Name that Iowa Freshman Point Guard

[PCHawk]

And many people said CW was going to the clear starter this year so they better never speak higher of Bohannon than him. Thanks for proving my point by ingoring my question that you agree with me on Bohannon's upside. I don't think our thoughts are that far off on basketball, you seem to be one of the smarter ones on here in terms of knowing what you're talking about. Kirk's recruiting philosophy is just something we will never agree on though haha

This it the post I should have quoted.

 

[deanvogs]

I was referring to twins saying you guys have similar thoughts. I should have quoted his post. That ruined my joke.

You were absolutely on fire in IowaHocks23 thread.....so you are granted a pass on botching this one.

 

[InGoodCo]

I am only doing to him with Moss what he does to the board with Jordan. He claims that since 1 or 2 people said we wouldn't see much drop off at PG, he is then COMPELLED to bash Jordan in every possible thread. Well I will just remind him that nobody really values his opinion on Jordan because he clearly doesn't know basketball as he called Moss was a Clear miss.

turn about's fair play, I know he'll eat crow on Jordan... he's going to start at Iowa for 4 seasons.

 

[Hawk5656]

turn about's fair play, I know he'll eat crow on Jordan... he's going to start at Iowa for 4 seasons.

He might not be productive for 4 seasons though. If we could have recruited a better PG he'd be coming off the bench which is why I think he's been struggling this year. I really think he could be averaging 6-8 ppg while shooting over 40% from 3 if he was getting open looks created by a good PG

 

[PCHawk]

You were absolutely on fire in IowaHocks23 thread.....so you are granted a pass on botching this one.

Ha thanks. And if it's any consolation, I don't think you and twins are even close on your basketball thoughts.

 

[InGoodCo]

He might not be productive for 4 seasons though. If we could have recruited a better PG he'd be coming off the bench which is why I think he's been struggling this year. I really think he could be averaging 6-8 ppg while shooting over 40% from 3 if he was getting open looks created by a good PG

now that he's getting this early experience, even by the off chance that Fran gets a top flight PG or a transfer or someone with stars that you're in love with, I doubt he would beat him out. He's got his hooks in that spot now, it's gonna be damn near impossible to take it from him.

 

[deanvogs]

turn about's fair play, I know he'll eat crow on Jordan... he's going to start at Iowa for 4 seasons.

He won't ever eat crow on Jordan, never. If Jordan was averaging 12 PPG with 5 APG, he would just claim is defense is terrible and he was correct that Jordan sucks.

 

[Hawk5656]

now that he's getting this early experience, even by the off chance that Fran gets a top flight PG or a transfer or someone with stars that you're in love with, I doubt he would beat him out. He's got his hooks in that spot now, it's gonna be damn near impossible to take it from him.

Couldn't disagree with you more on this one. You just said he's struggled this year and now you said he couldn't lose that spot if Fran recruits over him? Color me confused

 

[Hawk5656]

He won't ever eat crow on Jordan, never. If Jordan was averaging 12 PPG with 5 APG, he would just claim is defense is terrible and he was correct that Jordan sucks.

Not true at all. I want to eat crow on him like I had to on Moss

 

[InGoodCo]

Couldn't disagree with you more on this one. You just said he's struggled this year and now you said he couldn't lose that spot if Fran recruits over him? Color me confused

I won't speak for others, but I thought he'd struggle because he's a frosh. Learning the game at the next level. Getting experience and comfortable with knowing the offense. Being a teenage kid that's going to school and living on his own for the first time ever. This season will give him a leg up on just about any PG Fran will recruit over the next 3 seasons.

 

[Hawk5656]

I won't speak for others, but I thought he'd struggle because he's a frosh. Learning the game at the next level. Getting experience and comfortable with knowing the offense. Being a teenage kid that's going to school and living on his own for the first time ever. This season will give him a leg up on just about any PG Fran will recruit over the next 3 seasons.

If Fran brought in a grad transfer or a big PG recruit I would assume Bohannon's role would be coming off the bench. Fran's going to play his most productive players at each position which is why he's changed the lineup so much this year

 

[deanvogs]

I won't speak for others, but I thought he'd struggle because he's a frosh. Learning the game at the next level. Getting experience and comfortable with knowing the offense. Being a teenage kid that's going to school and living on his own for the first time ever. This season will give him a leg up on just about any PG Fran will recruit over the next 3 seasons.

