Iowa vs ISU sweet 16...

ForeverIowan said:
Simply put...I don't care! I think it's great that Hoiberg recruits nationwide from all three ranks (HS, Juco, Transfer). Keep the great players coming! You are clearly the one who cares. You rattle off all the statistics and numbers and spend all the time researching it. Clearly bothers you and you can smell the jealousy. "Uhhh duhhhrrr me researched and he there Hoiberg had 13 incoming transfers and 10 others leave the program in the last X years."
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deanvogs said:
You don't care, but you post non stop on HN??? YEAHHHHHHH RIIIIGHHHHTTTTTT, I mean that makes total sense. What did I research? Don't hate on my because my paper route has instilled a wicked good memory in me. I don't how many exactly have come and gone (nobody can remember exactly how many as the number is crazy high), I just know that I can think of at least 10 each way (coming and going). Just as I know that Iowa has lost 3 players now under Fran, and he has signed 2 transfers. If you need some help with your memory skills, I am hiring people to help me with my paper route. I do require that you have at least a 5th grade education level (ISU degree does NOT qualify) and you must have your own transportations (bike).
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You both sound ******* dumb.
 
BryceC said:
Why not?
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Because it rarely works out soooo smoothly. I know ISU fan now thinks that nothing can go wrong, but that just isn't the case. If you bring in the wrong guy, or he doesn't buy in, and causes problems, it can derail the whole season. Just imagine that Royce White flakes out the last 2 weeks of the season like he did just a few months later. Bye bye NCAA, bye, bye all the good will, bye bye Transfer U.

You can count on one hand the guys that have been able to build programs like this. That is why I wouldn't want to, because I'd just be waiting for the other shoe to drop. I get why ISU fan isn't worried about that, as I think it is obvious at this point that it won't matter at ISU even if it did derail a season.....there has been way more upside than downside to date an Transfer U.
 
deanvogs said:
Because it rarely works out soooo smoothly. I know ISU fan now thinks that nothing can go wrong, but that just isn't the case. If you bring in the wrong guy, or he doesn't buy in, and causes problems, it can derail the whole season. Just imagine that Royce White flakes out the last 2 weeks of the season like he did just a few months later. Bye bye NCAA, bye, bye all the good will, bye bye Transfer U.

You can count on one hand the guys that have been able to build programs like this. That is why I wouldn't want to, because I'd just be waiting for the other shoe to drop. I get why ISU fan isn't worried about that, as I think it is obvious at this point that it won't matter at ISU even if it did derail a season.....there has been way more upside than downside to date an Transfer U.
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It's never worked because no one has ever really tried it before. Hoiberg is an innovator. Better question...where has it failed? Seems to be working pretty well for Gonzaga as well. Wesley and Wiltjer are pretty dang good. Izzo seems to be on board. He took two transfers last year. Heck even coach K knew he needed some help last year and signed Rodney Hood. All I see is success stories. Where have teams been torn apart by transfers??

Maybe...just maybe...thats something that you say because Fran can't land a stud transfer??
 
BryceC said:
Why not?
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Because you caught lightning in a bottle with FH......D-vogs is correct there are only a few coaches who can pull this off.....Congrats, you have one of them. If you gamble with this type of approach and it backfires your program is a trainwreck.
 
ForeverIowan said:
It's never worked because no one has ever really tried it before. Hoiberg is an innovator. Better question...where has it failed? Seems to be working pretty well for Gonzaga as well. Wesley and Wiltjer are pretty dang good. Izzo seems to be on board. He took two transfers last year. Heck even coach K knew he needed some help last year and signed Rodney Hood. All I see is success stories. Where have teams been torn apart by transfers??

Maybe...just maybe...thats something that you say because Fran can't land a stud transfer??
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You actually think that Gonzaga BUILT A FREAKING PROGRAM ON TRANSFERS? You think Duke is building a program on transfers? JFC dude, you are the biggest joke on this board, and you have zero freaking BB knowledge whatsoever. They are SUPPLEMENTING what they have already in place, and had already built. Quit trying to compare bringing in a transfer or two and what Hoiberg as done. Are you a complete *ucking dipsh!t. If you can't see the difference between bringing in over a dozen transfers and bringing in a couple when you are firmly established, then you are the dumbest person on the planet.
 
trj said:
Because you caught lightning in a bottle with FH......D-vogs is correct there are only a few coaches who can pull this off.....Congrats, you have one of them. If you gamble with this type of approach and it backfires your program is a trainwreck.
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Why do Clowns get their panties in a bunch about this. Do they even realize it is a bigger complement to Fred that he is one of the few who could actually do this? They are so freaking dumb, they think every team that takes a transfer = Transfer U now.
 
deanvogs said:
You actually think that Gonzaga BUILT A FREAKING PROGRAM ON TRANSFERS? You think Duke is building a program on transfers? JFC dude, you are the biggest joke on this board, and you have zero freaking BB knowledge whatsoever. They are SUPPLEMENTING what they have already in place, and had already built. Quit trying to compare bringing in a transfer or two and what Hoiberg as done. Are you a complete *ucking dipsh!t. If you can't see the difference between bringing in over a dozen transfers and bringing in a couple when you are firmly established, then you are the dumbest person on the planet.
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How fired up are you?? How cute! I love how you give zero credit to any four year players. Iowa State was built BACK way more by Melvin Ejim Georges Niang Monte Morris and Naz Long than any transfers. I understand your frustration we've got the better four year players by far and that's before you even bring up Royce White Will Clyburn DeAndre Kane and BDJ. Keep your chin up partner!
 
deanvogs said:
Why do Clowns get their panties in a bunch about this. Do they even realize it is a bigger complement to Fred that he is one of the few who could actually do this? They are so freaking dumb, they think every team that takes a transfer = Transfer U now.
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Insecurity??? Desperate to be one of the cool kids? I dunno, man. If I were a clonefan(thank gawd I am not) I would just sit back and enjoy the moment I wouldn't try to justify it or spin it because it won't last forever. H*ll, it may not last 5 years.
 
