Any word on what the suspension is for? 3 games for violating team rules makes me think failed drug test.
ISU getting another transfer. ex USC PG Maurice Jones
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Any word on what the suspension is for? 3 games for violating team rules makes me think failed drug test.
And in an ironic twist to this thread, guess who Babb lived with his first year at ISU?
Jon Lamb!
No, what I'm saying is that it's now 4 to 1 on recruits in the last couple years that have had questionable paths, and this guy couldn't even make grades at USC. Doesn't that strike you as odd that he can make grades at USC of all places. Are these the type of guys that you want FH recruiting, honest question? On top of that, the one guy Iowa "recruited" never made it to the team, but somehow he's a Hawkeye and viewed just the same. While all of ISU's guys have played, and made an NCAA push because of them. How this is apples to apples is beyond me. Since our coaches have taken over, only one team has had players getting in trouble again and again, and it's not Iowa. Railey, Bubu, Lamb, Mcgee, and now Babb.
You forgot Godfrey on the ISU list. But are you trying to claim Iowa didn't recruit Hubbard? Because Hubbard is definitely a strike against Fran, I was upset at the time because I didn't think Hubbard's talent was worth the risk. To stick your neck out on a guy with a past like his, I think it needs to be a player who is a Royce White like talent. But Fran has recovered from that with no long term damage
Let me answer with another question - are these guys that can help the team win? If the answer is yes, then I want him recruiting them. It's not like he's bringing in *ahem* violent criminals. I have always been of the opinion that in the current state of ISU MBB, we need to take some chances on guys in order to elevate the program. We took a chance on probably the worst offender of anybody he has brought in, Royce, and it worked out great both on and off the court. Took a chance on Godfrey and it was good on the court and bad off the court.
As for the academic side I could not be less concerned. ISU has set records for team GPA multiple times already in FH's 2 years. To suggest he doesn't take that seriously is ridicluous.
Anthony Hubbard made it to campus, took classes, and I assume practiced in the summer with his future teammates. He left of his own accord, and from all accounts Fran wanted him to stay. Again, you're concentrating on the wrong things here. You're problem is we're recruiting supposed bad eggs. Fran recruited, without a doubt, the worst egg of the bunch. So now your problem is that our "bad eggs" worked out and yours didn't? Well I'm sorry about that but that's Fran's problem, not ours.
Which player out of the ones listed should ISU have not recruited? Railey was a McD recruit with no prior history. Bubu was a high school local kid with no prior history and was a previous walk on under McD. Lamb I don't know a thing about nor do I care. McGee was a Juco kid with no prior history. Babb was a transfer who left PSU by his own accord with no prior history.
I'll be the first to admit ISU has had more off the court problems than Iowa under the new coach's respective tenures. However, none of the guys that got in trouble were the of the "red flag" variety. If you think Hoiberg's recruiting is leading to this, what should he do differently, and how would it make things better? So far I see only 3 guys that were questionable because of previous behavior - White, Lucious, and Allen. All have been fine in Ames. Jones had some grade trouble but so did Cougill, and I doubt Cougs strikes fear into the heart of the local populace, unless you own the town's Pizza Ranch.
H8IAST8
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Babb is a transfer...Man, seems like half the team has been kicked out or suspended...
Iowa State guard Chris Babb suspended 3 games
Iowa State guard Chris Babb suspended 3 games
deanvogs
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sportstalent
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I had no issue with the Hubbard recruitment after I read more details about what his role really was, not to excuse him for his role, should not have been involved in the first place. There was no way for any long term damage to Iowa as he never played for the Hawks, as I posted when he left it would have been bad had he played and was a huge part of Iowa's success. That never happened and no loss really as he left prior to any organized basketball activity.
As far as this whole topic, when a previous Iowa coach did essentially the same thing, bringing in transfers from JUCO and other schools, but won games nobody had issue with it. However, nobody talked about how much trouble his players were in and how many never qualified, or were removed from the program. You can't have it both ways, or get amnesia in this whole deal.
ISU/Iowa have chosen to build their programs in a different way, I personally am not a fan of how ISU has chosen to do so, but that is not my choice. Iowa has done it differently and I really think long term they are in a better position, again just my opinion. Time will tell, but I know that neither UNI/Drake will ever be the best teams in Iowa again for quite a while with the jobs that Fran/FH are doing.
