KF Responds to Ed Cunningham Comments

[Hawkfnntn]

I got no argument with that. I wish he had RS and Weigers was back up last season. But, IMO it's not about being chicken - it's about being smart. If you have a better option then putting a young QB into a disaster, go with that instead. That seems like coaching 101. If you have issues with Ferentz not RS Stanley, I can agree. Him not playing him in the FL game, made sense to me.

Yeah to me it's either you have the confidence in putting him in or you don't. If you don't then you sure as heck shouldn't have yanked his RS. To me that's 101. Being scared of putting your kids out there shouldn't be a part of their line of thinking. Once your given a scholly to put the pads on your signing yourself up to play if your good enough. And if your 2nd string anything your a play away from being in there... We should want the other teams talking about being scared of putting youngins out there against us. Not the other way around

 

[InGoodCo]

Yeah to me it's either you have the confidence in putting him in or you don't. If you don't then you sure as heck shouldn't have yanked his RS. To me that's 101. Being scared of putting your kids out there shouldn't be a part of their line of thinking. Once your given a scholly to put the pads on your signing yourself up to play if your good enough. And if your 2nd string anything your a play away from being in there... We should want the other teams talking about being scared of putting youngins out there against us. Not the other way around

If it were that black and white, I'd agree. I just think there's a lot that goes into developing the most important position in all of sports. I also think it has nothing to do with being scared and has more to do with being smart about how they bring a guy along. A lot of teams are scared to put in their Freshman QB's against Iowa. I am positive of that.

but I digress - we don't COMPLETELY disagree about everything here, just some in between the line stuff.

If you wanna say KF should have RS Stanley, you'll get 0 back lash from me. Dumb considering how little he played.

 

[westender]

you're right. he should have pulled the team off the field. go ahead and let the guy with the NFL future get beaten to pulp. look, my gripe is that it was a perfect time to get our future qb's experience against live ammo. that is one think kirk is horrible at. he should have given TW one series in the 4th against wy, don't you agree?

No I don't agree. Stanley had fumbled and offense was sort of sputtering so leave starters in and get it worked out. Different if it was like 55 to 3 and everything looked sterling but it was far from that.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

I have eyes and common sense... What if CJ was injured/hurt pretty bad. Say his hammy or groin was significantly torn worse because he was trying to play on it? Everyones pain tolerance is different and he obviously has a really high threshold of it. He didn't go under any examination on the bench in the 3rd q when it started to look really bad/obvious. Even IF the quacks that are paid by the schools/athletic departments I believe (correct me if I'm wrong about that) 'cleared' him that doesn't mean the coach has to keep trotting him out there. Since when did leaving an obviously hurt player out there in a game that's out of reach be it early 4th or even middle of it help the program? Isn't he about the program over individuals? The whole thing doesn't pass the smell test regardless of the kid/his parents blessing. We've had years and years of that already

What if....
A. A blimp crashed into the stadium and all of those people who said "dont go to the game cuz blimps."

B. You dont have common sense

C. Your vision is not 20/20

D. Youve never been a Division 1 head football coach

E. You and a few Nancy's start a campaign to save grown man millionaires. Let me know how that works out for you.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

Maybe more teams other than Shanahan's 49ers would've been interested in CJ...maybe even in earlier rounds? Can you say definitively the 3 interceptions in the Florida game didn't adversely affect his draft status? No, you can't.

I know that he was rated as a 5th round qb throughout the season last year. Probably a way to look it up on here. I dont think it matters who else he impressed. He impressed one and he's now a multi-millionaire.

 

[GesterHawk]

What if....
A. A blimp crashed into the stadium and all of those people who said "dont go to the game cuz blimps."

B. You dont have common sense

C. Your vision is not 20/20

D. Youve never been a Division 1 head football coach

E. You and a few Nancy's start a campaign to save grown man millionaires. Let me know how that works out for you.

Hey, remember than game when McNutt was almost crushed by a TV camera, we should stop playing televised games.

