hawkeyebob62
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From the ashes!
I am sorry if this sounds mean spirited....
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From the ashes!
MelroseHawkins
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KF has had 5 losing seasons. And just for good measure I included 2007 6-6 season in the 5. Out of the 5, I think you can punt on the 1999 and 2000 seasons as that was in the infancy of his coaching tenure at Iowa and Iowa improved in the 2000 season. So really, he's only had 2 losing seasons and one tied record.
IMO, part of identity is consistency. I don't think you can have one without the other. Nebby has not had consistency in the program for some time now.
HomerChampless
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Bob, you know he was being sarcastic, right?Voice. Of. Rational. Thought.
hawkeyebob62
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Neither does he/she.
hawkeyebob62
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And yet, he was spot-on.
HomerChampless
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And you think Riley already shows a lack of having a program identity? Huh? How many years has Riley been at Nebby? Four or five years? Will you be willing to throw out the first couple of years like you did KF? What's Nebby's season record been compared to Iowa's in those five years? How many big name schools has Nebby defeated compared to Iowa in those five years? What's your point?
MelroseHawkins
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Hey dude, yelling at the wrong person. I'm not the one firing Mike Riley, Nebraska is! Go yell at them.
That is my point. No consistency. You got it, Congrats!
InGoodCo
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It's not though. You can't just take his overall winning percentage and say "he's 7-5 every year" ... cause he's not. Often times, he's much better. Rarely is he much worse. Sometimes, he is 7-5. But KF doubters love to die on that sword and hold his 4-19 start against him which incredibly skew that #.
HomerChampless
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Are you being sarcastic?
HomerChampless
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I just think there is some bad blood in the Nebby fan base after getting shellacked by tOSU. Difference between the Iowa fan base and the Nebby fan base: Nebby fan base wants to win all the time and Iowa's fan base accepts approximately 58 percent wins. How does the Iowa fan base react after losing to a school Iowa should've defeated? They blame the offense even though the defense plays prevent the entire game..
Ree4
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Nah I'm not big on trolling but I know plenty of people who do and they openly admit it!Are you trolling? No? I thought you'd say that.
MelroseHawkins
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Where Iowa is at the moment, I think 8-9 wins a year is fair to expect with the occasional super season with 10+ wins with a chance to go to the playoffs. If Iowa consistently was in this range with occasional breakout year, I would be "completely" happy as a fan.
This says the team is competitive and competing for BIG division championships along with BIG championship. If win that, have a chance at the playoffs. That is where I think Iowa should first strive to get as far as a team. That is where Wisky is at the moment.
This says the team is competitive and competing for BIG division championships along with BIG championship. If win that, have a chance at the playoffs. That is where I think Iowa should first strive to get as far as a team. That is where Wisky is at the moment.
MelroseHawkins
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I get your point to an extent and see what you are saying. IMO, Nebby fans and some administration need to pull the wool from over their face and kind of do a "reset" of the program. They really need to reboot and find themselves again to build up from. I think that is where they are going wrong. Yes, they want to win every game and want to get back to the 1980's & 1990's but don't have a path to get there. They are kind of lost in the back 80 at the moment.
After Iowa hired then fired Todd Lickliter, they didn't just keep hiring coaches until they hit on one. The admin sat down and evaluated what style of play Iowa wanted to play (coinciding with what fans wanted to see) and pinpointed a coach to fit that style. They F'ed up hiring Lickliter whose style did not at all fit what Iowa and fans wanted. They learned from that and got the 2nd hire correct. I think this is what Nebby needs to do. They need to sit down and ask themselves what style they want to play or what kind of team they want to look like. Back to Power run, bruising lines, etc.. They then need to find coaching candidates to fit that style of who they want to be. Not hiring the Mike Riley's of the world.
Knight78
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I could find easily sorted statistics in only one place, (www.footballdb.com) and they only went back to the 2012 season, but those statistics tell a tale of more than just defense.
