
6) Read
7) Check HN
8) NCAA tournament
9) NIT when Iowa is in it
10) College basketball outside the tournament
11) October MLB
12) NFL playoffs

Anything below 12 is not watchable unless it is NHL, MLB or NASCAR and you are actually at the event and paid less than $100 to take your kid.
 
I am not sure who is watching but it will get a decent number TV rating wise. That number will be higher than the most watched episode of Yellowstone or something crazy like that. The NFL prints money.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Sports go as follows:

1) College football
2) College wrestling
3) Food network reruns
4) Take the dog for a walk
5) Yardwork
6) Read
7) Check HN
8) NCAA tournament
9) NIT when Iowa is in it
10) College basketball outside the tournament
11) October MLB
12) NFL playoffs

Anything below 12 is not watchable unless it is NHL, MLB or NASCAR and you are actually at the event and paid less than $100 to take your kid.
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My two boys are football nuts and were asking me what the Pro Bowl was all about (since they saw commercials for it) - so we tuned in yesterday for a bit. I hadn't watched in years - if you haven't either, you'd be shocked. There isn't any tackling, and some weird rules with down and distance I didn't really follow. Pretty much unwatchable, and I was out after a few plays. I'd compare it to really liking a couple bands' music, and then tuning in to watch members of those bands play in a celebrity softball contest.
 
So long as it makes $ with TV advertisers it'll be a thing... Nobody cares if they are competitive or not. Football isn't a game you can really go 50% at. Way too much money at stake for those guys to really go at it. The agents the coaches the owners are all on the same page about that. I don't watch it I'm not sure who all does but it is what it is no point in complaining about it.
 
SwirlinLingerie said:
My two boys are football nuts and were asking me what the Pro Bowl was all about (since they saw commercials for it) - so we tuned in yesterday for a bit. I hadn't watched in years - if you haven't either, you'd be shocked. There isn't any tackling, and some weird rules with down and distance I didn't really follow. Pretty much unwatchable, and I was out after a few plays. I'd compare it to really liking a couple bands' music, and then tuning in to watch members of those bands play in a celebrity softball contest.
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Is it worse than when Garth Brooks changed his name to Chris Gaines? That was pretty cringe and to my knowledge Garth hasn't done anything of note other than tour bince that travesty.
 
I also have not watched a pro bowl in forever, around 30 years, because it became like the NBA all star game which was no defense, just like their regular games. For any of you who remember it the old College All Star game pitting of course college all stars who had already been drafted or picked on nfl teams played last year's nfl champ. Most of the games were over at halftime or mid third qtr but the all stars busted their butts as did the pros. There were a couple of games where a few great all stars put a scare into the big boys.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Sports go as follows:

1) College football
2) College wrestling
3) Food network reruns
4) Take the dog for a walk
5) Yardwork
6) Read
7) Check HN
8) NCAA tournament
9) NIT when Iowa is in it
10) College basketball outside the tournament
11) October MLB
12) NFL playoffs

Anything below 12 is not watchable unless it is NHL, MLB or NASCAR and you are actually at the event and paid less than $100 to take your kid.
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Hockey is fucking awesome live. Can’t stand it on TV.
 
uihawk82 said:
I also have not watched a pro bowl in forever, around 30 years, because it became like the NBA all star game which was no defense, just like their regular games. For any of you who remember it the old College All Star game pitting of course college all stars who had already been drafted or picked on nfl teams played last year's nfl champ. Most of the games were over at halftime or mid third qtr but the all stars busted their butts as did the pros. There were a couple of games where a few great all stars put a scare into the big boys.
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My uncle took me to the all star game against the Bear’s many, many years ago. Next day we went to the Tam O’Shanter Open and watched Player, Nicklaus, Palmer, and Chi Chi hit the ball around. Took a ferry boat to the football game, then to a steakhouse downtown Chi Town run by the mob. My uncle had sold them the bar/restaurant hardware. Dinner was free. Yes. True story.
 
