Just a reminder..
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Fans don't play the game. Even you'd agree with me that a player or players quitting on their team in a conference game is not good
ChosenChildren
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The NIT is relatively meaningless, except that it would be extra games for a very young team.
It's not like they made the executive decision to quit. All you have to do is get a little slower by only giving 90% effort. It happens at the end of every blowout. The thing that was abnormal is Northwestern still giving 100%. The reason you don't see a team go on a 16-0 run when they're winning by 15 late is because they normally check out too. Northwestern gave 100% until the very end. Or at least close to it. Iowa players did the same as most teams do when the game is out of reach.
I think it's pretty concerning if you don't give 100% in a conference game. Either they are losing confidence or aren't mentally tough.
Knight78
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I wouldn't say we are bad. I'd say we are wildly inconsistent. We have been so good that we beat a very strong Purdue team. We have been so bad that we were humiliated at Northwestern.
If you can't make the NIT I would say you are a bad team. Just my opinion
Knight78
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Offensively we did. We are currently averaging 81 points per game. Last year's team averaged 78 points per game. It's the defensive end where we suffer. Losing four starters who were used to playing together and were at least average defensively was very hard to replace.
We average 4 more turnovers per game, and give up 9 more points per game. IF we can keep our defensive intensity, we can do quite well. It all starts with Jok. He's our senior leader, and he needs to demonstrate defensive intensity. When he shows even a little bit the other players feed on that and we play better defense as a team. If he plays matador defense, so does everyone else.
It's funny I kept saying we would miss Mike and others the most on the defensive end and got mocked. I think a lot of people even said CW would be a better PG defender because of his length
It would be concerning if it wasn't the same as every other team in the history of sports.
Every team in the history of sports have quit during a conference game or gave up?
Everyone knew we would miss them defensivly. They just told you offense would help make up for it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Put last year's Uthoff on this year's team and we would be better than last year. We would be a couple points worse on defense and 10 points better on offense.
Read your post I quoted.
I think most teams are giving 100% all the time and they just have times when they play bad. I can't think of another team this year besides us that just flat out gave up in a game
You told me CW would be an upgrade defensively over Mike because of his length.
Wrong. I said he might be.
Knight78
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Huh? Pemsl played only 13 minutes. Moss played only 16 minutes. Jok played only 21 minutes. I don't know for sure but I'd say Jok only played about 7 minutes in the second half. There's three of our starters who played either just over half the game or less than half the game.
Most teams give 100% every game all game? Watch any 20 point game with 2 minutes left and tell me both teams are always still giving 100%.
I see you are admitting we gave up now. Does that mean I changed your mind or you knew the whole time and acted like you didn't?
I didn't know we quit during the game and that could be a concerning trait for the future
