No way Paterno survives this if he knew.
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Taken from another site. Sorry I don't have the original link:
Here is an article regarding former Centre County DA Ray Gricar, where the reasons for not pursuing a case in 1998 against Jerry Sandusky are unknown. The reason? Gricar went missing in 2005 and is presumed dead.
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Prosecutor Ray Gricar wasn’t one to be intimidated by high-profile cases.
He didn’t dabble in politics or enjoy limelight.
Gricar, who went missing in 2005 and declared dead in July, was an introverted man who affiliated himself with few and wasn’t easily swayed by others.
“He was a very kind of private but independent guy,” said Bob Buehner, the Montour County district attorney. “He didn’t belong to a lot of organizations. I would say he was fiercely independent.”
That’s actually been one major roadblock for investigators in his missing-persons case: It’s hard to get inside his head.
The state attorney general’s office says Gricar is the one who made the decision not to prosecute Jerry Sandusky in 1998, when two kids reported that Sandusky washed them during a shower.
Gricar was also the county’s top prosecutor when many of the other inappropriate acts were alleged to have happened. But before the allegations brought by a boy in Clinton County in 2009, the 23-page grand jury presentment says police were only ever notified once: in 1998.
According to those who were present during that investigation, Gricar seemed to be the one who made the decision not to prosecute.
We’ll probably never know why.
Gricar disappeared April 15, 2005, after taking a day off work to drive to Lewisburg. His disappearance has been the subject of a lot of speculation.
His laptop hard drive, which was found dumped in the Susquehanna River near where his car was parked in Lewisburg, was too badly damaged by water to be read.
What information on that computer was destroyed is left to conjecture.
A member of law enforcement who was in the room with Gricar when police presented him with the 1998 allegations against Sandusky said Gricar led the investigation.
He tried to get information by having officers hide in the home of one of the victims as the mother confronted Sandusky.
But that source said he isn’t sure how Gricar came to his final decision not to prosecute the case.
Jerry Lauro, the investigator for the state Department of Welfare is mentioned in the grand-jury presentment as having interviewed Sandusky, along with now-retired Penn State police Officer Ron Schreffler.
The presentment says Sandusky admitted to showering naked with the victim and admitted it was wrong.
“I had no decision-making authority or power in any of these cases,” Lauro said, when contacted Saturday. “They are left up to the district attorney to decide. In all of the hundreds of cases that I ran, I never let anyone influence me.”
Schreffler declined to comment.
Gricar pursued several controversial football player cases, the prosecutions of students involved in the 2001 downtown State College riot.
Steve Sloane, an assistant prosecutor in his office, handled most of those cases, and is known as one of Gricar’s closest work confidants.
“He wasn’t media savvy,” Sloane said. “He didn’t read local papers and follow local gossip. It wouldn’t have mattered if it was Joe Paterno or a 10-repeat felon. He would treat them the same way if they were legit suspected of committing crimes.”
But he wasn’t a rash prosecutor, either, Buehner said.
“I would say this about Ray: He would be extremely cautious in proceeding because he wanted to make sure that there would be a reasonable likelihood of conviction. You don’t want to go after someone high profile unless you have a compelling case.”
There’s no indication that Gricar was notified in 2002, when a graduate assistant reported to head coach Joe Paterno that he witnessed Sandusky and a young boy engaged in a sex act in the shower of the Lasch Building the day before Spring Break.
That’s the case in which the grand-jury panel found that Athletic Director Tim Curley and top executive Gary Schultz should have reported to police, but didn’t, according to the indictment from the state attorney general.
Under law, certain educational leaders are required to report possible sex abuse.
By then, however, the 1998 report that was labeled “unfounded” because Gricar decided not to press charges, and would have been expunged. State law requires Children and Youth Services to delete all notes after one year and four months.
First Assistant District Attorney Mark Smith, who is still with that office, took over Gricar’s position for eight months following the disappearance until an election was held. Smith said he doesn’t recall anything being brought to his attention about allegations against Sandusky.
The next district attorney to be elected in Centre County was Michael Madeira, and there’s no indication he knew about the older reports, either.
He is the prosecutor who referred the most recent case ? in Clinton County ? to the attorney general soon after it was reported early in 2009. Madeira gave the case up, citing a conflict of interest.
By the time his successor, current District Attorney Stacy Parks Miller, took office, the attorney general’s office had been working the case for an entire year and a grand jury already was hearing testimony.
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Here is an article regarding former Centre County DA Ray Gricar, where the reasons for not pursuing a case in 1998 against Jerry Sandusky are unknown. The reason? Gricar went missing in 2005 and is presumed dead.
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Prosecutor Ray Gricar wasn’t one to be intimidated by high-profile cases.
He didn’t dabble in politics or enjoy limelight.
Gricar, who went missing in 2005 and declared dead in July, was an introverted man who affiliated himself with few and wasn’t easily swayed by others.
“He was a very kind of private but independent guy,” said Bob Buehner, the Montour County district attorney. “He didn’t belong to a lot of organizations. I would say he was fiercely independent.”
That’s actually been one major roadblock for investigators in his missing-persons case: It’s hard to get inside his head.
The state attorney general’s office says Gricar is the one who made the decision not to prosecute Jerry Sandusky in 1998, when two kids reported that Sandusky washed them during a shower.
Gricar was also the county’s top prosecutor when many of the other inappropriate acts were alleged to have happened. But before the allegations brought by a boy in Clinton County in 2009, the 23-page grand jury presentment says police were only ever notified once: in 1998.
