Is it me or is this board more active...

[mopkins]

I visit boards less after a loss like Michigan State where the offense was so pathetic that I just need to escape it all.

The offense is just pathetic. You have one of the most dynamic running backs in open space and you give him the ball repeatedly up the middle into an 8 man box instead of running screens/wheel routes to him. It makes zero sense why you would do that with your best talent and yet they do it over and over and over...

 

[revkev73]

"New" OC seems to be not making much of a "splash"...Thud might catch it...

 

[InGoodCo]

I visit boards less after a loss like Michigan State where the offense was so pathetic that I just need to escape it all.

The offense is just pathetic. You have one of the most dynamic running backs in open space and you give him the ball repeatedly up the middle into an 8 man box instead of running screens/wheel routes to him. It makes zero sense why you would do that with your best talent and yet they do it over and over and over...

Because it's worked... over and over and over. Iowa has had no issues running the ball up until this season except for a handful of exceptions. There are some issues on the Oline obviously and I would also add like you said, AW shouldn't be used as a 3 down back. But running into those 8 man boxes isn't something new. It's something that hasn't been working like it has in previous seasons.

 

[RobHowe]

I guess what you guys are saying is that response after wins or losses have become predictable. And now someone can say it's predictable like Iowa's game plan and everyone can argue for 10 pages of a thread.

 

[mopkins]

Because it's worked... over and over and over. Iowa has had no issues running the ball up until this season except for a handful of exceptions. There are some issues on the Oline obviously and I would also add like you said, AW shouldn't be used as a 3 down back. But running into those 8 man boxes isn't something new. It's something that hasn't been working like it has in previous seasons.

The thing is Wadley is not a bruising running back. Leshun Daniels is...Toren Young is. Wadley shouldn't be sent straight up the gut vs an 8 man front. He doesn't have the power to make the first man miss inside such a tiny space.

 

[InGoodCo]

The thing is Wadley is not a bruising running back. Leshun Daniels is...Toren Young is. Wadley shouldn't be sent straight up the gut vs an 8 man front. He doesn't have the power to make the first man miss inside such a tiny space.

We agree

 

[mopkins]

I guess what you guys are saying is that response after wins or losses have become predictable. And now someone can say it's predictable like Iowa's game plan and everyone can argue for 10 pages of a thread.

I disagree. I was active on the boards and optimistic after the Penn State loss. After the Michigan State loss I vanished for 2 days. There are losses I can live with and tolerate, and then there was the Michigan State game on Saturday

 

[InGoodCo]

I disagree. I was active on the boards and optimistic after the Penn State loss. After the Michigan State loss I vanished for 2 days. There are losses I can live with and tolerate, and then there was the Michigan State game on Saturday

You can't tolerate losing on the road to a B1G team that was favored and has been part of the CFB elite for the last decade?

 

[mopkins]

You can't tolerate losing on the road to a B1G team that was favored and has been part of the CFB elite for the last decade?

its the "how" they lost. The offense had nothing going and the play calling on offense was...offensive. Iowa gained as many yards vs Michigan State that Bowling Green and Western Michigan did. That is sad.

It was a boring game by the offense, an uninspired game, a frustrating game.

 

[InGoodCo]

its the "how" they lost. The offense had nothing going and the play calling on offense was...offensive. Iowa gained as many yards vs Michigan State that Bowling Green and Western Michigan did. That is sad.

It was a boring game by the offense, an uninspired game, a frustrating game.

Agree... It was a very frustrating game, but again, I got back to the 2 turnovers on an offense that was moving the ball and completely shot itself in the foot. I go back to over throws and drops as much as I do the play calling. I can also tolerate losing to another B1G team on the road that is on similar footing to Iowa. It happens quite often in college sports.

 

[mopkins]

Agree... It was a very frustrating game, but again, I got back to the 2 turnovers on an offense that was moving the ball and completely shot itself in the foot. I go back to over throws and drops as much as I do the play calling. I can also tolerate losing to another B1G team on the road that is on similar footing to Iowa. It happens quite often in college sports.

The turnovers can't be overlooked. I 100% agree with you there and I think it is being overlooked big time. 2 fumbles inside the Michigan State 35 yard line is going to result in a loss most of the time.

