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Thugs trash huh? Explain please.

Doesn't have the balls to face Manny? We know if Mayweather fought MP, he would beat him down. Mayweather is so much faster than MP its unreal.

Really? Wow!! Seen it all tonight. I will just move on, I've seen it all now.

Super you approve of Wife Beaters.


Just google this:
http://www.google.com/search?aq=0&o...=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=floyd+mayweather+rap+sheet

Then google this:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=manny+pacquiao+rap+sheet


You tell me who is the better human being. For the record I do believe that Manny is the better fighter as well.

I read this back in December. This guy has it right.
http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-b...-mayweather-jail?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next
 
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Its not mayweather who is holding this thing up. He knows he is getting older and he has been the one pushing it. Plus how can you vote against someone who doesn't lose?
 
Its not mayweather who is holding this thing up. He knows he is getting older and he has been the one pushing it. Plus how can you vote against someone who doesn't lose?

Floyd Mayweather Jr., it seems as if he isn’t 100 percent invested in seeing this fight made because Pacquiao represents by far the biggest threat to his undefeated record and claim that he is the best boxer in history. If Mayweather loses, then the sole basis for his entire argument―the whole “I’m undefeated so I must be the best because the numbers don’t lie” nonsense―flies right out the window, and Mayweather can’t have that.

Mayweather isn’t afraid of Pacquiao, not in the least bit. But he is afraid of a loss. When a fighter is his own biggest fan, getting him to concede to anything in negotiations is going to be a battle beyond belief.

I think it will be a great fight, a fight boxing fans and fight fans in general want to see.
 
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You come at me with your boxing knowledge and you give me an article from Huffington Post? By the way thanks for the article, it proves that Manny didn't except the fight. Here's an article for you from a real boxing website:

We Keep Hope Alive For Floyd-Manny in May...WOODS

"Floyd though he is seen by and large as the favorite, the better boxer, and for that reason perhaps should be apportioned a bigger chunk of the take"

From Angelo Dundee, you know, he's only trained Ali, Leonard, and Foreman:

"I think Pacquaio is being very intelligent, he knows he might get himself licked."


As I said Floyd is a great boxer, but it's a complete joke to say he hasn't been the one to hold up the fight. It's common knowledge.

Pretty hilarious you make fun of my link and then link the opinion of a 90 year old man who is so old he has since died!
 
Thugs trash huh? Explain please.Doesn't have the balls to face Manny? We know if Mayweather fought MP, he would beat him down. Mayweather is so much faster than MP its unreal.
i be scared if i was you to fight filipino.you dont know filipino way of life:eek:

Me fight MP? Yeah, I'm sure a 26yr old out of shape non-boxer could really hang with MP, quite possibly the stupidest comment you have ever made.
 
MP agreed to take a smaller cut of the purse? Big whoop. Mayweather told him the day that should have worked for both, and "it doesn't work" for MP? He had ample time for a training camp, more than enough. I really like Freddie Roach and Manny, but I personally feel they don't want to fight Mayweather because they know he will lose.

This ridiculous post shows just how biased you are. You aren't even in touch with reality.

I respect the opinion Floyd could win the fight, but there is no way any rational person can say he's not been the one holding it up.
 
Thugs trash huh? Explain please.Doesn't have the balls to face Manny? We know if Mayweather fought MP, he would beat him down. Mayweather is so much faster than MP its unreal.
Really? Wow!! Seen it all tonight. I will just move on, I've seen it all now.Super you approve of Wife Beaters. Just google this:http://www.google.com/search?aq=0&o...=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=floyd mayweather rap sheetThen google this:http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=manny pacquiao rap sheet You tell me who is the better human being. For the record I do believe that Manny is the better fighter as well.I read this back in December. This guy has it right.http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-b...-mayweather-jail?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next

Wow! Seen it all, then leave. Yes, I know his rap sheet, and no I don't approve of woman beaters. I like Mayweather as a boxer, a person, that's a different story but you calling him "thug trash" is in poor taste by you. Don't act all high and mighty.
 
Wow! Seen it all, then leave. Yes, I know his rap sheet, and no I don't approve of woman beaters. I like Mayweather as a boxer, a person, that's a different story but you calling him "thug trash" is in poor taste by you. Don't act all high and mighty.

Not acting all high and mighty. Mayweather has that covered. Poor taste is when you beat your kids mother. I just speak the Truth on FM.
 
MP agreed to take a smaller cut of the purse? Big whoop. Mayweather told him the day that should have worked for both, and "it doesn't work" for MP? He had ample time for a training camp, more than enough. I really like Freddie Roach and Manny, but I personally feel they don't want to fight Mayweather because they know he will lose.
This ridiculous post shows just how biased you are. You aren't even in touch with reality. I respect the opinion Floyd could win the fight, but there is no way any rational person can say he's not been the one holding it up.