ForeverIowan said:
How fired up are you?? How cute! I love how you give zero credit to any four year players. Iowa State was built BACK way more by Melvin Ejim Georges Niang Monte Morris and Naz Long than any transfers. I understand your frustration we've got the better four year players by far and that's before you even bring up Royce White Will Clyburn DeAndre Kane and BDJ. Keep your chin up partner!
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I ain't mad, I just ain't delusional like you......White single handedly made the NCAA tourney. Clyburn, Babb, Lucious, and McGee were the team the following year. ISU would have been NIT bound without Kane and Hogue last year. With all the "awesome" 4 years players Freddie has brought in, da Clowns would have made exactly 0 NCAA's without Transfer U.

I think Fred has brought in solid guys (Niang, Morris and Long), but that is it. Ejim was a McD recruit, and even if you throw him in those 4 don't make a NCAA tourney to date without the Transfer Glue of Allen, White, Scotty C, Babb, Lucious, McGee, Clyburn, Hogue, Kane, McKay, BDJ, Nadar, and next year Cooke, Williams, and Burton. It is funny that you actually think 3 or 4 guys are greater than 3 times that many.

I don't know why you even get mad about straight up facts. You don't need to be delusional, ISU is good....just say the words TRANSFER U, and you will feel better. All the national announcers call them that, just hop on board and say it......TRANSFER U.
 
Straw poll which would be the better team for ISU? It's HS recruits

Morris, Thomas, Custer, Niang, Georgios

Or TRANSFER U?

BDJ, Cooke, Nadar, Hogue, McKay, Williams, and Burton


Ok, it is a trick question, the only answer and it is TRANSFER U
 
deanvogs said:
Because it rarely works out soooo smoothly. I know ISU fan now thinks that nothing can go wrong, but that just isn't the case. If you bring in the wrong guy, or he doesn't buy in, and causes problems, it can derail the whole season. Just imagine that Royce White flakes out the last 2 weeks of the season like he did just a few months later. Bye bye NCAA, bye, bye all the good will, bye bye Transfer U.

You can count on one hand the guys that have been able to build programs like this. That is why I wouldn't want to, because I'd just be waiting for the other shoe to drop. I get why ISU fan isn't worried about that, as I think it is obvious at this point that it won't matter at ISU even if it did derail a season.....there has been way more upside than downside to date an Transfer U.
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In part it works in L'ames and not Iowa City because of the nature of the police force in each city. In Iowa City, the cops get a bonus for every college athlete they can haul in. In L'ames, a miscreant ball player need only dial 911 to summon a police officer to take him home when he has had too much to drink. I can think of no other way that the Mayor has been able to keep that pack of thugs out of jail and eligible to play.
 
Frans four star recruits: Gessell and Woodbury (both huge busts)

Freds four star recruits: Niang.Morris.Thomas.Custer.White.Booker.Luscious.Allen.McKay.Burton.BDJ

Mercy!! Like I said can't win if you can't recruit. Keep on working hard Fran you got this don't give up.

As focused as Freddy is on the transfer market he has still landed four 4 star HS kids compared to Frans 2. Now that should be alarming!
 
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ForeverIowan said:
Frans four star recruits: Gessell and Woodbury (both huge busts)

Freds four star recruits: Niang.Morris.Thomas.Custer.White.Booker.Luscious.Allen.McKay.Burton.BDJ

Mercy!! Like I said can't win if you can't recruit. Keep on working hard Fran you got this don't give up.

As focused as Freddy is on the transfer market he has still landed four 4 star HS kids compared to Frans 2. Now that should be alarming!
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Thanks for proving my point. Freddie has mined the Tranfer market to build his program, end of story. Just repeat after me, Transfer U. Just do it once, you will fell lots better. Be proud of who you, embrace it, love it. I mean you are winning games, winning Big12 conference tournies, and getting to a sweet 16. Just call a spade a spade dude......ISU is Transfer U, heck you are going to hear it about 100 times tomorrow and through the rest of the tournament.
 
deanvogs said:
Thanks for proving my point. Freddie has mined the Tranfer market to build his program, end of story. Just repeat after me, Transfer U. Just do it once, you will fell lots better. Be proud of who you, embrace it, love it. I mean you are winning games, winning Big12 conference tournies, and getting to a sweet 16. Just call a spade a spade dude......ISU is Transfer U, heck you are going to hear it about 100 times tomorrow and through the rest of the tournament.
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This is getting seriously pathetic. You may want to get checked out for Asperger's.
 
clicheusername3 said:
This is getting seriously pathetic. You may want to get checked out for Asperger's.
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There is only one pathetic poster here, and it is the Clown troll posing as a Hawk fan. I mean I know you are just trying to troll me, but I hope you have enough self awareness to understand how truly pathetic you look doing what you are doing.

It is also good to know that calling Moo U, Transfer U really, really, really gets under your skin. I thought I was only trolling Foreverd0uche, but I have the added bonus of getting to you as well.
 
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