According to those who were present during that investigation, Gricar seemed to be the one who made the decision not to prosecute.
We’ll probably never know why.
Gricar disappeared April 15, 2005, after taking a day off work to drive to Lewisburg. His disappearance has been the subject of a lot of speculation.
His laptop hard drive, which was found dumped in the Susquehanna River near where his car was parked in Lewisburg, was too badly damaged by water to be read.
What information on that computer was destroyed is left to conjecture.
A member of law enforcement who was in the room with Gricar when police presented him with the 1998 allegations against Sandusky said Gricar led the investigation.
He tried to get information by having officers hide in the home of one of the victims as the mother confronted Sandusky.
But that source said he isn’t sure how Gricar came to his final decision not to prosecute the case.
Jerry Lauro, the investigator for the state Department of Welfare is mentioned in the grand-jury presentment as having interviewed Sandusky, along with now-retired Penn State police Officer Ron Schreffler.
The presentment says Sandusky admitted to showering naked with the victim and admitted it was wrong.
“I had no decision-making authority or power in any of these cases,” Lauro said, when contacted Saturday. “They are left up to the district attorney to decide. In all of the hundreds of cases that I ran, I never let anyone influence me.”
Schreffler declined to comment.
Gricar pursued several controversial football player cases, the prosecutions of students involved in the 2001 downtown State College riot.
Steve Sloane, an assistant prosecutor in his office, handled most of those cases, and is known as one of Gricar’s closest work confidants.
“He wasn’t media savvy,” Sloane said. “He didn’t read local papers and follow local gossip. It wouldn’t have mattered if it was Joe Paterno or a 10-repeat felon. He would treat them the same way if they were legit suspected of committing crimes.”
But he wasn’t a rash prosecutor, either, Buehner said.
“I would say this about Ray: He would be extremely cautious in proceeding because he wanted to make sure that there would be a reasonable likelihood of conviction. You don’t want to go after someone high profile unless you have a compelling case.”
There’s no indication that Gricar was notified in 2002, when a graduate assistant reported to head coach Joe Paterno that he witnessed Sandusky and a young boy engaged in a sex act in the shower of the Lasch Building the day before Spring Break.
That’s the case in which the grand-jury panel found that Athletic Director Tim Curley and top executive Gary Schultz should have reported to police, but didn’t, according to the indictment from the state attorney general.
Under law, certain educational leaders are required to report possible sex abuse.
By then, however, the 1998 report that was labeled “unfounded” because Gricar decided not to press charges, and would have been expunged. State law requires Children and Youth Services to delete all notes after one year and four months.
First Assistant District Attorney Mark Smith, who is still with that office, took over Gricar’s position for eight months following the disappearance until an election was held. Smith said he doesn’t recall anything being brought to his attention about allegations against Sandusky.
The next district attorney to be elected in Centre County was Michael Madeira, and there’s no indication he knew about the older reports, either.
He is the prosecutor who referred the most recent case ? in Clinton County ? to the attorney general soon after it was reported early in 2009. Madeira gave the case up, citing a conflict of interest.
By the time his successor, current District Attorney Stacy Parks Miller, took office, the attorney general’s office had been working the case for an entire year and a grand jury already was hearing testimony.
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tweeterhawk
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IOWuh, where'd this story appear?
glidinghawk
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I just read a newspaper story from 1999 that Sandusky adopted six children, three of them troubled foster kids. God knows what happened to them. One of Sandusky's sons also taught at Penn State, but I don't know if he's still there.
hawkeyebob62
Well-Known Member
Enough with Iran/Contra, already. There are no similarities
glidinghawk
Well-Known Member
Gricar also refused to bring charges against Scott Paxson, a former Penn St player who was charged with felony sexual assault. Madiera later decided to prosecute him, but a judge dismissed the case. The attorney for Paxson was Joe Amendola, who is now representing Sandusky.
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VintageHawkeye
Guest
Seriously, this is like something out of a freaking mystery novel. How thick can this plot get?!?
latrans
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EddyP
Well-Known Member
From the timeline post:
2005 or 2006 -- Sandusky allegedly befriends another Second-Mile participant whose allegations would form the foundation of the multi-year grand jury investigation.
When did Gricar go missing again?(sinister horror movie music playing in background)
2005 or 2006 -- Sandusky allegedly befriends another Second-Mile participant whose allegations would form the foundation of the multi-year grand jury investigation.
When did Gricar go missing again?(sinister horror movie music playing in background)
EddyP
Well-Known Member
Not soon enough.
ICHawk24
Well-Known Member
That is a possible outcome.
HawkeyeMike23
Banned
I hope he doesn't do this. I hear child molesters are real popular in prison, I hope he gets to enjoy a long stay there.
Igothawked
Well-Known Member
I hope this doesn't happen either, but am very concerned that he might off himself. I for one, am very surprised they let him out on a $100k bail. That to me just doesn't seem right given the amount of allegations and charges he is facing.
I think he should have been denied bail and put on suicide watch in the county jail until trial.
HawkeyeMike23
Banned
It's really too bad Joe Pa won't be getting jail time too. At least this should ruin his legacy, what a ******* fraud he is, he should already be fired.
clicheusername3
Banned
Good post, I had the exact same thought earlier. But he's obviously a coward so I don't think he has it in him. I almost have to think that in his brain, he does not think that he did anything wrong and he will be exonerated.
HawkeyeShane
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I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to suck a shotgun shell through a steel straw, but as has been said already, I hope he doesn't take that coward's way out.
