ISU getting another transfer. ex USC PG Maurice Jones

Funny thing is 3 of fred's transfers have got in trouble at their previous school:
White, Allen, and Lucious. And they all stayed out of trouble.

Lamb was a walk-on trying to make that team, that didn't by the time he got in trouble.

Fred has also now shown the ability to recruit incoming freshman.

Try harder next time '33.
 
Funny thing is 3 of fred's transfers have got in trouble at their previous school:
White, Allen, and Lucious. And they all stayed out of trouble.

Lamb was a walk-on trying to make that team, that didn't by the time he got in trouble.

Fred has also now shown the ability to recruit incoming freshman.

Try harder next time '33.

It's weird that Fred had him listed on the roster all season if he didn't make the team. I didn't think they listed people who had tried out but failed to make the team on the official roster.
 
It's weird that Fred had him listed on the roster all season if he didn't make the team. I didn't think they listed people who had tried out but failed to make the team on the official roster.

He was on the team briefly, excuse me that I was wrong to an extent... He was not sitting in Hilton with the other transfers that long.

And I like how thats the only part you responded to. He was hardly involved with the team by the time he got in trouble.

I'll await your response to the fact Freddy has been recruiting freshman as well. Or the fact none of the transfers have gotten in trouble here.
 
He was on the team briefly, excuse me that I was wrong to an extent... He was not sitting in Hilton with the other transfers that long.

And I like how thats the only part you responded to. He was hardly involved with the team by the time he got in trouble.

I'll await your response to the fact Freddy has been recruiting freshman as well. Or the fact none of the transfers have gotten in trouble here.

Why the **** would I respond to the other parts of your post? You tried to refute my post...and failed. Did I ever claim Fred wasn't recruiting freshmen? No, congratulations, he's doing something every other coach in the country is doing as well. Just because you can form a cohesive thought on something unrelated to my post doesn't mean I need to respond to it.

To paraphrase my man Jay Cutler, ******* clone fans, I swear to God.
 
Well, if Hoiberg pulled off the conspiracy, I will applaud him for his ability to do it without the least bit of stink coming back on him. Well played Freddy.
 
Didn't Booker get into trouble recently. Why do ISU fans bring up Hubbard like it's comparable? He didn't even practice with the team, did he?
 
Didn't Booker get into trouble recently. Why do ISU fans bring up Hubbard like it's comparable? He didn't even practice with the team, did he?

Because the staff recruited Hubbard knowing full well his past history? I honestly don't have a problem with recruiting Hubbard - I hope the kid gets it together and gets a degree. I'm all for second chances. That said the kid aided a violent, invasive crime. This is where the glass houses/stones convo can happen.

Oops sorry Mcgee.

Yup, providing alcohol to a minor.
 
Because the staff recruited Hubbard knowing full well his past history? I honestly don't have a problem with recruiting Hubbard - I hope the kid gets it together and gets a degree. I'm all for second chances. That said the kid aided a violent, invasive crime. This is where the glass houses/stones convo can happen.



Yup, providing alcohol to a minor.

If he does end up playing for them, he won't play Iowa until his senior year. Next year he won't be qualified until part of the season is over with.
 
Very well aware what Hubbard did quite awhile ago, I'm simply asking why ISU fans think comparing a guy Iowa "recruited", and never actually played for Iowa, to players that come in and actually play for ISU, and guide them to NCAA appearances, is apples to apples.
 
I assume you're talking about White. Iowa fans mocked ISU/Hoiberg for recruiting him because of what he did before he was a Cyclone.

ISU fans mocked Iowa/Fran for recruiting Hubbard because of what he did before he was a Hawkeye.

Whether he or White actually played a game is inconsequential to that. That's why it's apples to apples. It's not like Fran didn't want Hubbard to actually play.

Now, whether all the back and forth is entirely pointless hypocritical, etc. is another conversation, and I think it's fairly obvious where I stand on it.
 
Very well aware what Hubbard did quite awhile ago, I'm simply asking why ISU fans think comparing a guy Iowa "recruited", and never actually played for Iowa, to players that come in and actually play for ISU, and guide them to NCAA appearances, is apples to apples.

Hubbard came to campus did he not? Kind of goes past the recruiting aspect, when he's actually in Iowa City, does it not?

Thats why it's brought up.
 
Hubbard came to campus did he not? Kind of goes past the recruiting aspect, when he's actually in Iowa City, does it not?

Thats why it's brought up.
So coming to Campus by 1 recruit with past problems, and not playing for our team, while leaving within the first month; is the same as recruiting now 4 players (White, Jones, Lucious, and Allen) who had past problems at their previous schools, while playing a complete season and leading their team to an NCAA tournament appearance? This is apples to apples? Really Wood? Your program has been drastically improved by these individuals, ours has not.
 
Looks like we can add Chris Babb to the transfers in trouble list. At least Fred suspended him for the exhibition game, that'll show him.
 
So coming to Campus by 1 recruit with past problems, and not playing for our team, while leaving within the first month; is the same as recruiting now 4 players (White, Jones, Lucious, and Allen) who had past problems at their previous schools, while playing a complete season and leading their team to an NCAA tournament appearance? This is apples to apples? Really Wood? Your program has been drastically improved by these individuals, ours has not.

So your issue isn't that they had trouble before coming to ISU, it's that they are helping ISU win games? I'm struggling here.

Babb did get suspended for the ex. and the first two games after that. Interesting thing is that he's one of the guys that never got in trouble his last stop.
 
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