2016 Rushing Defense YPG: Iowa 149.7, Wisconsin 98.8
2016 Passing Defense YPG: Iowa 187.2, Wisconsin 187.0
2016 Total Defense YPG: Iowa 336.8, Wisconsin 285.8
2016 Total Defense PPG: Iowa 18.8, Wisconsin 15.6
2016 Rushing YPG: Iowa 171.8, Wisconsin 203.1
2016 Passing YPG: Iowa 136.5, Wisconsin 168.4
2016 PPG: Iowa 24.9, Wisconsin 28.4
2015 Rushing Defense YPG: Iowa 121.4, Wisconsin 95.6
2015 Passing Defense YPG: Iowa 204.1, Wisconsin 155.9
2015 Total Defense YPG: Iowa 325.5, Wisconsin 251.5
2015 Total Defense PPG: Iowa 20.4, Wisconsin 13.7
2015 Rushing YPG: Iowa 181.7, Wisconsin 150.3
2015 Passing YPG: Iowa 188.6, Wisconsin 215.8
2015 PPG: Iowa 30.9, Wisconsin 26.8
2014 Rushing Defense YPG: Iowa 168.3, Wisconsin 126.1
2014 Passing Defense YPG: Iowa 163.4, Wisconsin 150.0
2014 Total Defense YPG: Iowa 331.7, Wisconsin 276.1
2014 Total Defense PPG: Iowa 25.6, Wisconsin 20.8
2014 Rushing YPG: Iowa 163.1, Wisconsin 320.1
2014 Passing YPG: Iowa 225.7, Wisconsin 141.6
2014 PPG: Iowa 28.2, Wisconsin 34.6
2013 Rushing Defense YPG: Iowa 128.4, Wisconsin 102.9
2013 Passing Defense YPG: Iowa 164.8, Wisconsin 191.4
2013 Total Defense YPG: Iowa 293.2, Wisconsin 294.3
2013 Total Defense PPG: Iowa 18.9, Wisconsin 16.3
2013 Rushing YPG: Iowa 180.2, Wisconsin 283.8
2013 Passing YPG: Iowa 192.4, Wisconsin 189.8
2013 PPG: Iowa 26.3, Wisconsin 34.8
2012 Rushing Defense YPG: Iowa 162.1, Wisconsin 128.9
2012 Passing Defense YPG: Iowa 213.7, Wisconsin 179.1
2012 Total Defense YPG: Iowa 375.8, Wisconsin 308.1
2012 Total Defense PPG: Iowa 22.9, Wisconsin 19.1
2012 Rushing YPG: Iowa 123.0, Wisconsin 236.4
2012 Passing YPG: Iowa 174.4, Wisconsin 139.9
2012 PPG: Iowa 19.3, Wisconsin 29.6
Adam
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Knight78
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Riley's 2015 Nebraska team had far more talent than Ferentz's 1999 Hawkeye team.
InGoodCo
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This is also year 3 for him, a year that the schedule looked favorable and was finally time for his program to show progress after completely shitting the bed last season after starting 7-0. Now, next season - the schedule flips - gets much more difficult. I don't see how they keep him after this year. I would love it if they do
DMLadyhawk
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Just for clarity - this is Riley's third year at Nebraska and he inherited Tommy Armstrong as QB.
--------After Iowa hired then fired Todd Lickliter, they didn't just keep hiring coaches until they hit on one.
Weed them out quick....what you say above isn't something to brag about. Alfraud could have been gone years earlier, and Ferments smoke and mirrors 2015 season may not have ever happened....how glorious things may have turned out had he been let go 3 or 4 years ago. We wouldn't be tied to Horse Feathers football for the next 8 years.
Weed them out quick....what you say above isn't something to brag about. Alfraud could have been gone years earlier, and Ferments smoke and mirrors 2015 season may not have ever happened....how glorious things may have turned out had he been let go 3 or 4 years ago. We wouldn't be tied to Horse Feathers football for the next 8 years.
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HawkeyeWalker
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Holy smokes...Thunder in the house.
