Iowa offers Pat Ingram

Two years of data?

In Fran's first year, he brought in two players that ended the season as two of the Iowa's three best players.

His second class has yet to play a game, but includes a top 150 kid. The little data we have, is that Fran instantly upgraded Iowa's talent.

You ask if most school have assistant who worked as a Nike representative, and I don't even know if this is a serious question. No, most school don't have coaches who worked for Nike. The man was brought it for his connections.

According to Tom Kakert on the On Iowa Podcast, Dillard is the reason Iowa ended up with Aaron White and why Iowa knew about Hubbard, Dillard is why Kyle Meyer committed, and Dillard is why Cezar even visited. He has been the key recruiter.

The idea that Fran hired a Nike guy who hasn't coached since 2004 to be a "developmental assistant," is stupid.


On a side note, Speraw had the connections to help Iowa find Cartwright.

Ya see...you're talking about finding diamonds in the rough, which is fine and important to a program like Iowa's. I'm talking about hitting a point where we start landing our top prospects. Or are you really stating that we are hitting our top prospects now? Cause if you are....well I can't help ya.

Yes...Dillard got Cezar to visit. I missed the part where he committed, and you missed the point as usual. By the way, I've been on record saying Dillard is our top recruiter...not the barracuda. It won't be that way in two years, but as of now it is. Once Francis gets to that 2013 class, he will be our top recruiter. Assuming we have a productive season this year.
 
Iowa still has to pay Lickliter $600K a year for the next three years. Fran's buyout clause dictates that he gets paid half of his salary for the remaining years on his contract in three annual installments (works out to about $830K per year if fired after the upcoming season). That means Iowa would be paying two guys over $1.4M a year NOT to coach. Anyone who thinks Iowa would have the budget to hire a big name coach on top of those buyout payments is smoking crack. Any hiring of a big name coach would have to wait until at minimum Lickliter's buyout expires. No matter what happens over the next three years, Fran is definitely safe because of that... to say nothing of the fact that firing coaches that often would be a huge obstacle in convincing a prospective coach that Iowa is committed to honoring his contract.
 
I also expect that Fran will get more time than Lick even if he continues to finish near the bottom of the league. However, I could also see Barta requiring some things such as staff changes. I also expect Fran might be flexible along those lines if his assistants are not able to start closing on better players.

Really hope Francis is able to get things going for 2013.
 
Iowa doesn't necessarily need a big name coach. They need a coach that understands recruiting at the high-major level. We have now hired three coaches in a row from the mid-major ranks. How about trying a high-major assistant for once?
 
Fran was a long term assistant at ND. He understands high major recruiting. Now, if what you are saying is it might be good to hire a guy who has actively been in on high major recruits, that would be reasonable.
 
Two years of data?

In Fran's first year, he brought in two players that ended the season as two of the Iowa's three best players.

His second class has yet to play a game, but includes a top 150 kid. The little data we have, is that Fran instantly upgraded Iowa's talent.

You ask if most school have assistant who worked as a Nike representative, and I don't even know if this is a serious question. No, most school don't have coaches who worked for Nike. The man was brought it for his connections.

According to Tom Kakert on the On Iowa Podcast, Dillard is the reason Iowa ended up with Aaron White and why Iowa knew about Hubbard, Dillard is why Kyle Meyer committed, and Dillard is why Cezar even visited. He has been the key recruiter.

The idea that Fran hired a Nike guy who hasn't coached since 2004 to be a "developmental assistant," is stupid.


On a side note, Speraw had the connections to help Iowa find Cartwright.

I usually agree with what you say, but you are not correct here. Francis has done nothing to prove he is a barracuda other than be annoying on Twitter. Dillard may have found some players but none seem to come from his time on the Nike circuit. Speraw is a good addition due to his experience, but the other two guys have to be top notch recruiters and that certainly isn't the case at Iowa. Assistants are just as important as head coaches now, and IA doesn't have a true barracuda yet on the staff.
 