Tell me why he would hold it up besides "not wanting to lose." No one likes/wants to lose. Don't forget, this fight would need them both more money than they would ever need. Don't forget Mayweather's nickname "Money," he wouldn't turn down all that money.
 
Tell me why he would hold it up besides "not wanting to lose." No one likes/wants to lose. Don't forget, this fight would need them both more money than they would ever need. Don't forget Mayweather's nickname "Money," he wouldn't turn down all that money.

I have no idea why he is holding it up, but he has for YEARS.
 
1. That was a clean shot. The other guy had just got done headbutting him...so talk a bout a dirty shot. He was kicking his *** anyway. Agree?

2. My mistake, I wasn't thinking about Mayweathers fight, I meant to say Paqui's last fight. He struggled against a guy that Mayweather knocked out with ease. Paqui's puppet master trainer realized he will not win after that, and has told Paqui this.

3. There is a 100% chance that Paqui was on juice. This is why Mayweahter did not fight him in that past. He wouldn't agree to testing.

FIFY
 
Manny is a ho and a doper. He can't shine Floyds shoes and after Manny's last performance his trainers and promoters know he'd take a beating hence he had no interest in fighting Floyd in May.
 
Ahhh, the Pac Man/Money May debate, always entertaining. First off, IMO I think both sides have done plenty to avoid this fight but I believe Mayweather truly wants to make it happen. Who he takes on as opponents shows that he wants to beat the best (after Manny, Ortiz was the best option at welterweight after coming off a huge victory over Berto) and now he's fighting Cotto who again is the best option available within Mayweathers fighting weight after Pac.

Manny would only agree to fight Cotto if he drained himself down to 147 from his usual 154 fight weight. Mayweather is moving up to 154, no catch weight at all, he is moving up to where Cotto is comfortable. Pac man does not do this for any opponents, he always has a catch weight that favors him. His last two fights have been pathetic. The Mosley fight was a joke then he wins a controversial decision over Marquez. Many thought he lost that fight. His age is now showing and I don't think there is any doubt that his decline is coming before Mayweathers. When boxers start getting past 35 they really start to fall. Mayweather knows this and I think he has avoided him in the past but now is ready to go because he sees Manny is vulnerable. So in the past, I blame both for the fight not happening but now I blame Pac man.

The other thing to look at is the handlers. Bob Arum is a POS. He is notorious for milking his best fighters for years by matching them up with inferior opponents. Look at Chavez Jr, another Arum disciple, the guy is a champ who refuses to fight anyone who is a true threat. He has over 50 fights but his top two opponents are Zbik and Rubio (who??? exactly).

Also, saying Mayweather has to fight Sergio to prove himself is unfair, Sergio fights two weight classes above Mayweather. And Mayweather is a natural welterweight, he walks around a little over 150 when not in training, most boxers walk around 15-20 lbs higher than their fighting weight. Martinez fights at 160. It sucks that no one will fight Martinez, he is a great champ and doesnt deserve the ducking so late in his career ( I believe he is 37, so the decline should be just around the corner). But if you want to call out fighters who avoid Martinez look no further than Chavez Jr.

One last thing, as far as the May/Pac matchup, no one who looks at the fight objectively will favor Pac. Not saying he doesnt have a chance, Mayweather has shown he can be vulnerable to a big punch (Hatton wobbled him in the 1st rnd of their fight) but his d is too good. He grew up a boxer where Manny grew up a puncher and has been trained to box over the last 10 years by Roach. Before Roach a combination from Manny was left left left left right left left left. When odds came out on them a year or two ago, before negotiations broke down, Mayweather was a 2 or 3-1 favorite. If and when they fight he will be favored again and it will be a huge upset (not impossible but very unlikely) is Manny were to pull it out.

All this - Mayweather fighting the best opponents availabe (after Manny), Manny showing decline, Manny habitually avoiding game fighters, Mayweather willing to move to a weight thats is more comfortable for his opponents, Mayweather the odds on favorite, all point to Manny being the one avoiding the fight. With Arum it's all business so here is how I see it shaking out: he will milk Manny for 2-3 more PPV's against inferior opponents then set up the big pay day and send Manny into retirement with a loss to Mayweather.

What to look for: The Berto/Ortiz winner will be the number one challenger for these guys, but it is reported that Mayweather agreed to fight Alvarez if he beats Mosley on the undercard May 5th. So, in a perfect world, Manny will fight the Berto/Ortiz winner and Mayweather will fight Alvarez. Then if they both win, it sets up the fight everyone has been clamoring for for years. I think the fight will happen and it will be a great fight, but its going to come too late, both will be past their prime.