I watched a handful of plays during yesterday's Pro Bowl, and it was obvious they were dogging it. Being given a spot on the team is an honor for a good year in the pros, but it's just unwatchable as far as sports. I did really enjoy the last two rounds of the playoffs; very competitive games. But one thing I do like about the NFL is that the pros have a way of spreading the love around. It's very difficult for even a highly talented team to repeat.

Now, I love college football, but this Southern superiority is wearing thin. Since the powers that be insist on keeping it this way, I hope at the very least Lincoln Riley can get USC back on track.

What I love about college basketball is the looking forward to a mid-major exploding into a deep run in the tournament. A Butler, Loyola story is not going to happen in football. The nature of the sport doesn't lend itself to a 7-5/8-4 team to make the playoffs and take down a Goliath.
 
SmokeTownHawk said:
I watched a handful of plays during yesterday's Pro Bowl, and it was obvious they were dogging it. Being given a spot on the team is an honor for a good year in the pros, but it's just unwatchable as far as sports. I did really enjoy the last two rounds of the playoffs; very competitive games. But one thing I do like about the NFL is that the pros have a way of spreading the love around. It's very difficult for even a highly talented team to repeat.

Now, I love college football, but this Southern superiority is wearing thin. Since the powers that be insist on keeping it this way, I hope at the very least Lincoln Riley can get USC back on track.

What I love about college basketball is the looking forward to a mid-major exploding into a deep run in the tournament. A Butler, Loyola story is not going to happen in football. The nature of the sport doesn't lend itself to a 7-5/8-4 team to make the playoffs and take down a Goliath.
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Don't blame the south. If you don't like it, get better. Ohio is the only formidable team not in the south. Oregon and USC might turn it around, but aside from those three schools, the rest of the teams should probably just give up ever trying to win the natty. Remember that time Cincinnati played Alabama? Lulz.
 
As I said in the opening post, I was watching the Iowa game at the sportsbook and the main tvs and sound were on the pro bowl. So, I watched it involuntarily. I had not watched it in years. It was god awful the last time I watched it, but this was a whole new level. I have attended training camp and seen spirited practices in shells that had more contact.

In general, I love the NFL almost as much as college football. The NFL runs the planet because it is a great product. Most important to me is that it forces parity. Draft orders and salary caps mean that any well run organization can be a winner, whether in Green Bay or New York. You can't buy a superbowl win. You have to draft, hire, sign and coach better than the competition. No other pro sport has those features, and we all know that the college football playing field is titled to the South and that is getting worse, not better, with NIL.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Don't blame the south. If you don't like it, get better. Ohio is the only formidable team not in the south. Oregon and USC might turn it around, but aside from those three schools, the rest of the teams should probably just give up ever trying to win the natty. Remember that time Cincinnati played Alabama? Lulz.
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The major way to get better is to stop the stockpiling of the elite talent in the South. For college football that seems to be a bridge too far. Otherwise, I agree in that all but a comparatively small number of schools, colleges should give up even trying for a natty. This ain't shooty hoops.
 
One solution to this problem is first expanding the playoffs and having higher seeded schools host all games until the championship game. More teams and more games makes it harder for Alabama to get into the title game every year. Forcing southern schools to come visit Columbus/Happy Valley/South Bend etc in December and January could change who gets to the final game as well.
 
SmokeTownHawk said:
Now, I love college football, but this Southern superiority is wearing thin. Since the powers that be insist on keeping it this way, I hope at the very least Lincoln Riley can get USC back on track.
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I get that ESPN favors the SEC, and they get more attention and all that, but what exactly are the powers that be doing to keep the ACC/SEC southern schools superior?

Those schools are in the area of the country with 80% or better of the top recruits, year-round nice weather, more rabid fans (i.e. more athletics revenue), and schools with almost zero academic requirements for admission. Of course they are going to dominate. It's the way it is.

What are “the powers that be” doing?
 
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