Recognizing the situation that the Iowa program was in, I think Fran's plan to bring on all the experience in the assistants was to be able to recruit solid basketball players with above average athleticism. It makes sense when you look at how Iowa developed as a team as the season went along. The one thing about building a program this way is it is almost like building from scratch...would that not be a fair statement for Iowa basketball, just start over. There was nothing left in the cupboard, even if Fuller would have stayed. That would have meant that Iowa would have two solid players that may start for a mid-level Big Ten team and be top bench performers for a good Big Ten team.
Iowa should give Fran about 6 years to get the job done, at least, unless it is blatantly obvious that Iowa will never get better after year 4. In that time, if Iowa improves with the types of talent they are getting and start sniffing the NIT/NCAA by filling their roster with good, not spectacular players, better players will come. Unless I am mistaken, wasn't Iowa rated as one of the Top 25 basketball jobs prior to the previous staff?
Iowa has a solid NCAA history and has had some excellent players, so the new facilities to be able to showcase that will do nothing but help the ignorant youth who have watched the last decade of Iowa basketball and have had to hear all the negativity around the program.
This Ingram kid would be a nice addition, he should be able to play both guard spots, something Iowa really needs more players to do if they can't get a pure PG in this class. Even if Ingram doesn't turn into an all-conference player, but is a good spot starter, or a player that can provide a significant spark off the bench, won't that help? Iowa hasn't had depth for as long as I can remember, probably since 2005-06...that is sad. The one thing that I could look forward to with Iowa in the offseason is hear what players got arrested or ruled academically ineligible...then it turned into who was going to walk away two weeks after the season was over.
Fran has built programs and I could care less if it is at the mid-major level, at least he has done it. This first year of full recruiting has been a learning curve when a coach is trying to recruit against Izzo, Painter, Weber, Belien and others and that is just in the Big Ten. For some time, I have felt that Peter Jok and Akoy Agau are the most important Iowa recruits in many years. Fran will get players to come to Iowa and will fill scholarships, but I don't think he wants to fill them for the sake of filling them. The problem is, by not getting someone that eats into depth and development of the current players. With the latest scholarship opening up, I hope he saves three for the 2013 class, but can fill all the rest for 2012 as Jok/Agau could be players that are impact players from day one. There is also a kid near me named Jackson Lamb, he is a growing 6-7 athletic forward, but here is the thing, he plays little AAU because he was a starter on his HS baseball team at CF/P and ended this season as their leadoff hitter and lost in the State Championship. This is one of those hidden gems to keep an ear out for. Lamb is still growing and is working hard on his whole game and a 2013 kid.
 
Our build is going to take some time and patience.

Winning programs have multiple ingredients..
- Solid, unrelenting fan support (not irrational panicKing, fly-off the handle, bandwagon jumpers) -> Not a check mark here .... fans need to check themselves and buy in long-term
- Money -> check mark here...... but not enough dollars to be stupid either
- Head Coach with charisma and passion -> check mark here for Fran
- Quality Assistants -> not certain here yet
- Recruiting Base -> Iowa has some quality players but not vast quantities and there is competition from within and outside the state
- Facilities -> check mark here now with new practice facility
- Tradition/Reputation -> no longer a check mark here ... long time since glory days

It can happen but patience and long-term positive support will be required. There will be some misses and heartache along the way BUT remember WHEN WE GET IT BACK TO VALUE IT THIS TIME.....
 
If y'all didn't watch the 2nd highlight video posted in this thread - the one of Ingram's aau team - don't utter another word about him. Kid has mad hops and can finish extremely well. I will be VERY surprised if he doesn't start to garner more attention.

Fran has an eye for talent that none of us possess.
 
Here is an article on this kid...doesn't sound like he plays below the rim.

HawkeyeReport.com - Adidas Invitational: Coaches finally take in the action

I hope so. The few videos that are out there for public consumption don't show that...but we aren't the ones looking at him in person several times.....

btw -- sick dunk by Kyle Meyer in this clip.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL9KCubiWVw]‪Indiana Elite VS. Atlanta Celtics at the Adidas Invitational‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
 
No, the problem is he is NOT coming to Iowa. I know his step-brother and he texted me earlier that "Mike was blown away with Stanford". Academics are HUGE to Mike as is a stable program. Well guess what, Stanford has both plus a pretty d@mn good recruiting coach and former player (and good location doesn't hurt either). Iowa's academics are great but not Stanford quality and I don't even have to mention the program differences. Mike Montgomery was a legend and Dawkins is a big name coach. He will announce his decision in the next few months and for those who think he is a lock for Iowa, just don't be shocked if he goes elsewhere. I've already accepted this.

EDIT: I apologize, I meant Dawkins but was thinking Monty regarding Stanford history. Meant Dawkins prowess on recruiting trail and history as a college player.

Interesting.
 
Someone should keep track of all the posters here who were **** sure of something and the opposite happened. Is Montgomery still the Stanford coach?
 
the word on Ingram the last couple of weeks is that, no, he's not explosive in an above-the-rim sense, but that he has great lateral quickness and is explosive getting up and down the court.

some posters on HALO indicated that Fran thought he was the best on-the-ball defender they saw all summer. His role would be lockdown guy on 2s and backup point.

I'd hate to lose him, but it's sort of an improvement in recruiting when a 3-star says they'd rather go elsewhere for more PT. Geesh...it seems like the last five years 3 star kids have been looking at Iowa as a place to get PT.
 
Someone should keep track of all the posters here who were **** sure of something and the opposite happened.

Well let's not forget to keep track of the people who were correct as well. Like those of us who said MG and AW would end up Hawks and Abrahamson wouldn't. :)
For the record, I have no clue on Ingram. I would guess St. Louis but that's just a guess.
 
Well let's not forget to keep track of the people who were correct as well.

haha good luck with that! :)
I've made a few boner predictions/comments and sometimes that's all that people remember. They forget the correct predictions or insightful comments that are made. It's too bad, but that's the way it goes.
 

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