 

[BVHawk95]

The turnovers can't be overlooked. I 100% agree with you there and I think it is being overlooked big time. 2 fumbles inside the Michigan State 35 yard line is going to result in a loss most of the time.

Just as telling is who they were by: So QB and a true Fr WR. For now, I can chalk that up to inexperience. If it persists, we have a big problem.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

I think people tend to write more (vent) after a loss than they do after a win.

Depends on the season, though, too. I'm betting this board was busy two years ago when the Hawks were 12-0. A win over someone like Northwestern in a 7-5 type of season, probably not so much.

Yes, and half of THAT traffic was the Usual Suspects dumping on Iowa's schedule, letting everyone know when the Hawks got a lucky break, and/or letting everyone know how the hawks should have put every opponent on ice by halftime.

 

[Fryowa]

You can't tolerate losing on the road to a B1G team that was favored and has been part of the CFB elite for the last decade?

That was a bad loss. Take out those 2 dumb turnovers and the 8th grade punting and we win.

The way Iowa played against Penn State would have beaten 12 out of the 14 big Ten teams, IMO.

The way they played Saturday would have lost to 12 out of 14.

 

[InGoodCo]

That was a bad loss. Take out those 2 dumb turnovers and the 8th grade punting and we win.

The way Iowa played against Penn State would have beaten 12 out of the 14 big Ten teams, IMO.

a bad loss is losing to a team you shouldn't. MSU was the favorite on Saturday. When you aren't favored to win, I don't know how you can call it a bad loss.

 

[Fryowa]

a bad loss is losing to a team you shouldn't. MSU was the favorite on Saturday. When you aren't favored to win, I don't know how you can call it a bad loss.

It's not that black and white. Betting odds are wrong just as much as they're right. Uncertainty is why gambling exists.

I know how I can call it a bad loss; I mentioned it in my post above. take out a few sloppy, amateurish plays and the Hawks win. That's bad.

And if you sit here and say that you honestly felt the same about the Penn State loss as you did about MSU then I'm going to call you a liar.

 

[CJHawkeye]

a bad loss is losing to a team you shouldn't. MSU was the favorite on Saturday. When you aren't favored to win, I don't know how you can call it a bad loss.

A 3 point spread favoring the home team means its a toss-up. If MSU was favored by 14.5 then the point you keep vomiting back up would be valid, but they weren't and it isn't.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

That was a bad loss. Take out those 2 dumb turnovers and have better punting and we win.

The way Iowa played against Penn State would have beaten 12 out of the 14 big Ten teams, IMO.

The way they played Saturday would have lost to 12 out of 14.

 

[InGoodCo]

It's not that black and white. Betting odds are wrong just as much as they're right. Uncertainty is why gambling exists.

I know how I can call it a bad loss; I mentioned it in my post above. take out a few sloppy, amateurish plays and the Hawks win. That's bad.

And if you sit here and say that you honestly felt the same about the Penn State loss as you did about MSU then I'm going to call you a liar.

It's black and white when it's a road B1G game against a competent opponent. The only bad losses in the B1G this season would be to IL or Rutgers. A bad loss is losing at home to North Dakota State, losing to ISU ever, losing to a MAC school (all of which Iowa has done). You wanna call those bad? I am with you.This was just a loss IMO which doesn't make it feel any better, just IMO more justifiable when you take into consideration where it was and who it was against. When we look back at KF's bad losses while at Iowa, I doubt this even makes the list.

I don't feel the same about the 2 losses, but both were something I wouldn't really consider a "bad" loss. I reserve those for when they actually happen.

 

[SheagleHawk]

after losses than wins?

The turnovers can't be overlooked. I 100% agree with you there and I think it is being overlooked big time. 2 fumbles inside the Michigan State 35 yard line is going to result in a loss most of the time.

The problem is other teams win even after losing the turnover battle. If Iowa loses the turnover battle we lose 99% of the time. If a few things go wrong it's quite possible Iowa loses to Bumfuck State while having 5 or 6 guys who will be drafted that year. It's inexcusable and absolutely fucking maddening that Kirk ball has a razor thin margin for error. This also makes games absolutely snorefests to watch bc we take zero risks. 3 and out, flip the field and hope our usually good-enough defense carries our offense's pathetic ass. 7 and 10 point wins over the bottom of the B1G West feel like losses anyway.