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@RobHowe , I'm not doing the "You need to ask the HARD QUESTIONS" routine, but do you think next week when Barta gets thrown to the piranhas that media members will ask specific questions about Brian and Seth Wallace? I'd really love to hear comment on those two situations. If Barta gave the "it's an ongoing investigation" stuff which he will, I'd love to see a reporter ask him about violating FERPA laws by posting a student's GPA. I have to think that if a prof did that, he wouldn't make it to the end of the school day. Simple corroboration by students would be all it took.
If my professors had posted my GPA they would have been hanging from the Hancher bridge.
 
Do I want you to think like me?

Not at all. I want you to think however makes sense to you. But in the context of a forum, you posted your viewpoints. I posted mine in response showing you how they make no logical sense. And instead of engaging in debate you threw up a JV response about ageism etc. Which reeks of last-ditch-effort, btw. You either saw that those arguments made logical sense and were angrily grasping at straws, or you unintelligently missed the point. I don’t think you’re unintelligent.

If I didn’t make sense in my original questions to you, please tell me how?

Why try to make a team of players fit the revkev73 mold when they’ve said they don’t believe in it? And if it’s beyond your boundaries of what’s acceptable why not move along to another team or another hobby? It’s not going to change no matter how much you or I talk about it in HN. This is here to stay.

You’ve asked me what my end game is, what’s your end game?! Are you going to scream it from the rooftops until you lose your voice? These players aren’t going to change what they’re saying. When they say you’re either with them or against them, regardless of whether you agree or not it isn’t going back to old Iowa football. You aren’t going to get these kids to accept your WASP views, man. I don’t see why you can’t just move on to some other team. Or even better support the one we have now.

I find it funny how Fryowa can relate to people having problems with people saying things that others find offensive, and he has probably offended every person on here at least a couple of times in the past.
Wasp views
Old white
Rid the fan base of people who suck
Whore in church
That's just off the top of my head from today.
It's ok for him to say offensive things, but nobody else can.
But maybe he doesn't understand that point of view.
The difference is most people understand they are offensive in some degree. They understand everyone is and don't take offense at everything or anything really.
 
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Do I want you to think like me?

Not at all. I want you to think however makes sense to you. But in the context of a forum, you posted your viewpoints. I posted mine in response showing you how they make no logical sense. And instead of engaging in debate you threw up a JV response about ageism etc. Which reeks of last-ditch-effort, btw. You either saw that those arguments made logical sense and were angrily grasping at straws, or you unintelligently missed the point. I don’t think you’re unintelligent.

If I didn’t make sense in my original questions to you, please tell me how?

Why try to make a team of players fit the revkev73 mold when they’ve said they don’t believe in it? And if it’s beyond your boundaries of what’s acceptable why not move along to another team or another hobby? It’s not going to change no matter how much you or I talk about it in HN. This is here to stay.

You’ve asked me what my end game is, what’s your end game?! Are you going to scream it from the rooftops until you lose your voice? These players aren’t going to change what they’re saying. When they say you’re either with them or against them, regardless of whether you agree or not it isn’t going back to old Iowa football. You aren’t going to get these kids to accept your WASP views, man. I don’t see why you can’t just move on to some other team. Or even better support the one we have now.
So, let me get this straight, as concisely as I can. You say that the Progressive Wave is upon us and that there is no way that is going to be stopped. Correct? And that I need to jump on board and ride the Woke Wave. Correct? And if I remember correctly not only did you say the Progressive Wave is here and growing stronger and can't be stopped...you also added that once it is "here" nothing and no-one will change it back to the way things once were. Correct? Such a view is historical stupidity: if things are changing, as you say they are, then what power will make things stay the way they will be when Progressive Nirvana chokes out all other voices and ways of thinking? You have some deeply Pollyanna Progressive views buddy. Inaccurate, unsubstantiated. Do you believe that once Progressive Nirvana arrives, it will be so amazing, it will stay forever? Like a thousand year reign? Would it survive because no other "voices" would be tolerated? Or what power will sustain it?

Let me ask you a couple of questions:

If you were Iowa's coach with this new wave of Progressive Players would you establish any rules? Any codes of conduct? Would you dare to call any plays? Any required clothing to wear for, game day, for example? What would they be if you were coach?

Why do you keep using such derogatory terms as WASP? It doesn't fit in with your Progressive World View. It is a put down, labeling one community as being all the same. "Those People" talk. I identify as Dutch American, please respect my roots and stop being so Rachel.

