I'm a realist and I'm not going to apologize for that.
Now, instead of getting woke on me because I don't agree with or align with your thinking, break down what I stated and tell me where I am wrong or what your thoughts are. We can be mature about this and debate.
Seriously, when we have millions of vehicles or equipment/machines being operated by lithium batteries or maybe another technology, what do we do with all the batteries that eventually go bad? To my understanding, one can't just throw in the garbage that's taken to the landfill.
Now, I am open to reliable energy sources and investigating battery technology that might be better and better for the environment, but we do not have those answers for our current technology.
People think wind and solar is so great. But people have to understand that windmills have to be manufactured which takes other sources of energy to manufacture them. Also, windmills are a maintenance nightmare and quite costly to maintain. For wind farms and solar farms. it takes a lot of land to accommodate the farms. They need a lot of space. Maybe they can build solar farms up like skyscrapers. I think there is an efficiency issue with both these technologies as well. And with solar, another negative is that the panels degrade over time and now have a life span of about 22-25 years. The balance is if you are going to get the benefit over the cost it is to maintain the technology. It doesn't make sense to be upside down financially with technology if the overhead/maintenance is high, just because it sounded like a good idea or was good for the environment. Solar started in the 1970's. Why do you think not every other home has it at this point. Because, the upfront cost to install ends up only being a negligible savings in the end at this point. Yes, at the beginning one is going to see an efficient system and many energy savings, but, at the same time they have a big sticker price they may have to pay for, 15-20 years. During this time the energy created degrades over the years until about year 22 when they recommend you purchase new panels and start the entire process again.
To me, the actual problem with all of our discussion about climate change is a very human one.
Have you heard of the experiment called "the prisoner's dilemma"? It's part of game theory, and oftentimes, in the experiment, individuals risk having better gains for themselves as individuals, even if it could tank everyone, instead of choosing to cooperate, with everyone getting a bit less overall.
How does this translate? As Americans, we only look at our individual needs. What's cheaper now? What do I want? Etc... The problem is... we're all fu@king doomed because of this. You can't have your own climate.
Several years ago, I was on this board quite a bit. Back then, some folks were extolling the virtue of "clean coal." Of course that might sound silly right now, but it was a real thing then. Now, we carp about solar, wind, teslas. While none of these individual solutions is perfect by any stretch, they at least move us to a potential for a better tomorrow. Where did the term "clean coal" come from? Paid political pundits and purveyors of cable infotainment.
This brings me back to the game theory part. We're screwed. People don't want to cooperate for a better future. We want what we want right now. So, we're screwed. I'll be dead by the time the sh*t really hits the fan, but it will happen. It has already started.
I'm quite pessimistic. We'll complain and long for the good ol days, but they ain't coming back in terms of climate change. It's an existential threat to humanity. Meanwhile, we say wind won't work (did you know Iowa gets 55% of it's energy from wind?). Solar panels suck (California has tons of desert space and well over 300 days of blazing sun per year).
The "right now, me me me" folks poo poo all solutions. Like I said, we're screwed.
Here's an example: California is in an extreme water shortage, fueled by climate change related mega droughts. There was an announcement about this, and a plea to curtail unnecessary water use. Ya know what happened? Water use INCREASED. We're screwed.