This is spot on, Most Fr. come in and struggle. Here are the 4* PG, and what they are doing so far this year. I left a couple off the list that can't get more than 10-15 MPG,


Cassius Winston 7.2 PPG 5.9 APG 2.4 TO/G

Alterique Gilbert 10.3 PPG 2.0 APG 1.3 TO/G

Tony Carr 11.5 PPG 3.7 APG 2.5 TO/G

Payton Pritchard 7.8 PPG 3.8 APG 1.6 TO/G

Markell Johnson 4.1 PPG 2.3 APG 1 TO/G

Anthony Cowan 10.4 PPG 3.8 APG 2.4 TO/G

Xavier Simpson 1.5 PPG 1.3 APG .7 TO/G

Jaylen Fisher 9.6 PPG 4.4 APG 3.1 TO/G

Markus Howard 11.6 PPG 2.1 APG 1.6 TO/G

Quentin Goodin 3.3 PPG 2.0 APG 1.5 TO/G

Myles Powell 10.6 PPG .7 APG 1.3 TO/G

Jared Harper 13.7 PPG 3.1 APG 1.4 TO/G

Lamar Peters 9.8 PPG 2.8 APG 1.4 TO/G

Carsen Edwards 10.4 PPG 1.9 APG 1.9 TO/G


Yet we are supposed to say that Jordan is "really struggling" yet when you compare him to the top PG kids and see how they are doing, he is right in the mix at 8.8 PPG 4.8 APG 2.3 TO/G and 11.2 PER

Keep in mind these are 4* kids, and Jordan would be 10th on this list in scoring, and 2nd in assist. Like I said I left off I think 2 or 3 others who weren't getting minutes, so he would be above them as well.

 

[Hawk5656]

This is spot on, Most Fr. come in and struggle. Here are the 4* PG, and what they are doing so far this year. I left a couple off the list that can't get more than 10-15 MPG,


Cassius Winston 7.2 PPG 5.9 APG 2.4 TO/G

Alterique Gilbert 10.3 PPG 2.0 APG 1.3 TO/G

Tony Carr 11.5 PPG 3.7 APG 2.5 TO/G

Payton Pritchard 7.8 PPG 3.8 APG 1.6 TO/G

Markell Johnson 4.1 PPG 2.3 APG 1 TO/G

Anthony Cowan 10.4 PPG 3.8 APG 2.4 TO/G

Xavier Simpson 1.5 PPG 1.3 APG .7 TO/G

Jaylen Fisher 9.6 PPG 4.4 APG 3.1 TO/G

Markus Howard 11.6 PPG 2.1 APG 1.6 TO/G

Quentin Goodin 3.3 PPG 2.0 APG 1.5 TO/G

Myles Powell 10.6 PPG .7 APG 1.3 TO/G

Jared Harper 13.7 PPG 3.1 APG 1.4 TO/G

Lamar Peters 9.8 PPG 2.8 APG 1.4 TO/G

Carsen Edwards 10.4 PPG 1.9 APG 1.9 TO/G


Yet we are supposed to say that Jordan is "really struggling" yet when you compare him to the top PG kids and see how they are doing, he is right in the mix at 8.8 PPG 4.8 APG 2.3 TO/G and 11.2 PER

Keep in mind these are 4* kids, and Jordan would be 10th on this list in scoring, and 2nd in assist. Like I said I left off I think 2 or 3 others who weren't getting minutes, so he would be above them as well.

