MSUM's Anthony Tucker shows a knack for the basket

Thawki said:
What are you basing it on when you say Tucker is a great shooter? Is it based upon anything that as happened in a game during an official season? There are plenty of guys that are great when they are scrimmaging. I wouldn't say he is great at anything until I see it in a game. Have we seen it in a game from him?
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He didn't say Tucker was a great shooter. Just better than Ogelsby, which from what we've seen this year, doesn't take much to accomplish.
 
Foval21 said:
I don't know...I think he would have a very good role on a team like ours. I think he could be a solid 6 or 7 man for us. I wouldn't trade anyone for him but his rebounding and offense (what he had at iowa and last yr) would have made a solid back up for white. I think he could be a solid 12 to 15 min guy to spell white at the 4.
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He could probably contribute but I wouldn't trade any of our 4s for him as I think he would be behind all 3 of them and Myer has much more potential.
 
Foval21 said:
Maybe I'm remembering him wrong but I think he is a more skilled version of mccabe. I would guess he would play more then him. He also has more offensive skills than basabe but can't run the floor or block shots like mel.
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I don't think he could put the ball on the floor like McCabe can, I don't remember him being a shooter at all and only slightly more athletic. Better rebounder though.
 
When thinking about Fuller, it comes down to this, is he a better player than Basabe?

In some areas he is far superior and I think that he would have been a good bridge guy with Gatens last year and the No. 2 scoring option. Was Fuller spectacular, no, he was a player that would have helped Iowa last season as he could do a little bit of everything and he was a decent offensive rebounder as well.

The knock on him for me was he was injured often and really disappeared at times, he is doing the same at USC. In the end, I still felt Gatens was a far better player than people ever thought Fuller was.

Any way you look at it though, he would have taken a scholarship away from someone, would it have been Basabe, White, Oglesby, Olaseni? McCabe/Marble weren't going anywhere, but those are the guys Fran has brought in since. Honestly, I am fine with the current players rather than Fuller.
 
storminspank said:
Major College Level (assuming the Big Six conferences in basketball):
Tyler Smith - transferred to Tennessee and was a huge part of their team.
Jon Buetjer - transferred to Illinois and played the foosball there.
Nick Dewitz - transferred to Oregon State and played well for them.
Aaron Fuller - transferred to USC and has been a very good role player.
Jeff Peterson - transferred to Arkansas and then to Florida State, was better at Iowa

Others:
Marcellus Sommerville - transferred to Bradley and was an all-conf type player.
Cortney Scott - transferred to Oakland and was terrific for them.
Sean Sonderleiter - quit basketball
Ben Rand - transferred to Northern Illinois, started in 1/2 of the games.
Carlton Reed - transferred to UNI, didn't do much there.
Alex Thompson - transferred to ISU, did little to nothing there just as he did at Iowa.
Tony Freeman - transferred to SIU, pretty productive there.
Josh Crawford - transferred to Indiana State, marginal player.
Jake Kelly - transferred to Indiana State, big role for that team.
David Palmer - transferred to Northern Kentucky, best player on their team
Jermain Davis - transferred to Minnesota State - Mankato
Anthony Tucker - transferred to Winona and then to Minnesota State - Mankato, playing well
Brennan Cougill - transferred to Wisc-Green Bay, having a good senior year
Nick Neari - transferred to UW-Parkside
Cully Payne - transferred to Loyola
John Lickliter - transferred to Marian, quit basketball


Those are the guys I can think of off the top of my head. I think I am missing some, though
So, I'd agree with sportstalent, not many people left Iowa and went big time. Tyler Smith is about the only candidate.
This says two things - the players wanted to be bigger fish in smaller ponds or Iowa didn't recruit well.... a little bit of both. Also, coaching changes had some affect.
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I think that is least of the factors...Tony Freeman probably really the only guy that affected as he was decent.

When I take a look at that list, some things jump out to me. One, I wish Sommerville would have stayed at Iowa, he was a very good player. Tyler Smith, the only real contributor to good teams, not counting Sommerville.

The other thing that comes to mind is how many of these guys were Spring signees?

I know Thompson wasn't, but he also only had one moment in his career that was relevant (BTT Championship Game 3-pt shot).

Recruiting under SA/TL was a mystery, who do they have to sign in the Spring to replace the transfers or non-qualifiers. There was a culture at Iowa that began with SA that TL couldn't change as he was not the right guy for the job.
 
Thawki said:
What are you basing it on when you say Tucker is a great shooter? Is it based upon anything that as happened in a game during an official season? There are plenty of guys that are great when they are scrimmaging. I wouldn't say he is great at anything until I see it in a game. Have we seen it in a game from him?
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Tucker was an excellent shot while he was here. He had range to go with it. You have to realize the kid was a freshman/sophomore when he played here. There were nights that he was completely dialed in and couldnt miss. Other nights he didn't go off, but his shot was very nice.
 
