I think it's going to be Keno

dhow said:
What did "Mr. Davis's" players ever do at Drake under "Mr. Davis"

Not defending Keno by any means. Everyone is just jumping to the conclusion that Keno inherited a team that was already ranked, winning MVC titles and making NCAA tourney appearances
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Sounds to me like the Mr. Davis haters want it both ways. They claim Mr. Davis didn't recruit worth a damn while he was here, then claim that Keno inherited all of Mr. Davis's players at Drake.
 
Rawkhawk73 said:
Who in their right mind is comparing Pearl to Keno? If anyone is, they should have their head examined!

The point is that you summarily dismissed Keno's name when brought up while at the same time telling anyone who listened that Lick deserved a 4th year after guiding our program to depths it had never seen in it's history.

If the choice is Pearl or Keno, then there is no choice.....it's Pearl. But what if Pearl says no? What if a lot of other people say no? What if after all that, Keno says yes? Are you willing to tell everyone on here that you will NOT support Keno?
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Can't we just pay K Ferentz more money and have him coach both sports. I mean, even if he has limited knowledge of the game, he couldn't do as bad.....plus he could entice his athletes to come over and play some double sports. Athleticism wouldn't be an issue, shooting might suffer....ok totally kidding on this one, just thought it was funny when it popped in my head....I'll stop now.
 
2boys said:
This was posted the other day, so I'm stealing this but here is what Keno's resume would look like:

*Former assistant coach under both Bruce Pearl and Tom Davis (twice)

*Was named national coach of the year by six different organizations

*In three years as a head coach, his teams have reached the postseason twice

*Became first coach to lead a school to the NCAA tournament in 37 years. That team returned only one starter and had been picked to finish NINTH in their conference.

*Led a different school to 19 wins in his first season at the school, including victories against a No. 15 rated team and a No. 1 rated team

*University of Iowa graduate

Doesn't look bad to me!
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Lickliter had 4 post season trips in 4 out of his 6 years including 2 sweet 16s and was national coach of the prior to his time at Iowa.

Being an assistant coach does not translate into wins nor does mid major success.

I would agree with earlier post, Keno does not have experience to be Iowa's next head BB coach. Mr. Davis had 9 years experience coaching major Div1 BB with a trip to both the sweet 16 and Elite 8 before he came to Iowa.

Keno is just too much of a gamble for our program at this point, regardless of what happened to Mr. Davis. If Iowa is his dream job lets make sure he has proven that he deserves it. Now is not his time.
 
Rawkhawk73 said:
Sounds to me like the Mr. Davis haters want it both ways. They claim Mr. Davis didn't recruit worth a damn while he was here, then claim that Keno inherited all of Mr. Davis's players at Drake.
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I agree, If I recall.....Mr. Davis sent players to the pro's from Iowa. LT has too, just they had to transfer to another school first, then go pro... I don't know why we are comparing and also why we are mentioning any names linked to a past that we moved on from. Pearl has the track record, the possible interest, and we are looking to go bigger this time, which should have been done after Alford.
 
Rawkhawk73 said:
Who in their right mind is comparing Pearl to Keno? If anyone is, they should have their head examined!

The point is that you summarily dismissed Keno's name when brought up while at the same time telling anyone who listened that Lick deserved a 4th year after guiding our program to depths it had never seen in it's history.

If the choice is Pearl or Keno, then there is no choice.....it's Pearl. But what if Pearl says no? What if a lot of other people say no? What if after all that, Keno says yes? Are you willing to tell everyone on here that you will NOT support Keno?
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Read between the lines of that post I made, go ahead and remove all Bruce Pearl references. The fact remains - he had 1 miracle season at HC at Drake, he's been a HC for THREE YEARS, very minimal experience at the BCS level schools.

It would be a nightmare hire and he would be having more on-the-job training than Alford did.
 
Warhawks77 said:
I've read some of the posts here but not all so I apologize if I make the same point......we remember that we ran Tom Davis out of Iowa correct? That was not a good divorce. I know personally I don't always like people or companies that mistreat my own parents. Would Keno really be interested in this position because of how it parted ways with his Father? Or are the Davis's intellegent to know when to seperate business from emotion? I don't doubt he knows what he is going but I don't think he has been away from Drake long enough to know. I do remember hearing many of the same things about LT when he came in.

This decision needs to be based on track record, recruiting and most importantly....will this coach and style of play bring the fans back that pay for the program to continue on.
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Apparently Tom Davis and Iowa kissed and made up a few years ago. There is no ill will felt towards Iowa from any of them. At least this is what I have heard. Keno, being a graduate of Iowa, also has nothing but admiration for the university. A classy family, that's for sure.
 
