OT: Derecho!

[HawkGold]

Hard working implies jobs. Its hard to help when you are poor.

Honestly ,a catastrophe in white Council Bluffs in poor areas high with meth.... how would it go?

 

[Ree4]

I was in thick of this crazy storm on Highway 163 on my way to Des Moines. My hair looked like I tested the power of the lightning.

I was dumb and was in my garage with the door open. Got lucky. (not in that way pervs!)

 

[judzeehawk]

My stepdaughter in Cedar Rapids still doesn't have power.

Finally after 9 days without power while taking care of 3 kids through all of this they have their power back on today!

 

[Northside Hawk]

Like a mostly rural area where people know each other and aren't very diverse.

Seriously Gold? In this thread?

But since we're here I can tell you first hand that urban people have been helping each other too. My daughter lives in Marion. One of my drivers has family in Cedar Rapids and she spent much of her vacation running chainsaws.

Also there was an eleven year old African American boy featured on ABC News using his wheelbarrow to help clear debris out of his neighborhood and other neighborhoods.

This is one instance where your opinions of rural Iowans should have sayed away. So spare us your hypothetical spiel of how certain areas of town are waiting longer than others to get their power restored.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Floydvane, stay safe and we're all praying everyone involved and their families recover quickly. I'm glad we have people like you to step up and can handle situations like this.

It really is amazing how fast they get shit back. This was a collassal storm and most were brought back up in a matter of a couple days. Amazing work.

 

[HawkGold]

Seriously Gold? In this thread?

But since we're here I can tell you first hand that urban people have been helping each other too. My daughter lives in Marion. One of my drivers has family in Cedar Rapids and she spent much of her vacation running chainsaws.

Also there was an eleven year old African American boy featured on ABC News using his wheelbarrow to help clear debris out of his neighborhood and other neighborhoods.

This is one instance where your opinions of rural Iowans should have sayed away. So spare us your hypothetical spiel of how certain areas of town are waiting longer than others to get their power restored.

Marion is hardly urban and for that matter neither is CR. Spare us some of your COVID rants. Of course, helping occurs in poorer areas and with minorities. Poverty-stricken areas are going to have more issues. The insinuation that Iowa is special is an equation of a lot of factors including lack of more widespread poverty and homogenous society. You could also leave your how kids lives are ruined because of no sports in some areas.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Because its harder to help others when you are poor.

Muscle or drive doesn't equate to $$.

So by your theory or logic, If you aren't getting paid you aren't helping. Ok.

 

[HawkGold]

Muscle or drive doesn't equate to $$.

So by your theory or logic, If you aren't getting paid you aren't helping. Ok.

It's a matter of time. OK

 

[MelroseHawkins]

It's a matter of time. OK

Doesn't make sense.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Marion is hardly urban and for that matter neither is CR. Spare us some of your COVID rants. Of course, helping occurs in poorer areas and with minorities. Poverty-stricken areas are going to have more issues. The insinuation that Iowa is special is an equation of a lot of factors including lack of more widespread poverty and homogenous society. You could also leave your how kids lives are ruined because of no sports in some areas.

You are just as guilty as I am. You know what you were insinuating. I never insuinated that Iowa was special, only that people rural and urban were helping each other in time of need.

 

[HawkGold]

Doesn't make sense.

When scrambling to survive plus safety, you can't help much. Working low paid jobs etc...no time

 

[HawkGold]

You are just as guilty as I am. You know what you were insinuating. I never insuinated that Iowa was special, only that people rural and urban were helping each other in time of need.

Maybe we should both go back to Colorado. Lost some brain cells hiking at 14k

 

[Northside Hawk]

Maybe we should both go back to Colorado. Lost some brain cells hiking at 14k

I only made it up to 12k and that was on a ATV. We were near Silverton.

 

[Ree4]

Going up to CR today to hand out food/water, see how it goes.

 

[kicker22]

I'm supposed to be outside of Cedar Rapids at the Tuma Soccer Complex for a league doubleheader next week, it'll be interesting to get to see the area a few weeks after the clean up started. I've heard it's still looks like a war zone in some spots.

 

[Ree4]

Got to work with the Iowa Marketing department and handed out 1000 meals to families in the area. Was fun, people were surprisingly in very good spirits. Incredible experience.

Even got a picture of the bus and my car (they were meant to be together) on the way out!

 

[chucktownhawk]

I went by Ames earlier to Des Moines, the storm had NO effect on the ISU woman. They're all still planted like a tree (the only thing still standing).

 

[AreWeThereYet]

On a side note. The high winds of the derecho seem to have had little effect on wind turbines in the affected areas. Damage due to the storm seems to be isolated to a few incidents involving flying debris. No major collapses reported. It might be noted that the location of a large number of wind farms is to the northwest of the worst storm damage.

 

[Chickenlounge]

I went by Ames earlier to Des Moines, the storm had NO effect on the ISU woman. They're all still planted like a tree (the only thing still standing).

You ever tried cow tipping? It's not as easy as it sounds. Somebody should have told Derecho that.

 

[Fryowa]

On a side note. The high winds of the derecho seem to have had little effect on wind turbines in the affected areas. Damage due to the storm seems to be isolated to a few incidents involving flying debris. No major collapses reported. It might be noted that the location of a large number of wind farms is to the northwest of the worst storm damage.

Used to be a powerlineman, and did power transmission for several windfarms.

Those turbines aren't going anywhere. The generators (the part on top of the actual tower with the rotating assembly) are designed to withstand hurricane force winds. The Zond and Vestas turbines we built line for had a survival wind speed of 165 mph, and that's the speed they'll take and still remain operable afterwards, not the speed at which they get destroyed. The towers aren't really rated like that (other than theoretically) because there aren't winds in North America (or the rest of the world) that get high enough to blow them over unless there was a manufacturing or installation defect. Harvey was a category 4 storm and in Texas almost all of the turbines were operating afterwards and didn't even need any maintenance or repairs. Nothing blew over. A direct hit from a tornado can (and does) take blades off, but the tower still stands up. And those are highly localized events. There are some YouTube videos showing tornado hits.

The foundations are also comically fucking huge. In Iowa Zond/Vestas foundations were 75 ft in diameter and roughly 14 ft thick (they taper as you go out, basically they're a huge dome of solid concrete and rebar), and they're buried under several feet of soil.

You would need sustained winds approaching 200 mph and the help of a bad foundation or tower to knock one down or snap blades. That ain't happening in Iowa.