AreWeThereYet
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Ferentz teams have historically sucked coming off of a bye week. I'm not sure it applies to an extra day of rest.
Odds Against Indiana
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Hawkboys
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Too much coaching?
HawkPowerlifter
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The issue is Indiana can throw or run. Once they got up big, they pounded Illinois with like 12-15 straight run plays. We wont be able to sell out on runs or passes. Phil will have to be very creative with his schemes. Couple that with Lester creating some long, sustained long drives to keep the ball out of their hands. They are somewhat of a tempo style offense. Get them going and it could be a long day for us.
I do think the Rutgers game was much bigger than some realize. A Friday night road game. I believe their homecoming and in their mind a winnable game for them. I'm sure Schiano had this game circled.
The crowd was electric, and we took their best shots and answered. IF we can take that mentality, we have a chance. I'm hoping for some Kinnick magic.
I do think the Rutgers game was much bigger than some realize. A Friday night road game. I believe their homecoming and in their mind a winnable game for them. I'm sure Schiano had this game circled.
The crowd was electric, and we took their best shots and answered. IF we can take that mentality, we have a chance. I'm hoping for some Kinnick magic.
NCHawker
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i'd like to see a list of those opponents. I'll be there are enough 'high quality' opponents to skew it.
SCHawkeye2
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Another chance to beat a ranked team.
Has it been 4 years?
Has it been 4 years?
Fryowa
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This is bunk. I hate when people say that.
Below are all games off byes in the Ferentz era...
Ferentz is 10-12 coming off byes since 1999. 4 of those losses are against Ohio State which are games the Hawks will NEVER be favored in, whatsoever. So as far as that goes, you can throw those out of your argument because they're L's no matter what time of the season they happen. Two of those losses are against ranked Penn State teams, which, bye or not, Iowa would not be favored in. I also have a helluva hard time holding 1999 and 2000 against him because he was a brand new coach in a program that was floundering. What did you expect to happen those 2 years? Be honest.
Iowa has also beaten OSU and Penn State once each coming off a bye.
So...if you're going to say that Ferentz has definitively sucked historically coming off a bye, you're going to have to provide some evidence among context as to why.
NorthKCHawk
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Stop making so much sense.
HawkPowerlifter
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I would love to see us have a performance like when we ambushed Urban Meyer and the Buckeyes.
Fryowa
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Cignetti would have a stroke that made Urban Meyer’s at the time look like child’s play
Fryowa
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Also, do you remember what was different about that game? Iowa—a team that doesn’t blitz—brought the house on repeat that game and took Urbs completely off guard.
Phil if you’re reading this (and I’m sure you are), write that down.
HawkPowerlifter
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Yes!!!! But I hate to say it, that defense was much more talented than the one we have now. Josh Jackson and several others. But Jackson had 3 picks? And didn't Nate Stanley have 5 passing TD's. I think we will need career performances for some of our guys. But boy, that would be awesome. Also, probably BF's best game planning as an OC so there had to be some divine intervention. LOL.
NorthKCHawk
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Honestly, our LBs are not all that great in coverage. Might as well send them head hunting the QB. That said, I suspect we will give up some big plays. We do not exactly have lock down guys in the secondary.
I still might opt for a bend but don't break D, and hope we can draw some mistakes during a 10 play drive.
Fryowa
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With Indiana's QBs and WRs vs our secondary the only way the Hawks can even begin to contain it is with QB pressure. That's where I was saying Iowa's going to be so much of a different test for them vs an Illinois.
Llewellyn, Hurkett, and Graves are hopefully going to be a problem all afternoon.
SwirlinLingerie
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Unfortunately, I looked and Mendoza has played at Utah, Oregon, Auburn and Florida State. He's been in some pretty rough environments.
I think he'll connect on a few early on. My thought was Iowa's only hope would be to get a lick or two on him early, and combined with the crowd noise he'd maybe start seeing ghosts and lose his patience in the pocket. But he's played in loud stadiums before, and from what I've read he's pretty adept at recognizing blitzes and getting the ball out quickly and accurately.
Damn, I'm starting to think this is a really bad match-up for Iowa.
I think he'll connect on a few early on. My thought was Iowa's only hope would be to get a lick or two on him early, and combined with the crowd noise he'd maybe start seeing ghosts and lose his patience in the pocket. But he's played in loud stadiums before, and from what I've read he's pretty adept at recognizing blitzes and getting the ball out quickly and accurately.
Damn, I'm starting to think this is a really bad match-up for Iowa.
HawkPowerlifter
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He also does a good job with that RPO belly read he passes out of. Very good at it and he gets his head up and seems to read very well. Scares the hell out of me. The issue is we have very average and inexperienced linebackers and our secondary has definitely shown it's not a strength either. Phil has his work cutout for him.
trj
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Penn St.
Oregon
@USC
At the beginning of the season I didn’t put the Indiana game in that tier, but it clearly is. What I saw as a W…now I don’t know, and a gun to my head I’m leaning no.
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AreWeThereYet
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To be honest, I probably first said this as a reaction to the 05 Northwestern or 08 Illinois game, then just kept repeating whenever it seemed appropriate (2017 Northwestern perhaps).
PS: Am impressed that you whipped out an imbedded table for counterargument purposes. Am too lazy to even think of that. Felt obligated to respond.
