So if you thought it would be a big fall off and I thought it would be about the same, I'm actually closer to being right than you. Pretty dumb for twins to attack the guy who predicted the point guard production the closest.
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Name that Iowa Freshman Point Guard
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So if you thought it would be a big fall off and I thought it would be about the same, I'm actually closer to being right than you. Pretty dumb for twins to attack the guy who predicted the point guard production the closest.
I didn't say we would be better. I said it won't be hard to replace his production. Just like it'd not hard to replace Woody and AC. What killed us is replacing Uthoff. If our starting lineup was Cook, Bohannon, Moss, Jok, and Uthoff, we would be better than last year. We would probably have 2 losses right now and be ranked in the top 10.
You are crazy. You are saying it's not hard to replace three of our better defenders? That lineup would be much worse than last year
I'll play. I believe he'll get better on defense, get better at reading defense, and continue to be a good 3 point shooter and very good at the free throw line. In summary, he has the skillset to improve.
I don't give 2 shites what you were told in speculation prior to the season. It's irrelevant now.
When analysts and most commentators praise the kid, it confirms my opinion. Literally noone confirms yours.
He's a great free throw shooter but he's only shooting 35% from 3
NikeHawk21
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So what if 2 or 5 people thought Mike sucked and Jordan would be better. Quit parading around here and acting like that was the majority opinion, because it certainly wasn't.
The majority said that Mike as a Sr. was obviously better than what we had coming in/back. Looking back now, it is actually less of a fall off than I thought. Jordan replaced Mike's scoring and most of his assists, but we are not as good defensively.
Exactly. We lost four players that are solid to plus defenders in Woody, JU, Sapp, and Mike. It seems odd to place our lack of defense this year entirely on Bohannon.
Here is a question for 5656. If Bohannon played alongside, Woody, Sapp, and JU would his advanced defensive ratings go up, down, or stay the same? Remember this has nothing to do with whether he is a better defender than Mike.
So what if 2 or 5 people thought Mike sucked and Jordan would be better. Quit parading around here and acting like that was the majority opinion, because it certainly wasn't.
The majority said that Mike as a Sr. was obviously better than what we had coming in/back. Looking back now, it is actually less of a fall off than I thought. Jordan replaced Mike's scoring and most of his assists, but we are not as good defensively.
I think more than 2 people said Mike's production wouldn't be hard to replace even though it hasn't even been close to being replaced
NikeHawk21
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He's a great free throw shooter but he's only shooting 35% from 3
Another classic troll5656 cherry picked stat. 3pt% only gets you so far. There is a difference of a guy shooting 36%* which Jordan is, who has attempted over 90 3s, and a guy who's shooting 40% but only attempted 40. Do you think any opposing coach who scouts Iowa says "#3 he's an average shooter, he shoots 36%, I wouldn't worry about him out there?" You're clearly trolling, if not your lack of basketball knowledge is astounding.
Another classic troll5656 cherry picked stat. 3pt% only gets you so far. There is a difference of a guy shooting 36%* which Jordan is, who has attempted over 90 3s, and a guy who's shooting 40% but only attempted 40. Do you think any opposing coach who scouts Iowa says "#3 he's an average shooter, he shoots 36%, I wouldn't worry about him out there?" You're clearly trolling, if not your lack of basketball knowledge is astounding.
I'm saying I don't think he's shown he's a great 3 pt shooter. Too streaky
NikeHawk21
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I'm saying I don't think he's shown he's a great 3 pt shooter. Too streaky
Still love to hear a response to whether Jordan's advanced defensive stats would go up if he played alongside Woody, JU, and Sapp?
Still love to hear a response to whether Jordan's advanced defensive stats would go up if he played alongside Woody, JU, and Sapp?
I'm sure they would go up some yeah. He'd be by far the worst defender out of that group
You are crazy. You are saying it's not hard to replace three of our better defenders? That lineup would be much worse than last year
Not when they're all so bad on offense. Kinda the same concept of replacing Jok next year. It will hurt on the offensive end but help on the defensive end.
Still love to hear a response to whether Jordan's advanced defensive stats would go up if he played alongside Woody, JU, and Sapp?
I asked that awhile back. I think he responded by showing Bohannon's 2 pt percentage.
Not when they're all so bad on offense. Kinda the same concept of replacing Jok next year. It will hurt on the offensive end but help on the defensive end.
All those players that were "so bad on offense" had much higher offensive ratings than Bohannon has this year. Let me guess, offensive rating is now bogus too just like KenPom?
You are crazy. You are saying it's not hard to replace three of our better defenders? That lineup would be much worse than last year
Much worse than the team who was ranked top 5 or worse than the team who couldn't win a game at the end of the year? I would bet a lot of money that this team plus Uthoff would end up a better seed than last year.
NikeHawk21
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I'm sure they would go up some yeah. He'd be by far the worst defender out of that group
So it's settled than. Jordan's PER (11.2) would go up playing with those better defensive players. I also think his offensive rating might go up too playing with JU and Jok because he would get a lot more open looks, and Sapp could help him with some of the ball handling duties.
Jordan PER (11.2) would increase (from 5656 himself)
Mike senior PER (15.3)
So in essence they are pretty close. The senior a little better than the freshman, not surprising, but overall production pretty close.
Much worse than the team who was ranked top 5 or worse than the team who couldn't win a game at the end of the year? I would bet a lot of money that this team plus Uthoff would end up a better seed than last year.
You would be wrong then
So it's settled than. Jordan's PER (11.2) would go up playing with those better defensive players. I also think his offensive rating might go up too playing with JU and Jok because he would get a lot more open looks, and Sapp could help him with some of the ball handling duties.
Jordan PER (11.2) would increase (from 5656 himself)
Mike senior PER (15.3)
So in essence they are pretty close.
Of course he would be better if he wasn't asked to be a starting Big Ten PG and could come off the bench and have his role as a spot up shooter
All those players that were "so bad on offense" had much higher offensive ratings than Bohannon has this year. Let me guess, offensive rating is now bogus too just like KenPom?
I'll tell you right now, any stat that says Adam Woodbury is better on offense than Bohannon needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
I'll tell you right now, any stat that says Adam Woodbury is better on offense than Bohannon needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
Why? Woodbury shot 21% better from the floor than Bohannon has.
Of course he would be better if he wasn't asked to be a starting Big Ten PG and could come off the bench and have his role as a spot up shooter
Jok would be a better defender if he only played 20 minutes a game. Damn Fran and his lousy recruiting.