You have some big issues of your own to work on, labeling, assumptions, false logic, generalizations, a need to lecture others...get to it. And God be with you.
 
So you don’t know what they did outside what you read...

But you do know what they’ve done doesn’t rise to the legal standards of termination?

You just keep getting richer by the minute.

Lesson #1, I’ve you’ve ever been involved with or studied employment law, there are no “legal standards of termination” unless the person getting fired got fired because of a legally defined discriminatory reason as a member of a protected class.” That is a fact. It’s not disputable. Iowa is an at will state, and they could fire Brian because they thought his hair was out of style or he wore a shirt Barta didn’t like or he drove a Ford instead of a Chevy. Any reason they want. You don’t have to take my meager education as gospel, and please don’t. Do some research. You’ll find out for yourself. Firing “for cause” is a separate matter altogether, but that sails down the civil path and would get decided by a mediator, not a law judge. And since he’s a young, white, male with no disabilities, no dice. Your argument in those terms holds no water.

And since you’re bringing up “legal standards of termination,” let’s dig a little deeper into that...

Seth Wallace is accused of posting Jack Kallenberger’s GPA in the position room with the intent being to mock him for it. Several players have corroborated it on Twitter. I’d like to introduce you to FERPA. You can google it and do a whole lot of reading, but I’ll save you some trouble and let you know that if it happened, it’s a crime. Not a “we’d prefer if you didn’t do that,” or a “that wasn’t very nice,” thing...it’s a crime. As in, against the law. As in federal law. If my son goes to college, even if he’s seventeen, even if I’m paying for it out of my own pocket, I don’t get to see his GPA until he fills out paperwork saying I can see it. Seth Wallace committed a crime if he did that. Does that fall under your “legal standards of termination?”

I’d really like to read through your standards, btw, if you’d care to share them. They sound interesting.

Anywhoo, we’re getting away from the main point. And that main point is that you are no more than a JoePa denier. You’ve got a picture in your head of Eagle Scouts and apple pie KF and you can’t bear to think of life without Kirk being a saintly god like Joe Paterno was. You’ve seen him give interviews and that’s all you need. You don’t need to know what he’s like in an office alone with a player holding said player’s future above his head, because you’ve closed your mind and decided that KF is capable of no wrongs. Every single breath he takes is aimed at creating corn fed, yes ma’am, hay bailing American integrity machines, right?

I had the misfortune of meeting a whole bunch of cultish sheep like you when I took a trip to PA in ‘16. People who wouldn’t even give a thought to whether or not their David Koresh guy could make a mistake. It’s absołutely sickening that there might have been folks like you on a jury had Paterno not croaked, who had made up their minds with zero facts and innocent livelihoods on the line. I don’t know if you’re a jeebus guy or not, but doesn’t your book tell you about how sometimes dogs wear sheep’s jackets? Did you skip that part because you might be afraid that you got fooled?
The national and Midwestern media this week has generally portrayed Doyle as Kirk's fire and brimstone right hand man and Kirk himself as the perceived low key, even keeled complement to Chris. Saying or implying that they have been in cahoots with each other all the way along.

None of them are falling for Kirk's image. It got me thinking to Kirk's (late) arrival in Iowa City where one of the first things he did was bounce his best returning player (Kahlil Hill) for the season without ever really explaining why. His even keeled approach felt contrived and calculated to me then and I have always been a little suspicious about they way he portrayed himself in post game pressers and other media gatherings.

As time has gone on and he has become the emperor of his domain I let those early impressions fade a bit but the events of the past ten days have caused them to quickly flood their way back.
 
You don’t know me entirely. My daughter is an immigration lawyer in Brooklyn. She has marched in the protests. My son is in Huntsville, ALA. he has marched in the protests. My older daughter is in Ann Arbor. She is treating COVID 19 patients. I get it.

When I was a young man, I lived in the white picket fence world of Iowa football....but the Black boycott of 1969 destroyed that fence forever.

yes, I am an old man who lives in the past. You are 40 and in your prime. But someday you will be 67, like me. Change is hard.

