Nice article on Marshal Yanda

Damn my memory is getting short.
Says the guy who remembers that the radio announcer who was supposed to call the Hawks football game on Nov 14, 1961 couldn’t make it to the booth because it was raining that morning and his mother fell down a flight of stairs and that ended up being Iowa’s only win of the year.

You’re the Cliff Calvin of this board and I love you for it.
 
Says the guy who remembers that the radio announcer who was supposed to call the Hawks football game on Nov 14, 1961 couldn’t make it to the booth because it was raining that morning and his mother fell down a flight of stairs and that ended up being Iowa’s only win of the year.

You’re the Cliff Calvin of this board and I love you for it.

I was thinking the exact same thing. He remembers everything and he whiffed on some random Bob Sanders shit it just kinda threw me for a minute.
 
I was thinking the exact same thing. He remembers everything and he whiffed on some random Bob Sanders shit it just kinda threw me for a minute.
I whiff a lot on this board.

It's just fun to get discussions going.

As for the Clavin comp I do have a job somewhat similar to his.

I do not live with my mother however, and I would never blow a $22,000 lead on Jeopardy.
 
Says the guy who remembers that the radio announcer who was supposed to call the Hawks football game on Nov 14, 1961 couldn’t make it to the booth because it was raining that morning and his mother fell down a flight of stairs and that ended up being Iowa’s only win of the year.

You’re the Cliff Calvin of this board and I love you for it.
You know Jim Zabel and Bob Brooks were on the job that day.

Ron Gonder would have just been getting started in the business. Dolph would have been in high school. Not sure if Al Marshall, who coached at Cascade for about 615 years, would have been a basketball teammate of his or not.
 
You know Jim Zabel and Bob Brooks were on the job that day.

Ron Gonder would have just been getting started in the business. Dolph would have been in high school. Not sure if Al Marshall, who coached at Cascade for about 615 years, would have been a basketball teammate of his or not.
There’s the guy we know.
 
Yep their hand tools are still made in the US (the Algona plant makes their tool boxes and cabinets). Which is why this 10 piece wrench set is $640.00. And that price is real. Snap-On doesn’t do sales, promos to anyone other than schools/businesses, and they enforce their MAP pricing to the death.

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$640 for a 10 combination wrench set. Nothing special about them, just plain old chrome wrenches. Gearwrench is a tool company out of Taiwan that makes some fabulous, high quality stuff and you can get the same set in just about any store for $30 and a NQA warranty. I know plenty of mechanics who earn livings with their stuff and they’re not indentured slaves to the Snap On truck guy. The key is to avoid China. Taiwan, Japan, and Germany are the ones you want to look for. Those guys have their shit together.

There are no common wrenches like that worth $640.00. What is Snap-On thinking trying to get away with that. How are they still in business. That's the price of a moderate tool box for krists sakes. I still have $27.00 socket sets from True Value that I bought as a young teen and they work fine.
 
There are no common wrenches like that worth $640.00. What is Snap-On thinking trying to get away with that. How are they still in business. That's the price of a moderate tool box for krists sakes. I still have $27.00 socket sets from True Value that I bought as a young teen and they work fine.
They definitely are worth $640 because people buy them like they're going out of style. You think that's bad, check this out my friend. And these cabinets sell like hotcakes.

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Here's how this racket works...

A classmate of mine is the Snap-On driver in my area. He bought the franchise reasonably from a guy who was retiring and looking to sell. He got a good deal on the truck (and has since bought a newer one). He had to pay Snap-On corporate $35,000 to get started with the franchise and that also backed up his line of credit for product.

Line mechanics are a strange bunch. Most of them make between $30K-40K but think nothing about being in debt up to their eyeballs to a tool truck. It's a combination of being an idiot and having a big dick swinging contest with your coworkers, because nobody wants to be the young guy in the shop with any tools that don't say Snap-On, MAC, or Cornwell. And because of that, the tool truck guys feed like sharks.

My buddy and I have talked about this a lot because it fascinates me how fucking stupid people are. He'll take anyone on credit. And I mean anyone. He does 19% APR as a revolving line of credit with minimum payments of $150 a month. The more shit you buy off the truck the better because he just keeps raking in those $150 payments as cash flow. Guys using him for credit love it because they get their $16,000 toolbox but no bank will give you a $16,000 loan for a tool box. A lot of those guys either don't have credit or collateral anyway. Repo's do happen, but he says they're easy because his policy is that if guy refuses or makes a repo tough on him, he cuts off the entire shop until he's either got the merch back or the money. If you're a shop owner the LAST thing you want is to get shut off by a tool dealer. Your guys are gonna hate it, and good luck hiring new ones. He told me he's only done that a couple times, and the money/tools show up in a hurry. Usually peer pressure does the trick. He also can normally get shop owners to meet him after hours to pick up big items so he doesn't even have to deal with the dead-beat in person. Snap-On used styuff sells damn near as expensive as new so there's nmo trouble selling the repo'ed stuff.

Basically it's one big "robbing Peter to pay Paul" operation. He's got tons of guys out there making $150 to $300 payments ad nauseum, and all he has to do is make his credit payment to Snap-On--the rest is fuel, insurance, and maintenance on the truck. I mean who gives a shit what or how much of it you sell as long as the minions keep writing you checks? It's all based on float and cash flow.