And if you think boxing is dead after these two guys are gone, watch the Rios/Gamboa fight April 14th. Oh, and sorry for the winded post, I just really like boxing.
 
Finally! It took until post 73 for someone to name the real problem in this. Bob freaking Arum!!! He wonders who will guarantee Mann y's side for the purse. Interesting how Pac's highest pay day in Nevada was a shade under $7.5 Million. Manny bring the money to his fights. Oh and by the way he does work with Golden Boy Promotions. They have some money. Mayweather was at first the one holding up this fight but now it is clearly Pac's camp, primarily Bob Arum.
 
Ahhh, the Pac Man/Money May debate, always entertaining. First off, IMO I think both sides have done plenty to avoid this fight but I believe Mayweather truly wants to make it happen. Who he takes on as opponents shows that he wants to beat the best (after Manny, Ortiz was the best option at welterweight after coming off a huge victory over Berto) and now he's fighting Cotto who again is the best option available within Mayweathers fighting weight after Pac.

Manny would only agree to fight Cotto if he drained himself down to 147 from his usual 154 fight weight. Mayweather is moving up to 154, no catch weight at all, he is moving up to where Cotto is comfortable. Pac man does not do this for any opponents, he always has a catch weight that favors him. His last two fights have been pathetic. The Mosley fight was a joke then he wins a controversial decision over Marquez. Many thought he lost that fight. His age is now showing and I don't think there is any doubt that his decline is coming before Mayweathers. When boxers start getting past 35 they really start to fall. Mayweather knows this and I think he has avoided him in the past but now is ready to go because he sees Manny is vulnerable. So in the past, I blame both for the fight not happening but now I blame Pac man.

The other thing to look at is the handlers. Bob Arum is a POS. He is notorious for milking his best fighters for years by matching them up with inferior opponents. Look at Chavez Jr, another Arum disciple, the guy is a champ who refuses to fight anyone who is a true threat. He has over 50 fights but his top two opponents are Zbik and Rubio (who??? exactly).

Also, saying Mayweather has to fight Sergio to prove himself is unfair, Sergio fights two weight classes above Mayweather. And Mayweather is a natural welterweight, he walks around a little over 150 when not in training, most boxers walk around 15-20 lbs higher than their fighting weight. Martinez fights at 160. It sucks that no one will fight Martinez, he is a great champ and doesnt deserve the ducking so late in his career ( I believe he is 37, so the decline should be just around the corner). But if you want to call out fighters who avoid Martinez look no further than Chavez Jr.

One last thing, as far as the May/Pac matchup, no one who looks at the fight objectively will favor Pac. Not saying he doesnt have a chance, Mayweather has shown he can be vulnerable to a big punch (Hatton wobbled him in the 1st rnd of their fight) but his d is too good. He grew up a boxer where Manny grew up a puncher and has been trained to box over the last 10 years by Roach. Before Roach a combination from Manny was left left left left right left left left. When odds came out on them a year or two ago, before negotiations broke down, Mayweather was a 2 or 3-1 favorite. If and when they fight he will be favored again and it will be a huge upset (not impossible but very unlikely) is Manny were to pull it out.

All this - Mayweather fighting the best opponents availabe (after Manny), Manny showing decline, Manny habitually avoiding game fighters, Mayweather willing to move to a weight thats is more comfortable for his opponents, Mayweather the odds on favorite, all point to Manny being the one avoiding the fight. With Arum it's all business so here is how I see it shaking out: he will milk Manny for 2-3 more PPV's against inferior opponents then set up the big pay day and send Manny into retirement with a loss to Mayweather.

What to look for: The Berto/Ortiz winner will be the number one challenger for these guys, but it is reported that Mayweather agreed to fight Alvarez if he beats Mosley on the undercard May 5th. So, in a perfect world, Manny will fight the Berto/Ortiz winner and Mayweather will fight Alvarez. Then if they both win, it sets up the fight everyone has been clamoring for for years. I think the fight will happen and it will be a great fight, but its going to come too late, both will be past their prime.

And if you think boxing is dead after these two guys are gone, watch the Rios/Gamboa fight April 14th. Oh, and sorry for the winded post, I just really like boxing.

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Ahhh, the Pac Man/Money May debate, always entertaining. First off, IMO I think both sides have done plenty to avoid this fight but I believe Mayweather truly wants to make it happen. Who he takes on as opponents shows that he wants to beat the best (after Manny, Ortiz was the best option at welterweight after coming off a huge victory over Berto) and now he's fighting Cotto who again is the best option available within Mayweathers fighting weight after Pac.