There has been a narrative on this board that the State of Iowa is a racist State. I say, bullshit! my great great grandfather died in the Battle of SHILOH. Do you know which state had the highest per capital casualties in the Civil War, the great battle to free the slaves? IOWA. When I was a boy, we would visit the Capitol, and view the Civil War battle flags of the Iowa regiments. They were shredded with bullets. Young boys bled and died to achieve freedom for Blacks. It was a noble cause. Visit the civil war monuments at the grounds of the Iowa State capital in Des Moines. They are still there. It will humble you.Please, make that trip, it will chsnge your perspective forever about our State. We have been leaders in racial matters.

What am I trying to say? Race equality must happen. Total equality and color blindness. It can happen now. Gosh darn it, it must happen. I am a Republican, but so was Lincoln. This is a singular, seminal moment in time....the Iowa football team must seize it! My God, the whole country is watching Iowa. This is a great opportunity!

How does this actually apply to Iowa football? The State of Iowa can lead, as it did in the civil war. Embrace it behind Captain Kirk. Here are my suggestions:

1. . Name our field Slater Field at Kinnick Stadium. Do it!
2. Put BLM on our helmets.
3. If the black kids want to do it, kneel during the anthem. LEAD, like we did at the Battle of Shiloh.

Kirk, with all of his faults, has a good heart. Let the kids LEAD HIM. IKM gets it. Let our black players ignite this team. Defeat doubters. Defeat the racism. This can happen at Iowa. Iowa is a predominately white State, but we bled and died for an end to racism 155 years ago. Seize this opportunity now. Ferentz can do this. Even at 67 years of age, I can see this watershed moment. Come on Iowa fans, support Kirk and this team. Embrace a new paradigm. A United team is powerful. Sorry to ramble, but a moment like this...an opportunity like this...is rare.
 
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I don't want black players or any people to be treated unfairly. Two Sioux City police officers threatened to "take me out in the country and beat the hell out of me" when I was about 20 years old. We were pulled over for no reason, had done nothing, had not been drinking, nothing." It was a bit frightening and I couldn't understand why there were threatening me. I think they accused us of being drunk, but I hadn't had anything to drink in weeks. They were arrogant asses, on a power trip I suppose.

I don't like people slandered on social media or in any other form. Agree?

I do want to show support for the vast majority of law enforcement which is courageous and fair. As group they are being slandered by generalizations. "Those people."

How could we all show support for mistreated blacks and for honest law enforcement folks?


By supporting justice for black people who have been murdered by police officers. The Minneapolis cop and the other cops involved need to face serious time. The killer should be up for murder 2. If the very small percentage of cops who murder black people are convicted (or were convicted), we wouldn't be in the position we are right now.

Then, people would have faith that everyone is subject to the law, even police. I would hazard a guess that people (even black people) would be less terrified of police. Make the few bad ones go to jail. Let the great ones be great.

That's not what's happened.
 
By supporting justice for black people who have been murdered by police officers. The Minneapolis cop and the other cops involved need to face serious time. The killer should be up for murder 2. If the very small percentage of cops who murder black people are convicted (or were convicted), we wouldn't be in the position we are right now.

Then, people would have faith that everyone is subject to the law, even police. I would hazard a guess that people (even black people) would be less terrified of police. Make the few bad ones go to jail. Let the great ones be great.

That's not what's happened.

That's exactly what happened. They are up for murder in the 2nd.
 
That's exactly what happened. They are up for murder in the 2nd.


originally is was 3rd, but glad to hear it's 2nd.

They were only charged after mass protests. That is the issue here. Many murders have gone unprosecuted. This one was different. They wouldn't have been charged without it being on video, which sparked massive public outrage and protests across the globe.

This could be a time of real change for this issue.

It's disappointing to see many on this board think this is all about "people being too sensitive."
 
originally is was 3rd, but glad to hear it's 2nd.

They were only charged after mass protests. That is the issue here. Many murders have gone unprosecuted. This one was different. They wouldn't have been charged without it being on video, which sparked massive public outrage and protests across the globe.

This could be a time of real change for this issue.

It's disappointing to see many on this board think this is all about "people being too sensitive."

May 25th Floyd dies.
May 26th all officers involved are fired and the FBI is called in to investigate.
The video goes on social media and the riots begin that day.

I don't know, much, but I know the wheels of justice do not spin that fast. Especially on serious charges. It's not like writing out a speeding ticket and paying it online.
 
By supporting justice for black people who have been murdered by police officers. The Minneapolis cop and the other cops involved need to face serious time. The killer should be up for murder 2. If the very small percentage of cops who murder black people are convicted (or were convicted), we wouldn't be in the position we are right now.