Yes all of those players walked into the same situation Jordan got where he's really the only PG on that roster. Geez

 

[NikeHawk21]

This is spot on, Most Fr. come in and struggle. Here are the 4* PG, and what they are doing so far this year. I left a couple off the list that can't get more than 10-15 MPG,


Cassius Winston 7.2 PPG 5.9 APG 2.4 TO/G

Alterique Gilbert 10.3 PPG 2.0 APG 1.3 TO/G

Tony Carr 11.5 PPG 3.7 APG 2.5 TO/G

Payton Pritchard 7.8 PPG 3.8 APG 1.6 TO/G

Markell Johnson 4.1 PPG 2.3 APG 1 TO/G

Anthony Cowan 10.4 PPG 3.8 APG 2.4 TO/G

Xavier Simpson 1.5 PPG 1.3 APG .7 TO/G

Jaylen Fisher 9.6 PPG 4.4 APG 3.1 TO/G

Markus Howard 11.6 PPG 2.1 APG 1.6 TO/G

Quentin Goodin 3.3 PPG 2.0 APG 1.5 TO/G

Myles Powell 10.6 PPG .7 APG 1.3 TO/G

Jared Harper 13.7 PPG 3.1 APG 1.4 TO/G

Lamar Peters 9.8 PPG 2.8 APG 1.4 TO/G

Carsen Edwards 10.4 PPG 1.9 APG 1.9 TO/G


Yet we are supposed to say that Jordan is "really struggling" yet when you compare him to the top PG kids and see how they are doing, he is right in the mix at 8.8 PPG 4.8 APG 2.3 TO/G and 11.2 PER

Keep in mind these are 4* kids, and Jordan would be 10th on this list in scoring, and 2nd in assist. Like I said I left off I think 2 or 3 others who weren't getting minutes, so he would be above them as well.

Well done Dean. Looks like Jordan is holding his own with all those 4*s Iowa "needed" in this class.

 

[Hawk5656]

Well done Dean. Looks like Jordan is holding his own with all those 4*s Iowa "needed" in this class.

Haha you didn't just fall for that did you?

 

[Stanzi]

Not true at all. I want to eat crow on him like I had to on Moss

Oh bullshit, that's literally the last thing you want to do. You've made that abundantly clear.

 

[NikeHawk21]

Haha you didn't just fall for that did you?

Fall for what? I starting making a similar list myself but just got bored. You were so enamored by recruiting rankings it's funny to see that not every 4* PG is a instant impact program changing recruit like you've somehow dreamed up in your head.

 

[deanvogs]

Fall for what? I starting making a similar list myself but just got bored. You were so enamored by recruiting rankings it's funny to see that not every 4* PG is a instant impact program changing recruit like you've somehow dreamed up in your head.

Fr. struggling is pretty much understood by anyone who follows basketball. It is a point most of us understand, but it doesn't fit with Twins troll, so he will pretend that all Fr. should step in and be stars from day 1.

Coming into the year, I was thinking that Jordan would be a 20 MPG player who might average about 4 PPG and 2 APG, kind of like a Devyn Marble Fr. year. I mean I know Twins doesn't remember Devyn his Fr. year, probably only saw him play vs his Clones, but Devyn really struggled his Fr. year. He had a 92 offensive rating, had a TS% of .43 and a eFG% of .41, he couldn't hit a 3 at all, and shot FT even at below 60% clip. In conference play it was even worse. He had a 81 offensive rating with a TS% .38 and a eFG% .37

 

[Hawk5656]

Fall for what? I starting making a similar list myself but just got bored. You were so enamored by recruiting rankings it's funny to see that not every 4* PG is a instant impact program changing recruit like you've somehow dreamed up in your head.

How many of those players are the only PG on the roster? What are their minutes per game? What about their FG %? You think Bohannon would be playing as much at Oregon as Pritchard is? You falling for all of that is not surprising

 

[Hawk5656]

Fr. struggling is pretty much understood by anyone who follows basketball. It is a point most of us understand, but it doesn't fit with Twins troll, so he will pretend that all Fr. should step in and be stars from day 1.

Coming into the year, I was thinking that Jordan would be a 20 MPG player who might average about 4 PPG and 2 APG, kind of like a Devyn Marble Fr. year. I mean I know Twins doesn't remember Devyn his Fr. year, probably only saw him play vs his Clones, but Devyn really struggled his Fr. year. He had a 92 offensive rating, had a TS% of .43 and a eFG% of .41, he couldn't hit a 3 at all, and shot FT even at below 60% clip. In conference play it was even worse. He had a 81 offensive rating with a TS% .38 and a eFG% .37

At least you admit Jordan is struggling this year