Manny would only agree to fight Cotto if he drained himself down to 147 from his usual 154 fight weight. Mayweather is moving up to 154, no catch weight at all, he is moving up to where Cotto is comfortable. Pac man does not do this for any opponents, he always has a catch weight that favors him. His last two fights have been pathetic. The Mosley fight was a joke then he wins a controversial decision over Marquez. Many thought he lost that fight. His age is now showing and I don't think there is any doubt that his decline is coming before Mayweathers. When boxers start getting past 35 they really start to fall. Mayweather knows this and I think he has avoided him in the past but now is ready to go because he sees Manny is vulnerable. So in the past, I blame both for the fight not happening but now I blame Pac man.

The other thing to look at is the handlers. Bob Arum is a POS. He is notorious for milking his best fighters for years by matching them up with inferior opponents. Look at Chavez Jr, another Arum disciple, the guy is a champ who refuses to fight anyone who is a true threat. He has over 50 fights but his top two opponents are Zbik and Rubio (who??? exactly).

Also, saying Mayweather has to fight Sergio to prove himself is unfair, Sergio fights two weight classes above Mayweather. And Mayweather is a natural welterweight, he walks around a little over 150 when not in training, most boxers walk around 15-20 lbs higher than their fighting weight. Martinez fights at 160. It sucks that no one will fight Martinez, he is a great champ and doesnt deserve the ducking so late in his career ( I believe he is 37, so the decline should be just around the corner). But if you want to call out fighters who avoid Martinez look no further than Chavez Jr.

One last thing, as far as the May/Pac matchup, no one who looks at the fight objectively will favor Pac. Not saying he doesnt have a chance, Mayweather has shown he can be vulnerable to a big punch (Hatton wobbled him in the 1st rnd of their fight) but his d is too good. He grew up a boxer where Manny grew up a puncher and has been trained to box over the last 10 years by Roach. Before Roach a combination from Manny was left left left left right left left left. When odds came out on them a year or two ago, before negotiations broke down, Mayweather was a 2 or 3-1 favorite. If and when they fight he will be favored again and it will be a huge upset (not impossible but very unlikely) is Manny were to pull it out.

All this - Mayweather fighting the best opponents availabe (after Manny), Manny showing decline, Manny habitually avoiding game fighters, Mayweather willing to move to a weight thats is more comfortable for his opponents, Mayweather the odds on favorite, all point to Manny being the one avoiding the fight. With Arum it's all business so here is how I see it shaking out: he will milk Manny for 2-3 more PPV's against inferior opponents then set up the big pay day and send Manny into retirement with a loss to Mayweather.

What to look for: The Berto/Ortiz winner will be the number one challenger for these guys, but it is reported that Mayweather agreed to fight Alvarez if he beats Mosley on the undercard May 5th. So, in a perfect world, Manny will fight the Berto/Ortiz winner and Mayweather will fight Alvarez. Then if they both win, it sets up the fight everyone has been clamoring for for years. I think the fight will happen and it will be a great fight, but its going to come too late, both will be past their prime.

And if you think boxing is dead after these two guys are gone, watch the Rios/Gamboa fight April 14th. Oh, and sorry for the winded post, I just really like boxing.

Regardless of the different opinions of whose at fault, who is better, etc, the one thing that is encouraging is that there seems to be some legitimate boxing fans on this site. We need to get together for more threads leading up to bigger fights.

I am going to say that this mega fight is going to happen late this year or early next year and not after another set of bouts that you're suggesting. My reasoning is simple: Manny is either going to lose or look really bad against Bradley. Bradley is not being discussed but he is a major player in this. He's undefeated and has such a big head that it always finds itself cutting his opponent.

After the Bradley fight Arum is going to realize Manny's diminishing skills and will sign the fight as soon as he can before the money train leaves the station.
 
Regardless of the different opinions of whose at fault, who is better, etc, the one thing that is encouraging is that there seems to be some legitimate boxing fans on this site. We need to get together for more threads leading up to bigger fights.

I am going to say that this mega fight is going to happen late this year or early next year and not after another set of bouts that you're suggesting. My reasoning is simple: Manny is either going to lose or look really bad against Bradley. Bradley is not being discussed but he is a major player in this. He's undefeated and has such a big head that it always finds itself cutting his opponent.

After the Bradley fight Arum is going to realize Manny's diminishing skills and will sign the fight as soon as he can before the money train leaves the station.

The thing about boxing is you can never predict what is actually going to happen, so I hope you're right and they get it done sooner rather than later but it's wait and see with these guys. But I don't give Bradley as much respect as you do, he does have some good names on his resume but no A guys. If I'm remembering the right fight, his match with Devon Alexander was not impressive in the least. But like I said, you never know what's going to happen until they get in the ring.

I agree, we should start some boxing threads for upcoming fights. There are some interesting matchups this weekend but the Maidana/Alexander and Broner/Perez card on the 25th should be really good. If I have time tomorrow I'll start a thread for this weekend, if not I'll get one going for the 25th for sure
 
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