Then, people would have faith that everyone is subject to the law, even police. I would hazard a guess that people (even black people) would be less terrified of police. Make the few bad ones go to jail. Let the great ones be great.

That's not what's happened.
This is true. There are abuses. Unions protect evil and incompetent police as in other professions. The "group protection racket" is also in place. If you Narc on a fellow cop, you are done, or dead. This dynamic is true in all professions. "We take care of our own."

That said, (On NPR IIRC) I listened to a guy who wrote a book about the murder by police in Baltimore of an African American. (Don't recall the details, 5 years ago?) He was very level-headed in his discussion and acknowledged abuses by law enforcement and the corrupt systems in some locations. However, in the midst of this, he said that police need to be given more protection from prosecution for some of their violent actions. He stated that just by the nature of their work and the fact that they are risking their lives to do what it right most of the time, in a very difficult and unclear world of right and wrong, the laws and their prosecutions need to account for this. He also explained that most people have no idea the unknown, violent, drug infested, gang infested, organized crime worlds police are confronted with. He spoke in favor of those abused and harmed by law enforcement, calling for justice, but also has a real world understanding of law enforcement's challenges in a world most of us know nothing about. It was a common sense discussion that impressed me. It wasn't black and white, good and bad, right and wrong. He was explaining dangerous chaos, anarchy, and how difficult and dangerous it can be.

In these situations, I would appreciate more honest and truthful news coverage about the backgrounds of the victims which might have led them to be arrested and harmed. How did they get into this confrontation with a police officer? What is their history of crime? Do they have a history of being dangerous and violent towards police? Were they on drugs during the incident? Why is this not often shared with the public? Are we afraid of truth on all sides? I believe more honesty in the media (living out their profession) would go a long way to solving many issues that face us. Now, it isn't a noble profession, but a propaganda mill that distorts the minds of millions. This is dangerous and is overlooked by most.

If a police officer kills someone with a choke hold, knowing the victim has a history of violence, then I might understand two things better: The officer did something wrong and I understand better why it happened. This without agreeing with the action.

So it seems...
 
Jesus motherchristafucker. It’s term limits.

Term limits are the Triforce. Term limits are the 1989 Upper Deck full set. Term limits are the Flux Capacitor.

Because of the times were in, I’ll give you guys my thought(s)

Single term limits would effectively solve every governmental problem out there. If there’s anyone out there who’d like to intelligently discuss politics, I would LOVE to do so, hit the site in my signature. I guarantee it will be civil...

Single terms with a salary cap of $10K. A law that says 1) politics can’t be a career, and 2) you can’t make enough money to live off being a congressperson would make GODdamn sure nobody got in the business unless he or she had something to accomplish.

You do it in most every post deliberately trying to swipe at Catholics and Christians in general with this one. You are consistent.
 
I promised myself I would not wade into this situation and I am probably going to wish I hadn't but....I have a couple things to say.

I don't like the politics on this board. The ideas and opinions about society as it is and needed changes should be had. In other forums. My opinion, Name-calling is not appropriate.

This thread is about the press conference yesterday so I have a couple comments about my opinion of the state of Iowa Football. I am one of those old fans and I am also female. Those facts color my opinions- I think that everyone matters and that this experiment we have been conducting since the founding of this country needs to be periodically and amended/improved as needed. I think this is one of those times.

I do not think discussion of any subject should be suppressed. I don't understand why certain subjects are blocked for discussion in Congress. There is no harm and could be great benefit to listen to the experiences and viewpoints of other people.

That is why I believe that even this negative situation with the Iowa Football program could lead to examinations of the state of college sports and end up being a positive.. From the comments of the players, they are very hopeful that the problems they have brought up with the culture of the program are going to be addressed and their opinions and experiences are valid. For some reason, this was not the case. I think the idea of a commission is a good one and I look forward to their conclusions

About the fate of individual coaches, the specifics of allegations will determine their fates. As FryIowa said, Iowa is an at will state. We don't know if any of the alleged behavior was addressed before. If so, that could be a different situation. I believe in education and that people can be educated about their behavior and make needed change. I just don't know what is appropriate yet. I do think the Hawks will set an example for other programs and per the players they are off to a good start,

GO HAWKS and so sorry for the length of this post
 
This is true. There are abuses. Unions protect evil and incompetent police as in other professions. The "group protection racket" is also in place. If you Narc on a fellow cop, you are done, or dead. This dynamic is true in all professions. "We take care of our own."