2boys said:
Duff....it also doesn't mean he wouldn't be either.
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You are right, r. Tom is not why Keno Avis woul not be a fit. When you look at the overall coaching resume an results he's ha as a hea coach you realise that while he woul efiniately score a lot of points an play an entertaining ran of basketball that oesn't necessarily make him the right guy for the job. A. . Barta nees to look at the big picture and make a hire base on somthing other than "this guys teams will score a lot of points here".
 
Spank....that's just not true. Keno now has 2 years of major conference experience, which is 2 years more than Alford or Lick had before they arrived at Iowa combined.

Plus, how many years of major conference experience did LUTE OLSON have before he came to Iowa? Long Beach State....

Or, how many years of major conference experience did KF have before he came to Iowa? Maine.....
 
storminspank said:
Read between the lines of that post I made, go ahead and remove all Bruce Pearl references. The fact remains - he had 1 miracle season at HC at Drake, he's been a HC for THREE YEARS, very minimal experience at the BCS level schools.

It would be a nightmare hire and he would be having more on-the-job training than Alford did.
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Miracle season?

Did Keno winning 19 games (including two over Top 15 opponents) last season at Providence also qualify as miraculous?

At some point aren't all coaches who turn a crappy program into a winning program miracle workers?

Spank, I think you're a hail fellow well met, but your lingering bitterness over Mr. Davis (for what reason, I have no idea) is making you out to look like a buffoon on the Keno issue. Especially considering the fact that you've been one of the biggest Lickliter boosters in Hawkeyeland the last couple of years. So, if we are a little skeptical of your ability to evaluate coaching talent for this level, please understand.

Keno has been training to be a coach since he was in high school. He could not be more prepared for this job.

You are just dead wrong. Sorry.
 
I love Mr. Davis. LOVE HIM.
Keno just isn't ready to take over this Iowa program. Maybe in 10 years, but not now.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Or just disagree. :)
 
storminspank said:
I love Mr. Davis. LOVE HIM.
Keno just isn't ready to take over this Iowa program. Maybe in 10 years, but not now.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Or just disagree. :)
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Don't like Keno, but you're in love with the highly experienced and decorated resume of Rob Jeter.

Got it.

Sorry. I'm going to have a hard time letting that one go. ;)

Let's just agree that we both want Bruce Pearl, first and foremost.

I just think Keno is the next best option, for most of the same reasons we all want Pearl.
 
2boys said:
Spank....that's just not true. Keno now has 2 years of major conference experience, which is 2 years more than Alford or Lick had before they arrived at Iowa combined.

Plus, how many years of major conference experience did LUTE OLSON have before he came to Iowa? Long Beach State....

Or, how many years of major conference experience did KF have before he came to Iowa? Maine.....
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You are aware that this is 2010, right?

Bruce Pearl has been at UT since 2005 and has taken them to the NCAA tournament every year he has been there.
 
JDeMoney....you are 100% correct on this one.

There is no question Pearl would be the home run hire, but I think it's wishful thinking at best. But, Keno would not be a bad hire by any means.

Spank, I can't wait to see your "wish list"! Based on what you're saying about Keno, I'd make sure you don't include any assistant coaches or mid-major guys....you'd really look foolish if you did, especially after your comments about Keno.

Also, you'll want to make sure your candidates have more than 2 years of major coaching experience and wins over more than just a #1 and #15 rated team. Oh yeah, you may want to also add in a guy who has done more than take a team to the NCAA tourney for the first time in 37 years, since the new coach will need to rebuild our program.

I'll be excited to see your realistic "list"!
 
I'm with Spank on this one, if Barta hires Keno I think he would have been better off keeping Lick for one more year. That would have given Todd a chance to show what he can do with a full roster coming back and give Keno another year to prove he deserves his spot as a head coach.
 
JDeMoney said:
Don't like Keno, but you're in love with the highly experienced and decorated resume of Rob Jeter.

Got it.

Sorry. I'm going to have a hard time letting that one go. ;)

Let's just agree that we both want Bruce Pearl, first and foremost.

I just think Keno is the next best option, for most of the same reasons we all want Pearl.
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Bottom line is I just don't think Keno is ready. And all my other coaching suggestions sucked because I was on the spot and hadn't thought much about it yet.

Hey, I've never doubted which one is smarter between the two of us! :)
 
OB1 said:
You are aware that this is 2010, right?

Bruce Pearl has been at UT since 2005 and has taken them to the NCAA tournament every year he has been there.
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I THINK we can all agree that Bruce Pearl is the best choice.

The issue is who is the next best choice, given the very distinct possibility that Bruce Pearl wishes to stay in Knoxville.
 
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