 

[GesterHawk]

If it were that black and white, I'd agree. I just think there's a lot that goes into developing the most important position in all of sports. I also think it has nothing to do with being scared and has more to do with being smart about how they bring a guy along. A lot of teams are scared to put in their Freshman QB's against Iowa. I am positive of that.

but I digress - we don't COMPLETELY disagree about everything here, just some in between the line stuff.

If you wanna say KF should have RS Stanley, you'll get 0 back lash from me. Dumb considering how little he played.

I would actually say that the reason why Stanley is starting now is because of his redzhirt being burned. He got to take all the QB2 snaps in practice and a lot of QB1 snaps when CJ was dinged. This set his development as a QB ahead far faster than spending a year getting the sporadic QB3 and scout looks would have.

 

[PCHawk]

I got no argument with that. I wish he had RS and Weigers was back up last season. But, IMO it's not about being chicken - it's about being smart. If you have a better option then putting a young QB into a disaster, go with that instead. That seems like coaching 101. If you have issues with Ferentz not RS Stanley, I can agree. Him not playing him in the FL game, made sense to me.

I don't know if I agree with you that Ferentz let his senior qb play injured because he was expendable and he cared more about his qb of the future.

Seriously tho, I think CJ being hurt and playing like he did had a lot to do with Florida's defense looking awesome. It's not like Stanley would have for sure gotten destroyed. I think he needed to go in earlier too. Just not for Cunningham's reasons. But the last 2 posts from Boat might be the best posts in this thread. I'm surprised the "Kirk screwed up" crowd hasn't responded to them.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

Wowza. Circular....

Go Hawks.

 

[PCHawk]

The last sentence of my post was sarcasm obviously. Of course they aren't responding to Boat's posts. They are impossible to argue with.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

Maybe more teams other than Shanahan's 49ers would've been interested in CJ...maybe even in earlier rounds? Can you say definitively the 3 interceptions in the Florida game didn't adversely affect his draft status? No, you can't.

Can i say it "seems" to have worked for all except you and Cunningham? Lol How many millions does CJB need? Lets just say you are right.....Mr. Christ is it? Jesus?.......how do you pronounce it? Oh like hey-sus? Oh, theres a b on the end.

If the guy was 5th round all season long....not sure going to the bench in the 4th quarter due to injury does much to change that. But no, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, i can not say for certain. Gosh i hate getting schooled. But, its Jesus...you know? Lol Your argument says, he goes to the bench, 100% someone drafts him before his draft spot in round 3.

 

[dwghawk]

Let's see now. He had two QBs on the bench, freshman and a RS sophomore, neither of which had more than a handful of snaps in a FBS football game. So let's throw one of them to the wolves against one of the top defenses in the nation on national TV. That would have done wonders for their confidence. Iowa was over matched in that game and probably should not have even been playing that team in the first place. Those two QBs were not ready for that and KF knew it.

Of course if he had gone withe the # 2 QB, Stanley I think, and he would have gotten pummeled and possibly injured by a defense smelling blood in the water. I'm sure some arm chair coaches would have been bit__ing about that too. Who knows, throwing an inexperianced QB in there to get mentally and physically abused may have been the last straw for Cunningham also. I think he was looking for any reason to advance his cause in the national spotlight.

And I'm not saying the cause isn't a good one. I just don't agree with using one incident as the last straw. If you can't articulate your reasons for being concerned about a football wide problem that exists from youth football all the way to the pros without putting one coach or one program in the spotlight then shame on you.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

No I don't agree. Stanley had fumbled and offense was sort of sputtering so leave starters in and get it worked out. Different if it was like 55 to 3 and everything looked sterling but it was far from that.

When we were up 24-3 and our defense was on fire; yes, I would have given our backup qb at least one series, once chance to run the 4-minute offense. That would be invaluable experience for a qb who's never done it before...as a RS JR.

 

[HomerChampless]

...You can ridicule his play calling, conservatism, how he dishes out playing time, what the team eats for breakfast...but if you question his integrity with not a shred of truth, I am glad he speaks out.

I'm going to respond to this last sentence of the post shortened by myself: I don't doubt KF's integrity. I doubt his expertise. His acquired football knowledge, or, maybe, some of his 'football ideologies' that prevent him from using his football knowledge. In other words, KF is a real old fashioned coach and no 'amount of advancements in football technology' is going to change his football acumen.

