Jeter "HBP"

woodyk1 said:
So true on Giambi sliding. The play is not made if he slides. I am not sure if the on deck hitter was helping him there, but when in doubt, he should slide.
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I think it's an easier out if Jeter doesn't touch the ball. The throw would have gotten to the catcher quicker and was on line.

However, regarding the OP, I don't have a problem with Jeter faking the HBP. He was doing what he was supposed to, which is get on base. All that old-timey "respect the game" stuff is crap. He did his job. I'd be ****** if one of the Cubs had the same situation happen to them and they admitted it didn't hit them.
 
jeter did everything right its up to the ref to decide

just think if a receiver catches a football he always acts like he catches it when they are close to the ground. you think a wr is going to get up and say well it was close and i didn't catch the ball!

you guys are looking into way to much if your saying you wouldn't do it your lying to yourself!
 
Jeter didn't do anything wrong. Have you ever seen someone slide head first into second and know he was tagged before he reached the base but was called safe? In the history of baseball, not one person who has had this happen said to the ump, "um actually I was out..."
 
Jeter did the right thing. Flip it the other way around, if he told the ump it hit the bat everyone would be saying that he is dumb for saying something. He is the captain of a baseball team, he is supposed to do whatever it takes to win, and by the way its not cheating. The ump made the call, is it not then cheating if you frame pitches, or when an ump calls a ball fair that is foul? It is part of baseball it happens. Any other player would do the same thing. Name one person that would tell the ump that the ball hit the bat.
 
hwkwyld said:
Anyone else see Jeter's acting job last night? Jeter squares to bunt, ball thrown inside hits the knob of the bat, and Jeter starts jumping around like he's been hit. Umpire awards him first, next batter hits a two run shot.

Two things - First, Fail on the part of the umpire, he should have seen it and he shouldn't have bought into Jeter's theatrics. Second, Jeter is a Doosch. I don't want to hear how classy and what a sportsman he is anymore. He's now on the same page with A-Rod, after trying to knock the ball out of the First-baseman's glove during the 2004 ALCS, in my book.

Yankees Suck!
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Two things - first, we need a class to teach people the correct spelling of dou che.

Second, I cant figure out why people are even talking about this. I hard it on Mike & Mike, SVP, Rome etc. Stuff like this happens in every single game in professional sports. How is this different than a WR claiming he caught a ball when he knows it hit the ground or an outfielder trapping a ball and holding it up like he caught it?

Non story in my opinion
 
The only problem I see with it is they didn't hit him hard enough, ah snap. No seriously, (cover my daughters' ears) baseball is my true love when you compare sports to some sort of actual romantic relationship (I find it weird, but I play along) and stuff like what Jeter did is what makes me love the sport. I caught all through high school and for several years after that and "playing" the umpires is a sport all in itself. Jeter deserves respect for what he has done while he has been a ball player, and I'm a Cubs fan (basically the equivalent of being a Cyclone Football fan).

P.S. If the Cubs win the World Series EVER I put the Over/Under on Santo dropping dead in the booth at 5 minutes. AND I did not go the The University of the Chicago Cubs so I'm a Tavern Cub.

Seriously though, I to this day go and sit in a dugout at night just because my mind becomes clear and the sounds and smells of my playing days overwhelm me. It might seem weird to some, but if you've ever played baseball take me up on this and find a field at night that is completely vacant of anyone else and just take it all in. I find it quite peaceful and theraputic.

And yes, I do understand that the first response of anyone that happens to read this post will be "Where the **** did that come from?" And my response is "Outta Left Field".
 
thejumper5 said:
It is Jeter's job to get on base, the ump's job to make the right call. The ump, not Jeter, was the one who didn't do his job. Selling a call (framing pitches, flopping in basketball, etc) happens in sport all the time, so to vilify Jeter for it is a little absurd.
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I think some of you are missing the point. The ball comes in, appears to hit Jeter and he recoils as if it did. The ump calls HBP and awards him first base. If Jeter just turns and jogs to first, no biggie. He did his job, got the call and gets on base. (and it's not a news story...other than he got the benefit of a questionable call)

It's the drama queen stuff AFTER the call was made, that rubs people the wrong way. The grimacing in pain, having the trainer come out and examine him. Enough already, you got the call...just jog to first base. It looked a bit like he was "showing up" the guy behind the plate. And that could come back to bite him if other umpires feel that way.

The flopping analogy is a pretty good one...but maybe not in the way you intend. Interestingly enough, that's something that can now draw a "T' now in basketball and a yellow card in soccer if the ref feels it's flagrantly unsportsmanlike.
 
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busabus114 said:
Two things - first, we need a class to teach people the correct spelling of dou che.

Second, I cant figure out why people are even talking about this. I hard it on Mike & Mike, SVP, Rome etc. Stuff like this happens in every single game in professional sports. How is this different than a WR claiming he caught a ball when he knows it hit the ground or an outfielder trapping a ball and holding it up like he caught it?

Non story in my opinion
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It's funny how you correct people's douc*e spelling but then you don't even proof read your own comment? You "hard" it? lol nice
 
ISUhawk said:
It's funny how you correct people's douc*e spelling but then you don't even proof read your own comment? You "hard" it? lol nice
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75% of the world doesnt know how to spell douc*e and it really bugs me for some reason. I'm not grammar guy. Im just grammer guy when it comes to the spelling of douc*e. Maybe that makes me a douc*e
 
Hey bottom line...if I was the ump...next time I was behind the plate and Jeter came up...the strike zone would be VERY large...like say...idk...the size of the stadium for one at bat...just to get that one back...bet Jeter would never do it again...lol...and he can't argue balls and strikes so it would be even better..."Sorry Derek...I didn't have my contacts in for that first at bat....lol"
 
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