That said, (On NPR IIRC) I listened to a guy who wrote a book about the murder by police in Baltimore of an African American. (Don't recall the details, 5 years ago?) He was very level-headed in his discussion and acknowledged abuses by law enforcement and the corrupt systems in some locations. However, in the midst of this, he said that police need to be given more protection from prosecution for some of their violent actions. He stated that just by the nature of their work and the fact that they are risking their lives to do what it right most of the time, in a very difficult and unclear world of right and wrong, the laws and their prosecutions need to account for this. He also explained that most people have no idea the unknown, violent, drug infested, gang infested, organized crime worlds police are confronted with. He spoke in favor of those abused and harmed by law enforcement, calling for justice, but also has a real world understanding of law enforcement's challenges in a world most of us know nothing about. It was a common sense discussion that impressed me. It wasn't black and white, good and bad, right and wrong. He was explaining dangerous chaos, anarchy, and how difficult and dangerous it can be.

In these situations, I would appreciate more honest and truthful news coverage about the backgrounds of the victims which might have led them to be arrested and harmed. How did they get into this confrontation with a police officer? What is their history of crime? Do they have a history of being dangerous and violent towards police? Were they on drugs during the incident? Why is this not often shared with the public? Are we afraid of truth on all sides? I believe more honesty in the media (living out their profession) would go a long way to solving many issues that face us. Now, it isn't a noble profession, but a propaganda mill that distorts the minds of millions. This is dangerous and is overlooked by most.

If a police officer kills someone with a choke hold, knowing the victim has a history of violence, then I might understand two things better: The officer did something wrong and I understand better why it happened. This without agreeing with the action.

So it seems...
I totally agree.
I live out in the middle of nowhere. The police are our neighbors. This gives the police a sense of security and they are able to relax a little. It doesn't mean they are pushovers, it means that with fewer people they know you, have seen you around, recognize your car, ECT.
But I have family that have been in law enforcement around here and not everyone is "cool". Some run, some try to use stun guns, some are just absolutely huge and intimidating.
I heard about a domestic call many years ago and when the officer shows up, the guy is 6-7 and 300 pounds and he is throwing a hide a bed couch by himself off of the deck.
Turned out that the guy was just cool as could be and his wife was a raving lunatic.
But how do you know? It didn't look like that when the officer arrived on scene. I had much the same kind of experience once. I had 4 cars show up after my crazy ex called 911 and told them I had a gun. She didn't tell them it was locked up in a box with another trigger lock on it even. (I had kids in the house and was very careful). They show up and I am doing dishes with no shirt on I've got marks all over, they questioned us both and told her that she needed to find a different place to stay that night or she was going to jail. She said I'll get the kids stuff together and they said no, the kids are staying here with him.
But you just never know. Those are good stories. Not all situations go like that.
 
I totally agree.
I live out in the middle of nowhere. The police are our neighbors. This gives the police a sense of security and they are able to relax a little. It doesn't mean they are pushovers, it means that with fewer people they know you, have seen you around, recognize your car, ECT.
But I have family that have been in law enforcement around here and not everyone is "cool". Some run, some try to use stun guns, some are just absolutely huge and intimidating.
I heard about a domestic call many years ago and when the officer shows up, the guy is 6-7 and 300 pounds and he is throwing a hide a bed couch by himself off of the deck.
Turned out that the guy was just cool as could be and his wife was a raving lunatic.
But how do you know? It didn't look like that when the officer arrived on scene. I had much the same kind of experience once. I had 4 cars show up after my crazy ex called 911 and told them I had a gun. She didn't tell them it was locked up in a box with another trigger lock on it even. (I had kids in the house and was very careful). They show up and I am doing dishes with no shirt on I've got marks all over, they questioned us both and told her that she needed to find a different place to stay that night or she was going to jail. She said I'll get the kids stuff together and they said no, the kids are staying here with him.
But you just never know. Those are good stories. Not all situations go like that.
Decisions made "in the moment of chaos" are never easy and are subject to many mistakes. Everyone else gets to use 20/20 hindsight to evaluate Rachel and other issues. Most who do the unfair, after the fact, evaluations have never lived in such a world. Such topics are not a part of Gender Studies and Tolerance/Diversity degrees.
 
So you don’t know what they did outside what you read...