HawkeyeHypnosis said:
Tucker was an excellent shot while he was here. He had range to go with it. You have to realize the kid was a freshman/sophomore when he played here. There were nights that he was completely dialed in and couldnt miss. Other nights he didn't go off, but his shot was very nice.
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Are you serious? Show me a box score where he had a line that was anything other than an okay game. And then if you find one like that, then show me three more. He didn't even play that much in his time on campus.

And in terms of how spank has described his shot he has always said for anyone that will listen that Tucker has the smoothest shot he has ever seen, like that matters for anything if you don't use it to score points in competition

Just because someone that writes on a website says a guy has the sweetest/smoothest/whatever shot he has ever seen, that doesn't really mean anything to me if I don't know who he has seen or what the writer really knows about the game. And considering Tucker never really amounted to anything at Iowa and as near as I can tell he is finally, MAYBE amounting to something in what seems like his tenth year out of high school, I have to wonder about his assessment of a player, quite frankly.
 
Thawki said:
Are you serious? Show me a box score where he had a line that was anything other than an okay game. And then if you find one like that, then show me three more. He didn't even play that much in his time on campus.

And in terms of how spank has described his shot he has always said for anyone that will listen that Tucker has the smoothest shot he has ever seen, like that matters for anything if you don't use it to score points in competition

Just because someone that writes on a website says a guy has the sweetest/smoothest/whatever shot he has ever seen, that doesn't really mean anything to me if I don't know who he has seen or what the writer really knows about the game. And considering Tucker never really amounted to anything at Iowa and as near as I can tell he is finally, MAYBE amounting to something in what seems like his tenth year out of high school, I have to wonder about his assessment of a player, quite frankly.
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Although, I worried about the rant I am going to get in return here, Tucker really did have a nice looking shot when he was at Iowa. He had some good games, a 32 pt game in there. Ball handling was average at best and he wasn't a great athlete. I saw nothing that said he would be a good to great player at Iowa. Could he have been a great shooter yes, anything beyond that see below.

Here is my whole problem with Tucker: How many Big Ten games did he play in?
 
Thawki said:
Are you serious? Show me a box score where he had a line that was anything other than an okay game. And then if you find one like that, then show me three more. He didn't even play that much in his time on campus.

And in terms of how spank has described his shot he has always said for anyone that will listen that Tucker has the smoothest shot he has ever seen, like that matters for anything if you don't use it to score points in competition

Just because someone that writes on a website says a guy has the sweetest/smoothest/whatever shot he has ever seen, that doesn't really mean anything to me if I don't know who he has seen or what the writer really knows about the game. And considering Tucker never really amounted to anything at Iowa and as near as I can tell he is finally, MAYBE amounting to something in what seems like his tenth year out of high school, I have to wonder about his assessment of a player, quite frankly.
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Freshman year:
vs Citadel (3rd collegiate game): 21 pts, 7-11 from three
vs SEMO St: 14 pts, 4-9 from three, 10 rebounds
vs West Virginia: 24 pts, 6-9 from three
8 out of his first 10 games of his career he scored in double-digits.
He was Iowa's leading scorer as a true freshman until he came down with mono (and that whole alcohol deal)

Sophomore year:
vs Bowling Green: 13 pts, 3-6 from three, 5 rebounds, 9 assists
He had two other 20+ performances his soph year too vs Virginia Tech and Prairie View AM.

And that's playing in an awful offense.
 
Thawki said:
Are you serious? Show me a box score where he had a line that was anything other than an okay game. And then if you find one like that, then show me three more. He didn't even play that much in his time on campus.

And in terms of how spank has described his shot he has always said for anyone that will listen that Tucker has the smoothest shot he has ever seen, like that matters for anything if you don't use it to score points in competition

Just because someone that writes on a website says a guy has the sweetest/smoothest/whatever shot he has ever seen, that doesn't really mean anything to me if I don't know who he has seen or what the writer really knows about the game. And considering Tucker never really amounted to anything at Iowa and as near as I can tell he is finally, MAYBE amounting to something in what seems like his tenth year out of high school, I have to wonder about his assessment of a player, quite frankly.
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He hit 7 threes as a freshman in a game. Had 5 against VT his soph year where he scored 24. He had a few 24 point games. He struggled at the beginning if his sophomore year. As for Spanks description of his shot, has nothing to do with what I said. If you would have maybe watched a game during his time here, you would have seen that he had a solid stroke. It was hard to understand why they weren't dropping his soph year. I was in attendance to numerous games while he was here, and his shot was pretty. Heres a gazette article talking about his game against VT.

Iowa’s Anthony Tucker gets past mental hurdle in 3-point barrage | TheGazette
 
storminspank said:
Just 4. All his freshman year. And he wasn't healthy for that stretch either (mono).
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Having not seen him play against consistent major conference play he is kind of a myth.

There were those moments that he played well, but he was never there for a full season and that is what makes it so difficult to me to really judge him as a player.
 
I thought by his senior year he'd have a chance to be an all-Big Ten guy. He had a lot to improve in certain areas.
The only real thing I've been consistently hounding upon people is his shot itself. Again, just pure money.
 
He had or has a very pure shot. He was a set shooter in the iowa offense at the time and set shooters typically have very smooth shots.
 
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