 

[InGoodCo]

I'm going to respond to this last sentence of the post shortened by myself: I don't doubt KF's integrity. I doubt his expertise. His acquired football knowledge, or, maybe, some of his 'football ideologies' that prevent him from using his football knowledge. In other words, KF is a real old fashioned coach and no 'amount of advancements in football technology' is going to change his football acumen.

He's going to wind up in the the college football hall of fame and likely Iowa's all time winning coach - he currently sits, what 3rd All-Time for B1G wins in the history of the conference. You go ahead and doubt his expertise and acquired football knowledge but we can all agree that you have a lot less of it.

 

[InGoodCo]

I don't know if I agree with you that Ferentz let his senior qb play injured because he was expendable and he cared more about his qb of the future.

PC, I definitely wasn't saying that, and if it came off as that, I certainly would like to clear that up. Had nothing to do with caring more about one player over the other. CJ was cleared to play, in a tight ball game going to the 4th - KF ran with his senior. He does have to care about the future development of his Freshman QB tho right? And put him in the best position to succeed? I don't think he would have got that in that game.

 

[HomerChampless]

And god forbid Ferentz letting CJ try to go back out there and not end his Iowa career on an INT. I just looked at the play by play, and I would have pulled him after the 3rd pick, he ran 3 plays after that. Cunningham is bitching about 3 plays, a handoff and 2 incompletions.

Maybe Cunningham was also complaining about other things in this Outback Bowl in a Trumpian kinda way - an inexact way.

Maybe Cunningham was complaining about the total mismatch Iowa's offense to Florida's defense in the game? Maybe Cunningham was also complaining about Iowa's offensive plan? Would Iowa's offensive lack of success been entirely Davis' fault or could KF share in some of that blame? How about Iowa's total lack of athleticism compared to Florida's? Who's to blame for Iowa's recruiting?

 

[HomerChampless]

He's <KF> going to wind up in the the college football hall of fame and likely Iowa's all time winning coach - he currently sits, what 3rd All-Time for B1G wins in the history of the conference. You go ahead and doubt his expertise and acquired football knowledge but we can all agree that you have a lot less of it.

And there are certain football situations where KF doesn't excel like, for example, spread offense or spread defense, press pass coverage (man-to-man pass defense) or using the athleticism of his players which are all harbingers in this new football era in college and pros. You know, it wasn't all that long ago KF told all his punt returners to let the ball bounce under most situations instead of catching it for fear of a fumble occuring.

You want one good reason why Iowa can't recruit well? It's that Iowa can only put OLinemen and TEs and occasionally the odd other position players in the NFL.

 

[InGoodCo]

Maybe Cunningham was also complaining about other things in this Outback Bowl in a Trumpian kinda way - an inexact way.

Maybe Cunningham was complaining about the total mismatch Iowa's offense to Florida's defense in the game? Maybe Cunningham was also complaining about Iowa's offensive plan? Would Iowa's offensive lack of success been entirely Davis' fault or could KF share in some of that blame? How about Iowa's total lack of athleticism compared to Florida's? Who's to blame for Iowa's recruiting?

Kirk Ferentz is to blame for all of it - but really, you question KF's knowledge of the game, but don't understand that there hasn't been an Iowa team in the history of time that had more athleticism then Florida?

You also don't realize that FL was a ranked team that just won the SEC east and their only loses that season were to #14 TN, ARK, #14 FSU and #1 Alabama?

Iowa was a total mismatch before they ever stepped on the field in that game.

 

[InGoodCo]

And there are certain football situations where KF doesn't excel like, for example, spread offense or spread defense, press pass coverage (man-to-man pass defense) or using the athleticism of his players which are all harbingers in this new football era in college and pros.

You want one good reason why Iowa can't recruit well? It's that Iowa can only put OLinemen and TEs and occassionally the odd other position players in the NFL.

3 of the last 4 starting QB's have been drafted. The league is LOADED with LB's and DB's from Iowa playing on Sundays. Please continue to drop the knowledge on us.