All of that's certainly possible, and it's something both teams should be looking to right now, but I don't think it's particularly probable. That's all. If either team wins this game and ends the season 11-1 it will be a huge victory, along with all of the others.
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All of that's certainly possible, and it's something both teams should be looking to right now, but I don't think it's particularly probable. That's all. If either team wins this game and ends the season 11-1 it will be a huge victory, along with all of the others.
Iowa has a great defense, I think that's pretty much a given. Fantastic last year and returns a lot of talent. I don't think there will be a ton of pressure on Purdy in this game however, because I think they'll get the ball out quick.
ISU quarterbacks have 3 turnovers (Zeb Noland fumble 2018, Jacob Park Int 2017, Lanning Int 2016) in the last 4 games. I highly doubt there are going to be 3 turnovers in one game here but certainly anything is possible.
As long as we're putting the cart so effin' far in front of the horse it is not even visible, OSU starts a true freshman QB...not out of the realm of possibility that Phil and our back 7 could pull off some voodoo.
hawkdrummer1
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"Anything is possible"...Austin Arnaud
That said, ISU should win this one. Senior laden team, at home, all the chips on your side of the table. Anything less than a clone win would be a major disappointment for your fans and program. No pressure.
Two years ago ISU gained 30% of their yardage, and accounted for 14 out of their 17 points, on breakdowns by the Hawkeye's secondary.
The first was when DJ Johnson (playing due to injury to Moss and pre-emergence of Belton) totally bit on the double-pass (51 yard TD).
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The second was a 73 yard TD on the 2nd play of the 2nd half. Not sure of their coverage, but it appears Stone got caught with eyes on the play-action and failed to get to his half.
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Aside from those 2 plays, ISU had 7 other drives (4 punts, 1 fumble, 1 turned over on downs, 1 FG).
In 2018 Iowa didn't give up any big plays. ISU had 11 drives (1 FG, 1 fumble, 1 turned over on downs, 8 punts).
So in the last 2 matchups, ISU has had 2 big plays caused by Iowa breakdowns in the secondary. Aside from that, they have had 18 drives that resulted in more punts (12) than points (6).
This is a better ISU team than 2018 or 2019. But I don't see this back 7 giving up big plays due to breakdowns. Breece Hall might be the difference maker, he might make something out of nothing. But if they contain him, I like Iowa's chances.
The first was when DJ Johnson (playing due to injury to Moss and pre-emergence of Belton) totally bit on the double-pass (51 yard TD).
1Q — Iowa State flea flicker
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The second was a 73 yard TD on the 2nd play of the 2nd half. Not sure of their coverage, but it appears Stone got caught with eyes on the play-action and failed to get to his half.
3Q — Purdy to Milton 73-yard catch
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Aside from those 2 plays, ISU had 7 other drives (4 punts, 1 fumble, 1 turned over on downs, 1 FG).
In 2018 Iowa didn't give up any big plays. ISU had 11 drives (1 FG, 1 fumble, 1 turned over on downs, 8 punts).
So in the last 2 matchups, ISU has had 2 big plays caused by Iowa breakdowns in the secondary. Aside from that, they have had 18 drives that resulted in more punts (12) than points (6).
This is a better ISU team than 2018 or 2019. But I don't see this back 7 giving up big plays due to breakdowns. Breece Hall might be the difference maker, he might make something out of nothing. But if they contain him, I like Iowa's chances.
ClintonIAfan
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Hawkeyes 41
Clowns 17
Clowns 17
JoeyLabasForPresident
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As much as I'd like to see a repeat of the 2016 game, I don't think it's going to happen.
Not a must win probably for either team. Winning that first one was big for Iowa. Especially with Minnesota Wisconsin and Northwestern all going down. We will likely be in the hunt for the West. Likewise if Clones were to lose I think they still have a good chance at their first championship in like 120 years!
I look for Clones to win 24-13. They have playmakers on both sides of the ball and are very experienced playing at home. Hard to beat that
If Iowa doesn't turn it over it may be closer
I look for Clones to win 24-13. They have playmakers on both sides of the ball and are very experienced playing at home. Hard to beat that
If Iowa doesn't turn it over it may be closer
HawkGold
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Predict KF in this game? Which KF will show up? Seriously this one is no way to predict. I think it's kinda nice to not be in a lose lose. ISU has much more to lose than Iowa.
