New Tailgating Rules: Too Strict or About Time?

2boys said:
News flash...not everyone who takes customers to games uses the skybox. I'm just seeing this as an opportunity for guys like Norwalk to have a financial way out of this communist policy. If you don't like the policy, don't go to the games and sell me your seats....I need 2 more!
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There is always a way around the rules so I think I'll keep my tickets for now. But I will go ahead and file your suggestion just in case I somehow get a severe case of "******* retarded" in which case I will give you a jingle.
 
2boys said:
News flash...not everyone who takes customers to games uses the skybox. I'm just seeing this as an opportunity for guys like Norwalk to have a financial way out of this communist policy. If you don't like the policy, don't go to the games and sell me your seats....I need 2 more!
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Selling you tickets defeats the "democratic" pupose of making a statement.

Kinda be like everyone who didn't ride buses in the Montgomery bus boycott giving their fare to someone who would.
 
Stepping up enforcement of these laws is good. It's not going to affect most people. The doomsdayers here need to relax a bit.
 
Ozhawk said:
The DUI awareness will have no effect on people. If idiots want to get behind the wheel of their car they will. To get the change they want there will have to be a change in the culture of tailgating. That change will not happen by setting up checkpoints along the road. People who get behind the wheel while drunk are selfish human being who could care less about the rest of us they also are not going to be deterred by checkpoint...in fact they will likely forget about the "warning" in their drunken stupor.
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super dumb!
 
JonDMiller said:
UI adds new tailgating rules | press-citizen.com | Iowa City Press Citizen

What do you think?

It looks like the main things are:

-DUI checkpoints, saying it won't slow down an already slow exiting process
-Limits post game tailgating to one hour in University lots & Hospital ramps
-No carrying open containers of alcohol from lot to lot, or walking around
-Increase in enforcement of public urination and the like

I don't tailgate, and I am not on the road after the games amongst people that perhaps have had too much to drink. Most of my friends set a designated driver each week and rotate it...

We have all seen quite a few people with a 12 pack in one hand, an open drink in another, walking from tailgate spot to tailgate spot, as they have several friends...sounds like even if they were carrying a closed cooler, with an open beer, they could get a ticket.

What do you think about this?
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THe DUI is the main changer, they won't be able to get everyone out of the lots in an hour due to traffic being stopped. How do they determine who to stop? Do they assume all traffic hitting the coralville exit East are coming from the game? Pretty strange. I guess they just make you blow and if you are fine then you keep moving on? What happened to probable cause? Some issues here.

I like the fact they are forcing people to make a decision to act responsibly. I'm just not sure it will work as planned. Also, I would think all should now be aware of how many beers they can drink for their weight and how long it takes to not test over legal limits. IE: 200 Lb man drinks eight 12 oz beers at 3.2% alcohol, then a beer bong, and one shot of 80 proof liquor. Feeling really good going into the game. 3 hour plus game includes 2 trips to bathroom, 2 brats...maybe a walking taco inside kinnick. a 32 oz soft drink. and one last trip to bathroom in tree line at back of finkbine. No more partying occurs. WIll this person blow a legal limit? Yes or No.

Is this pretty common for one that tail gates over a 3-5 hour tailgate period?
 
For me the only thing I agree with in the new rules is the DUI checkpoints. Although I don't understand how they won't impede the traffic after the game.

As people have speculated in this and previous threads it seems the University and ICCC won't be happy until the "commoners" are done away with, and the only ones left are the Donors. Whether you like it or not part of the appeal of Iowa Football is the atmosphere around Kinnick, and on game days that atmosphere includes alcohol. Unfortunately alcohol and responsibility aren't two things that typically go together. However, that's no reason for The University and ICCC to punish the 90 - 95% of people that are doing it right. Enforce the laws as they are, don't create more bureaucracy.

I should be able to carry a beer to the stadium if I wish or one on the street as I move from tailgate to tailgate. I may carry an empty beer can this year just to test how they are going to enforce the new open container policy.
 
Nothing positive ever comes from in effect punishing the masses for the actions of the few. That happens in the military as almost standard operating procedure and it pisses people off and kills morale. As to the tailgating they could do what they can to keep drunks from getting on the road after the games and cutting down on the underage drinking without going to the extreme and degrading the atmosphere for everyone.

We're going to focus on the knuckleheads," Barta said. "We're going to focus on the behaviors that are unsafe." The more I read about these new regulations the more they seem out of sync with the stated intent. A bigger agenda seems in play here beyond the way they have tried to frame this.
 
I'm ok with taming the super drunk crowd down (now that I'm out the U anyways) but I think this hurts those of us who know how to do it the right way.

My 2-3 beers as I walk from car to tailgate to Kinnick are a bigger deal then the full fledged beer pong, beer bong underage crowd?

Under this mew rule, as long as they stay at one tailgate they are fine while I could have issues right?
 
The problem with these rules (as some have mentioned) is that it is just another right and privilege taken away. Every year for the past 5 years or so a new rule/law goes into effect or gets enforced that makes tailgating more and more difficult to enjoy. These rules in and of themselves are not deal breakers, but they are getting closer to becoming deal breakers. If they do much more to strip away the tailgating experience some will stop tailgating. I think the U doesn't realize the downward spiral in revenue they could be creating here. I have a concern with the DUI checkpoints, because I don't have anyway to know what my blood alchohol level is after the game. I usually drink 6-10 beers in the morning and stop a good hour before the game. Then a 3+ hour game and drive home. So I usually feel completely sober after the game, but what if my level is still .081? That's my concern. I guess that's my problem to deal with, but I wish there was an easier way to know, because I would not drive until I fell below .08.
 
bud2380 said:
The problem with these rules (as some have mentioned) is that it is just another right and privilege taken away. Every year for the past 5 years or so a new rule/law goes into effect or gets enforced that makes tailgating more and more difficult to enjoy. These rules in and of themselves are not deal breakers, but they are getting closer to becoming deal breakers. If they do much more to strip away the tailgating experience some will stop tailgating. I think the U doesn't realize the downward spiral in revenue they could be creating here. I have a concern with the DUI checkpoints, because I don't have anyway to know what my blood alchohol level is after the game. I usually drink 6-10 beers in the morning and stop a good hour before the game. Then a 3+ hour game and drive home. So I usually feel completely sober after the game, but what if my level is still .081? That's my concern. I guess that's my problem to deal with, but I wish there was an easier way to know, because I would not drive until I fell below .08.
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I would say if you started drinking and 7 A.M. and left at 2 P.M. for an eleven o clock game. You would have 7 hours to deal with. At 6 beers I'd bet you would be OK but 10 you might be getting close. They got BAC calculators online. Yes they are not the gospel and will not give you a exact reading but it will give you at least an estimate. Here is one of them.

http://www.ladrunkdrivinglawyer.com/bac_calculator.htmlhttp://www.bloodalcoholcalculator.org/

Just wanted to add today I got my parking pass today. Just wanted to interject that good news for me as the drama of all this is getting tiresome on both sides of the issue.
 
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