Iowa OC/DC Rankings Since 1999

[Adam]

Wisconsin does pretty well with a pretty similar offense. Wisconsin actually runs the ball a lot more than Iowa but they do it more effectively. Wisconsin is usually running the ball close to 65-70% of the plays and we're at 55-60%. They typically have much bigger OL and use less finesse blocking style. Those years we're over 60% are also our best years (2002,2003,2008,2015). Given we're also able to run effectively those years.

Iowa has to run the ball well to make the machine work. The juxtaposition here is that everyone seems to have decided to take our run game away by loading the box and we have struggled mightily to burn them for it with the passing game. We don't need to throw for 300 yards. We need to be able to land a couple mid to deep routes off of play action.

 

[Adam]

^ Those bastards also have a talent for finding great RB after great RB.

Taylor is pretty legit, but the only other RB that they have had for awhile that was worth his weight in the NFL was Melvin Gordon. Wisconsin's running backs always look so good because of the amazing OL they put out every year.

 

[Adam]

Hey, I hate his hair style. Game one it looked like he was sporting the North Korea Cut. NOT stylish or attractive by any measurement.

Maybe he should try wearing a fedora. BF has the look to pull off 1930's gangster. Hopefully for our Halloween game Brian will come out in a fedora and a tailored pin stripped zuit suit.

 

[Knight78]

Yep I'm old enough to remember those days that's why watching our "paint dry" offense triggers epileptic seizures. BTW I'm a fan of taking every second to run plays. I'm NOT advocating putting our D out there for 120 plays so I understand controlling tempo.

Kind of like what Iowa Central CC used to do when my brother in law played for them. Call the play in, sit in the huddle until 8 seconds left on the play clock. Then all 11 guys sprint to their positions, the quarterback yells "Ready.... GO!" No audibles, no play changes, single wing offense (a throwback offense even then). He used to say they might wait for a 2-count once or twice a game; where the quarterback yells "Ready...GO...GO!". And they would invariably get an offsides call against the defense.

 

[hwk23]

Kind of like what Iowa Central CC used to do when my brother in law played for them. Call the play in, sit in the huddle until 8 seconds left on the play clock. Then all 11 guys sprint to their positions, the quarterback yells "Ready.... GO!" No audibles, no play changes, single wing offense (a throwback offense even then). He used to say they might wait for a 2-count once or twice a game; where the quarterback yells "Ready...GO...GO!". And they would invariably get an offsides call against the defense.

Like this idea. There is something about getting up to the line and snapping the ball quickly that seems to work.

 

[hwk23]

Iowa has to run the ball well to make the machine work. The juxtaposition here is that everyone seems to have decided to take our run game away by loading the box and we have struggled mightily to burn them for it with the passing game. We don't need to throw for 300 yards. We need to be able to land a couple mid to deep routes off of play action.

You'd think teams would also try to stack the box against Wisconsin, since they run even more than we do, but they rarely have trouble against a team with equal or lessor athletes.

 

[SteveGarvey1]

Iowa offense reminds me of the Bob Commings era - before Hayden.
One of the biggest differences between KF and BC records is that KF has a much softer non-con schedule.
KF is only slightly above .500 in B10 play. If he had the non-con level opponents BC had, he would have had a number of losing seasons instead of 7-5 or even 8-4.Might even be long gone.

KF's offense is somewhat similar to BC's but with much better players.
BC did have tougher non con opponents but it's a stretch to say KF would have had a number of losing seasons because they would have won some of those games against tougher opponents while BC usually lost them.

 

[Adam]

You'd think teams would also try to stack the box against Wisconsin, since they run even more than we do, but they rarely have trouble against a team with equal or lessor athletes.

Well Wisconsin has shown the willingness to go over the top. They usually have 1 play maker WR and they use the shit out of the guy.

 

[Ree4]

Like this idea. There is something about getting up to the line and snapping the ball quickly that seems to work.

You get zero presnap reads and have no idea if the D is playing man to man, also it goes against the way Iowa runs the football - picking the side where the O outnumbers the D

 

[MoseSchrute]

Taylor is pretty legit, but the only other RB that they have had for awhile that was worth his weight in the NFL was Melvin Gordon. Wisconsin's running backs always look so good because of the amazing OL they put out every year.

James White. I'll grant you that Gordon would probably not have done as well at Iowa.

 

[hwk23]

You get zero presnap reads and have no idea if the D is playing man to man, also it goes against the way Iowa runs the football - picking the side where the O outnumbers the D

Well, I wouldn't do it everytime. Maybe for an occasional drive. I actually think we should audible right into the numbers more often and audible to passes more often. A problem with picking the side away from the numbers is the D may pickup on where the play is going. For example, the D usually overloads the non-short side and then Iowa audibles to the short side. The D knows where the play is going. They could just show any look they want to get Iowa to audible to the short side. Maybe an audible to a counter type play to the wide side would work sometimes.

 

[Adam]

James White. I'll grant you that Gordon would probably not have done as well at Iowa.

Ok ya forgot James White. He is a decent example though. White was the every down back at Wisconsin, but he is more of a catch out of the backfield RB in the leauge. He put up gaudy numbers at Wisconsin, but is more of a gimmick player now. Granted he is pretty good gimmick guy.

