trj
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Dunking is perhaps the most overrated skill for a basketball player.
Dunking on someone isn’t what it used to be. What gets the kids excited these days is crossing someone over and hitting a 3.
Dunking is perhaps the most overrated skill for a basketball player.
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I absolutely agree 100%. I've been explaining that very concept to NotsoGr8N8, in another thread. Running in a straight line and leaping to dunk a basketball, doesn't make you a great athlete! Especially when you are 6'5 with a 6'8 wingspan. James Daniels is gonna be a 1st round draft pick in the NFL because of his lateral athleticism. That man's an elite athlete and his bank account will soon reflect that fact. He probably can't dunk a basketball.
P.S. Magic wasn't a great leaper, that's true. But with his height and length, he could dunk fairly easily. Google it. You'll see.
Here's a picture of Larry Bird with a vertical leap. He could get up there a little. Of course, you can see how much higher Dr, J could get.
Die hard, you just broke my heart. I had a 30" vertical in my prime. I had (have) a slight problem. I'm only 5'9". I could touch the rim pretty good, but needed the hoop set at nine feet to be able to dunk.Cool, and, yes, I completely agree with you. I've watched more of their games than I care to count, and still watch those match-ups on ESPN Classics. Great, great memories.
Yes, I've seen both dunk...more than once...but neither had true hops, and like I said, Magic used to get razzed by his teammates. I remember Michael Cooper laughing about it one time in an interview.
Larry's official vertical was 28" and Magic's was 30 (not exactly stellar), and, that was when they entered the league so it would have went down from there.
I remember a sports writer in the very early 80's talking about the black/caucasion polarity that existed at the time. Bird was the Great White Hope, and African Americans were somewhat offended by all the attention he was getting (which lead to the infamous Isaiah Thomas faux pas...). There was this talk that Bird had "white man's disease" and that Magic was easily better. The reporter then brought up the fact that Magic actually wasn't that great of an athlete in terms of jumping, and said something to the effect that, "black fans don't really want to discuss that..." He wasn't pointing it out in a negative way or defending Bird, per se, but it was more just a social observation.
LOL. Sorry...Die hard, you just broke my heart. I had a 30" vertical in my prime. I had (have) a slight problem. I'm only 5'9". I could touch the rim pretty good, but needed the hoop set at nine feet to be able to dunk.
My seventh grade son and his teammates will tell you that their biggest on court thrill is being able to "break the defender's ankles" on a drive or crossover. If it happens in a high school game the entire student section oohs and aahs.
Dr J was a badass who had hands like meathooks. He also had great midair body control in addition to great hops. It all added up to an electrifying act.
LOL. Sorry...
If you are 5'9" with a 30" vertical then you must have pretty long arms.
When I was a sprinter in college and was in peak condition, I dunked a volleyball a couple of times (barely). I'm 5'11" but never had my vertical checked. At the time, I could squat over 400 lbs though.
Terry is up to #114 in the updated rivals 2019 rankings.
So weird how you can instantly like him more after reading this.
Not a chance. Do you realize the difference between the 150th ranked recruit and the 208th ranked recruit? It's huge.Fredrick went up to 208 for 2018 in 247's final rankings. Does that mean we can sort of like him now?
Not a chance. Do you realize the difference between the 150th ranked recruit and the 208th ranked recruit? It's huge.
So weird how you can instantly like him more after reading this.
Not a chance. Do you realize the difference between the 150th ranked recruit and the 208th ranked recruit? It's huge.
I realize this is in jest, but I was curious based on our sampling of players if that really bears out (this is only based off high school ranks and I was too lazy to look up JUCO and transfers). I have no idea how to interpret it, but since I did it for myself, I figured I'd post it here too.
2018 Average - 140.5
CJ Fredrick - 226/208
Joe Wieskamp - 55/49
2017 Average - 154
Connor McCaffery - 152/240
Luka Garza - 118/105
Jack Nunge - 202/125
I realize this is in jest, but I was curious based on our sampling of players if that really bears out (this is only based off high school ranks and I was too lazy to look up JUCO and transfers). I have no idea how to interpret it, but since I did it for myself, I figured I'd post it here too.
2018 Average - 140.5
CJ Fredrick - 226/208
Joe Wieskamp - 55/49
2017 Average - 154
Connor McCaffery - 152/240
Luka Garza - 118/105
Jack Nunge - 202/125
2016 Average - 253
Tyler Cook - 72
Cordell Pemsl - 230
Jordan Bohannon - 312
Ryan Kriener - 317
Maishe Dailey - 332
2015 Average - 306
Brandon Hutton - 222
Isaiah Moss - 248
Andrew Flemming - 278
Ahmad Wagner - 283
Christian Williams - NR(500)
2014 Average - 307
Dom Uhl - 267
Brady Ellingson - 346
2013 Average - 304
Peter Jok - 304
2012 Average - 203
Adam Woodbury - 46
Mike Gesell - 86
Kyle Meyer - 249
Anthony Clemmons - 315
Patrick Ingram - 318
2011 Average - 259
Aaron White - 169
Josh Oglesby - 175
Gabe Olaseni - 434
2010 Average - 241
Melsahn Basabe - 192
Bryce Cartwright - 248
Devyn Marble - 257
Zach McCabe - 267
2009 Average - 235
Brennan Cougill - 191
Cully Payne - 204
Eric May - 220
Andrew Brommer - 326
Not a chance. Do you realize the difference between the 150th ranked recruit and the 208th ranked recruit? It's huge.
Not a chance. Do you realize the difference between the 150th ranked recruit and the 208th ranked recruit? It's huge.