Iowa again has about 80 percent + of what it takes to get to the playoffs. I was hoping petras' weaknesses would be improved and they weren't. It's not like being rusty. ISU will make him pass on the move. That is where the game will be won or lost. He has a great release, but bailed way to early. His footwork just isn't there, but then how did he get the TD? Will he only see TE's? Can he see the breaking single covered WR? Can he get the ball to them? Showed glimpses last year. Iowa doesn't have a power back to get 3.5 into a wall.
Iowa again has about 80 percent + of what it takes to get to the playoffs. I was hoping petras' weaknesses would be improved and they weren't. It's not like being rusty. ISU will make him pass on the move. That is where the game will be won or lost. He has a great release, but bailed way to early. His footwork just isn't there, but then how did he get the TD? Will he only see TE's? Can he see the breaking single covered WR? Can he get the ball to them? Showed glimpses last year. Iowa doesn't have a power back to get 3.5 into a wall.
JoeyLabasForPresident
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Given that in interviews they said that they needed to start hot and take an early lead against Indiana I am hoping/expecting the same mentality. I also expect that if they can score 14 in the first half they fully intend to do basically nothing on offense from then on, which has bit us in the ass in the past. That said, I am not convinced that Iowa State's offensive line will look better than last week, and they looked bad, so I think 14 might well be enough to win.
Chickenlounge
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Anyone know what Kolar's injury was. I can just find "lower body injury". And is he 100% this weekend? Hopefully he's not, as he can be a difference maker for them.
HawkGold
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The line play was shocking, but so was Iowa/NDSU. The little bit I saw was that UNI new they were overmatched and ISU didn't seem to concerned, but it could have turned different.
Same ISU team as 2019 minus a standout WR.Two years ago ISU gained 30% of their yardage, and accounted for 14 out of their 17 points, on breakdowns by the Hawkeye's secondary.
The first was when DJ Johnson (playing due to injury to Moss and pre-emergence of Belton) totally bit on the double-pass (51 yard TD).
1Q — Iowa State flea flicker
The second was a 73 yard TD on the 2nd play of the 2nd half. Not sure of their coverage, but it appears Stone got caught with eyes on the play-action and failed to get to his half.
3Q — Purdy to Milton 73-yard catch
Aside from those 2 plays, ISU had 7 other drives (4 punts, 1 fumble, 1 turned over on downs, 1 FG).
In 2018 Iowa didn't give up any big plays. ISU had 11 drives (1 FG, 1 fumble, 1 turned over on downs, 8 punts).
So in the last 2 matchups, ISU has had 2 big plays caused by Iowa breakdowns in the secondary. Aside from that, they have had 18 drives that resulted in more punts (12) than points (6).
This is a better ISU team than 2018 or 2019. But I don't see this back 7 giving up big plays due to breakdowns. Breece Hall might be the difference maker, he might make something out of nothing. But if they contain him, I like Iowa's chances.
And that big run against Indiana to open the game. Pushing the back to the outside is ISU's actual defensive strategy. They do that inside run blitz from a light box thing Saturday and Iowa will break off two or three of those.
Big day for the TEs sealing that outside block coming. Book it. Iowa by 7.
okeefe4prez
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Scoring a million points in a 60 minute football contest would require a team to score over 277 points per second. This is not possible.
At the end of the day, this is the best Iowa State team ever. I think this is a 41-6 ISU victory. Just a thrashing. Two defensive TDs for them and our defense will give up by the third quarter after the 9th straight 3 and out.
99topdawg
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High of 96 in Ames on Saturday--94 at kickoff. I have no idea if they're deeper than us, but they have a lot of seniors, would that mean they have more depth?
We play to not give up the big play, so sometimes we give up first downs to lengthen drives (which is a good strategy IMO). Will our defense be on the field for too many plays?
If we can control the ball, that should swing in our direction.
Either way, 96 is pretty damn hot.
We play to not give up the big play, so sometimes we give up first downs to lengthen drives (which is a good strategy IMO). Will our defense be on the field for too many plays?
If we can control the ball, that should swing in our direction.
Either way, 96 is pretty damn hot.
Fryowa
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Hawks by 750,000 then.
Final offer.
I've been part of a rather large accident settlement negotiation before and I know how your lawyer math works.
Fryowa
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Let’s just make it 96 points then
okeefe4prez
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Jesus H. Christ. I live in the Deep South and the hottest day of the year here was July 28 when it hit 95 degrees. Hitting 96 the second week in September is unreal. And it will be in the 30's in 8 weeks up there.