But you do know what they’ve done doesn’t rise to the legal standards of termination?

You just keep getting richer by the minute.

Lesson #1, I’ve you’ve ever been involved with or studied employment law, there are no “legal standards of termination” unless the person getting fired got fired because of a legally defined discriminatory reason as a member of a protected class.” That is a fact. It’s not disputable. Iowa is an at will state, and they could fire Brian because they thought his hair was out of style or he wore a shirt Barta didn’t like or he drove a Ford instead of a Chevy. Any reason they want. You don’t have to take my meager education as gospel, and please don’t. Do some research. You’ll find out for yourself. Firing “for cause” is a separate matter altogether, but that sails down the civil path and would get decided by a mediator, not a law judge. And since he’s a young, white, male with no disabilities, no dice. Your argument in those terms holds no water.

And since you’re bringing up “legal standards of termination,” let’s dig a little deeper into that...

Seth Wallace is accused of posting Jack Kallenberger’s GPA in the position room with the intent being to mock him for it. Several players have corroborated it on Twitter. I’d like to introduce you to FERPA. You can google it and do a whole lot of reading, but I’ll save you some trouble and let you know that if it happened, it’s a crime. Not a “we’d prefer if you didn’t do that,” or a “that wasn’t very nice,” thing...it’s a crime. As in, against the law. As in federal law. If my son goes to college, even if he’s seventeen, even if I’m paying for it out of my own pocket, I don’t get to see his GPA until he fills out paperwork saying I can see it. Seth Wallace committed a crime if he did that. Does that fall under your “legal standards of termination?”

I’d really like to read through your standards, btw, if you’d care to share them. They sound interesting.

Anywhoo, we’re getting away from the main point. And that main point is that you are no more than a JoePa denier. You’ve got a picture in your head of Eagle Scouts and apple pie KF and you can’t bear to think of life without Kirk being a saintly god like Joe Paterno was. You’ve seen him give interviews and that’s all you need. You don’t need to know what he’s like in an office alone with a player holding said player’s future above his head, because you’ve closed your mind and decided that KF is capable of no wrongs. Every single breath he takes is aimed at creating corn fed, yes ma’am, hay bailing American integrity machines, right?

I had the misfortune of meeting a whole bunch of cultish sheep like you when I took a trip to PA in ‘16. People who wouldn’t even give a thought to whether or not their David Koresh guy could make a mistake. It’s absołutely sickening that there might have been folks like you on a jury had Paterno not croaked, who had made up their minds with zero facts and innocent livelihoods on the line. I don’t know if you’re a jeebus guy or not, but doesn’t your book tell you about how sometimes dogs wear sheep’s jackets? Did you skip that part because you might be afraid that you got fooled?

Yeah...my wife is an employment law attorney. I know from which you speak. I don't like to talk to her about it, because she sees and deals with some messed up stuff. Like I said, I only know what I've read. Sure, Iowa is an at will state...they can fire people at will if they want to. Great point. Do you think that happens? The bigger question is whether they violated the University Code of Conduct...which is likely. My belief is that this would be handled, especially with Brian, with some sort of suspension or reprimand...similar to his tirade at halftime.

If the accusation you make about Seth Wallace is true. He's likely gone. I agree. I hadn't read that he was posting his grades as part of his ridicule of Kallenberger. What he had done is terrible...but this rises to another level. I was thinking suspension...but this will likely result in him being gone.

Cultish sheep...lol. Right. Because I have a lot of respect for KF, based on what he's built at Iowa...the fact that they don't have players in trouble...the fact that they instill discipline and they help create qualities these guys will use their entire lives. There are a lot of former players that speak very, very highly of him. He's not Bob Knight. He's not putting his hands on players...and he's not an outright dick. He's not Joe Paterno. Paterno kept child abuse hidden for YEARS. YEARS...because he didn't want to tarnish his program or legacy.

Your false equivalence of this situation and the Penn State shame is laughable. Racial comments and ridiculing a learning disability is reprehensible and shouldn't happen anywhere in a perfect world. Race is an issue in our country...and Iowa obviously isn't immune. But to group KF with Paterno is a stretch beyond comprehension, and somehow my support of KF rivals those who knew what Paterno did and still supported him...and still support him to this day. They want his statue back for Christ's sake...someone who hurt children.

My support of KF...it's not comparable dude...you are stretching your dick to make it look bigger. Your conspiracy theory mind is working overtime.
 
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