He doesn't make millions, but he's a single guy with no kids and I'd say he does way above average. It's really a matter of luck to get into a good deal like this otherwise everyone would be doing it. Someone in your area has to be looking to get out, you have to have a buttload of cash to get started, and your area has to be a money-maker with lots of decent shops. And the shops have to be just the right mix of guys who aren't so poor they can't buy anything but not wealthy enough that they pay cash for everything.
 
I whiff a lot on this board.

It's just fun to get discussions going.

As for the Clavin comp I do have a job somewhat similar to his.

I do not live with my mother however, and I would never blow a $22,000 lead on Jeopardy.
Technically though, I think he won. Those three people had never been in his kitchen.
 
They definitely are worth $640 because people buy them like they're going out of style. You think that's bad, check this out my friend. And these cabinets sell like hotcakes.

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Here's how this racket works...

A classmate of mine is the Snap-On driver in my area. He bought the franchise reasonably from a guy who was retiring and looking to sell. He got a good deal on the truck (and has since bought a newer one). He had to pay Snap-On corporate $35,000 to get started with the franchise and that also backed up his line of credit for product.

Line mechanics are a strange bunch. Most of them make between $30K-40K but think nothing about being in debt up to their eyeballs to a tool truck. It's a combination of being an idiot and having a big dick swinging contest with your coworkers, because nobody wants to be the young guy in the shop with any tools that don't say Snap-On, MAC, or Cornwell. And because of that, the tool truck guys feed like sharks.

My buddy and I have talked about this a lot because it fascinates me how fucking stupid people are. He'll take anyone on credit. And I mean anyone. He does 19% APR as a revolving line of credit with minimum payments of $150 a month. The more shit you buy off the truck the better because he just keeps raking in those $150 payments as cash flow. Guys using him for credit love it because they get their $16,000 toolbox but no bank will give you a $16,000 loan for a tool box. A lot of those guys either don't have credit or collateral anyway. Repo's do happen, but he says they're easy because his policy is that if guy refuses or makes a repo tough on him, he cuts off the entire shop until he's either got the merch back or the money. If you're a shop owner the LAST thing you want is to get shut off by a tool dealer. Your guys are gonna hate it, and good luck hiring new ones. He told me he's only done that a couple times, and the money/tools show up in a hurry. Usually peer pressure does the trick. He also can normally get shop owners to meet him after hours to pick up big items so he doesn't even have to deal with the dead-beat in person. Snap-On used styuff sells damn near as expensive as new so there's nmo trouble selling the repo'ed stuff.

Basically it's one big "robbing Peter to pay Paul" operation. He's got tons of guys out there making $150 to $300 payments ad nauseum, and all he has to do is make his credit payment to Snap-On--the rest is fuel, insurance, and maintenance on the truck. I mean who gives a shit what or how much of it you sell as long as the minions keep writing you checks? It's all based on float and cash flow.

He doesn't make millions, but he's a single guy with no kids and I'd say he does way above average. It's really a matter of luck to get into a good deal like this otherwise everyone would be doing it. Someone in your area has to be looking to get out, you have to have a buttload of cash to get started, and your area has to be a money-maker with lots of decent shops. And the shops have to be just the right mix of guys who aren't so poor they can't buy anything but not wealthy enough that they pay cash for everything.

Freaking interesting. It's like a cult following, similar to people wanting I-phone and I-pad products. I always knew Snap-on was outrageous but seems to have gotten even more outrageous over the years. $16,000 for a tool chest. Really? I'd get my US General at Harbor Freight and be done with it. Is Matco still around? I always knew about Snap-on and MAC growing up. I can't remember the last time I saw a Snap-on truck on the road. Kind of like the Swan's truck. Don't see too many of them either. I still can't believe people are paying the prices for that stuff.
 
Freaking interesting. It's like a cult following, similar to people wanting I-phone and I-pad products. I always knew Snap-on was outrageous but seems to have gotten even more outrageous over the years. $16,000 for a tool chest. Really? I'd get my US General at Harbor Freight and be done with it. Is Matco still around? I always knew about Snap-on and MAC growing up. I can't remember the last time I saw a Snap-on truck on the road. Kind of like the Swan's truck. Don't see too many of them either. I still can't believe people are paying the prices for that stuff.
Definitely paying 90% for the name. I had some snap ring pliers from Snap-On that broke and it was hell getting warranty replacement. Because they're franchises any warranty claims for hand tools come out of their bottom line. It's too much hassle to deal with Snap-On corporate so dealers just eat it usually, and that's why their drivers are total dickheads about replacement.

Snap-On, Cornwell, Mac, and Matco are still around, SO and Mac are the only two I ever see in my area. The Cornwell guy used to be based out of Sheldon but he was older than god and retired without selling it to anyone else. He did a lot of business but I'd imagine it's hard finding a young guy to front the cash to buy it when he'd have to compete with SO.
 
I presume Snap-On also has a massive government gravy train. There are all sorts of "Buy American" mandates in government contracting, particularly around defense related items, so that could be a big chunk of their business as well.
 

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