Gordon would have been a stud anywhere, but I'm not so sure about White or the vast majority of Wisconsin's RB's. Good? Sure, but not as special as they appeared running through Lincoln tunnels in Madison.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

Ok ya forgot James White. He is a decent example though. White was the every down back at Wisconsin, but he is more of a catch out of the backfield RB in the leauge. He put up gaudy numbers at Wisconsin, but is more of a gimmick player now. Granted he is pretty good gimmick guy.

Gordon would have been a stud anywhere, but I'm not so sure about White or the vast majority of Wisconsin's RB's. Good? Sure, but not as special as they appeared running through Lincoln tunnels in Madison.

Taylor, Gordon, White, Ball... that's pretty damn solid talent at RB, and that's only going back about 8 years, with those guys all being multi year guys, and on the same teams together for at least a year.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Well Wisconsin has shown the willingness to go over the top. They usually have 1 play maker WR and they use the shit out of the guy.

Cephus may have made one play too many. Think I read where it's going to trial now. That would put his season, and possibly more, up in the air.

Then again in 1984 Illinois' Craig Swoope was found not guilty on the day before the season opener for a similiar charge and was on the field the next week. God knows how much HC Mike White and/or the boosters paid to speed up the trial and grease the lawyers and judge. They were the sleaziest program in the BIG in those days.

 

[Adam]

Taylor, Gordon, White, Ball... that's pretty damn solid talent at RB, and that's only going back about 8 years, with those guys all being multi year guys, and on the same teams together for at least a year.

I'm not thumbing my nose at any of them. Just saying how much better they look behind Wisconsin's OL. It's really not a debatable point.

 

[Ree4]

Well, I wouldn't do it everytime. Maybe for an occasional drive. I actually think we should audible right into the numbers more often and audible to passes more often. A problem with picking the side away from the numbers is the D may pickup on where the play is going. For example, the D usually overloads the non-short side and then Iowa audibles to the short side. The D knows where the play is going. They could just show any look they want to get Iowa to audible to the short side. Maybe an audible to a counter type play to the wide side would work sometimes.

Yep that is definitely a problem

 

[AreWeThereYet]

That is exactly the point I was making. Last year's PPG ranking was much better than the YPG. This is because the defense was putting the offense in good starting field positions. Hence when I said that a good defense can lead to fewer yards per game.

I'll add, that Iowa has to have an effective red zone offense for this to work. If you lean on your defense to make scoring opportunities, you must convert if you get the chance. In past successful years Iowa has been good a scoring in the red zone. Having good tight ends, a powerful offensive line, and having blocking help from the receivers, backs, etc.

Last week against Iowa State we didn't have a good red zone offense. Iowa left two scores off the board in the first half. They can't do that and win against good opponents.

 

[tksirius]

It took long enough, but I think the site finally updated the rankings. Not sure if it's completely updated.
Looks like UNI provided a big jump for junior in the rankings. I'm sure we'll drop back down after this Saturday, but we might as well enjoy it while we have it, folks!

Phil's defense is in 2nd place in 3 of these categories! Holy F Wow! Amirite?

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21

OFFENSE:

Under BF Season One:

Total Offense: 116th (out of 129 teams)
Scoring Offense: 66th
Passing Offense: 93rd
Rushing Offense: 96th
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Mean Ranking: 92.75

Under BF 3 Games Season Two: (These #s are for season two '2018' only)

Total Offense: 87th (out of 128 teams)
Scoring Offense: 82nd tied
Passing Offense: 80th
Rushing Offense: 72nd
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Mean Ranking: 80.25

5 years under Greg Davis:

Total Offense: 92.2nd
Scoring Offense: 82.4nd
Passing Offense: 92nd
Rushing Offense: 66.8th
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Mean Ranking: 83.35

13 years under KOK:

Total Offense: 67.92th
Scoring Offense: 59.46th
Passing Offense: 59.84th
Rushing Offense: 66.23th
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Mean Ranking: 63.36

11 years under KOK if you take away the first 2 years:

Total Offense: 62.18nd
Scoring Offense: 51.72st
Passing Offense: 60th
Rushing Offense: 59.36th
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Mean Ranking: 58.31

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DEFENSE:

Under Phil Parker 6 Seasons:

Total Defense: 26.33th
Scoring Defense: 23.66rd
Passing Defense: 33.16rd
Rushing Defense: 35.5th
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Mean Ranking: 29.66

Under Phil Parker 3 Games Season Seven: (These #s are for season seven '2018' only)

Total Defense: 2nd
Scoring Defense: Tied w/ 2 other teams for 2nd
Passing Defense: 23rd
Rushing Defense: Tied with AF for 2nd place
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Mean Ranking: 7.25

13 years under Norm Parker:

Total Defense: 45.46th
Scoring Defense: 30.69th
Passing Defense: 64.53th
Rushing Defense: 36.46th
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Mean Ranking: 44.28

11 years under Norm if you take away the first 2 years:

Total Defense: 33.81rd
Scoring Defense: 20.54th
Passing Defense: 61st
Rushing Defense: 24.18th
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Mean Ranking: 34.88

 

[tksirius]

Guys, I gave Brian some props. Hello!

 

[Adam]

Guys, I gave Brian some props. Hello!

Really? Where? I would like to frame the post