hawkdrummer1
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This. There are a lot of Hawkeye fans shooting off their mouth in the direction of Lincoln that need to dial it back.
Howe Column: Hawkeyes Snag Necessary Win in What Has Become a Heated Rivalry
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This. There are a lot of Hawkeye fans shooting off their mouth in the direction of Lincoln that need to dial it back.
Northside Hawk
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He will call it a fluke. Or the defender slipped.
That was one gutsy call, especially at home, where it usually behooves the home team to play for overtime. If we turn it over on downs we almost certainly lose. Nebraska and Martinez would have only been two plays from field goal range. I think the coaches wanted no part of trying to stop Martinez in overtime.
They also may have remembered being in a similar situation at tOSU in 2009 and playing for overtime, when it usually behooves the visiting team to go for the win in regulation.
Northside Hawk
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They won't be relevant until they improve other positions on the field. They won four games in a down big ten. Frost has to show me first. If they get to bowl eligibility next year that would be linear improvement. There are two other teams in the west, Purdue and Minnesota, that are a year further ahead in the process that I'm more concerned about, for now.
hawkdrummer1
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Iowa won five. Not a huge gap there.
chadfrey
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Correction — They won THREE conference games. Their fourth win was over Bethune-Cookman. That written, there was, IMO, only one "bad loss" on the 'Husker schedule — to Troy. The others are all understandable.
I have bee frustrated that no one seems to understand the idea of eras — and that right now Iowa is in the twilight of an era (Kirk will not be around forever) and that Nebraska is entering yet another new era.
Nebraska will be better. The question is when, and how much. As much as 'Husker fans want to talk about how bad they were under Reilly, recruiting was not that lacking - often in the top 25. There was some talent in Lincoln when Frost showed up. The turnaround they are all yammering about is, IMO, not going to be as difficult as many would believe after back-to-back four-win seasons.
I still hate those guys. They have been insufferable donkey pits for decades. Try being an Iowa/Big 10 fan living in a part of Kansas that attracts craploads of "Big Red" fans to their small colleges in the early 1990s. Their constant crowing and hubris is hard to take.
The day they joined the Big 10 I warned them all what they were going to become as they started a new era of football. And they have become it. An average team in the Big 10 with up and down cycles looking up at the elite.
Unfortunately, they have not put their 1990s era to bed yet, clinging to it like a five-year-old's security blanket.
Iowa will be fine next couple of years — look beyond the starters and at the two deeps. If that means keeping the Huskers at bay remains to be seen. There are two others on the rise as well, entering new eras — Minnesota and Purdue. The question in front of Iowa football, and the Big 10, is who will falter as Minny, Purdue and Nebraska improve? Will it be Iowa — who has a stiff test against the in-state rival (can I add how smart it is for Iowa and Iowa State to be in different conferences?! KU and KState should take note.) or will it be Wisky? Will it be Northwestern? And will any or all of this mean that Illinois will not be able to get going at all.
Nebraska will continue to crow about their National Titles 20 years ago. They will keep talking about how they are a blueblood, and continue to expect everyone to lay down in front of them so they can claim their birthright. Unfortunately for them, the Big 10 will not do that. Never has. The worst thing that happened for Nebraska football in the last 15 years was qualifying for the Big 10 championship in 2012. It affirmed what they believed — that the Big 10 would be a cakewalk for them and that this new era of football would be as successful as the last.
They believe this newest era, the Frost era, will be akin to the second coming. Their messiah is about to set up the promised land. God help us all if they walk through the eye of the needle into the holy city. The era of the loud-mouthed bugeater will never, ever go away if that happens.
I have bee frustrated that no one seems to understand the idea of eras — and that right now Iowa is in the twilight of an era (Kirk will not be around forever) and that Nebraska is entering yet another new era.
Nebraska will be better. The question is when, and how much. As much as 'Husker fans want to talk about how bad they were under Reilly, recruiting was not that lacking - often in the top 25. There was some talent in Lincoln when Frost showed up. The turnaround they are all yammering about is, IMO, not going to be as difficult as many would believe after back-to-back four-win seasons.
I still hate those guys. They have been insufferable donkey pits for decades. Try being an Iowa/Big 10 fan living in a part of Kansas that attracts craploads of "Big Red" fans to their small colleges in the early 1990s. Their constant crowing and hubris is hard to take.
The day they joined the Big 10 I warned them all what they were going to become as they started a new era of football. And they have become it. An average team in the Big 10 with up and down cycles looking up at the elite.
Unfortunately, they have not put their 1990s era to bed yet, clinging to it like a five-year-old's security blanket.
Iowa will be fine next couple of years — look beyond the starters and at the two deeps. If that means keeping the Huskers at bay remains to be seen. There are two others on the rise as well, entering new eras — Minnesota and Purdue. The question in front of Iowa football, and the Big 10, is who will falter as Minny, Purdue and Nebraska improve? Will it be Iowa — who has a stiff test against the in-state rival (can I add how smart it is for Iowa and Iowa State to be in different conferences?! KU and KState should take note.) or will it be Wisky? Will it be Northwestern? And will any or all of this mean that Illinois will not be able to get going at all.
Nebraska will continue to crow about their National Titles 20 years ago. They will keep talking about how they are a blueblood, and continue to expect everyone to lay down in front of them so they can claim their birthright. Unfortunately for them, the Big 10 will not do that. Never has. The worst thing that happened for Nebraska football in the last 15 years was qualifying for the Big 10 championship in 2012. It affirmed what they believed — that the Big 10 would be a cakewalk for them and that this new era of football would be as successful as the last.
They believe this newest era, the Frost era, will be akin to the second coming. Their messiah is about to set up the promised land. God help us all if they walk through the eye of the needle into the holy city. The era of the loud-mouthed bugeater will never, ever go away if that happens.
94HawkMA
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Good point. Is Wisconsin ranked right now? If we played them towards the end of the regular season this year, would that be considered a quality win? I'm probably missing something, but that still wouldn't give us a quality win, right?
Northside Hawk
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I don't think we beat a team who was ranked at the time.
Maryland was a sneaky good win. They were wildly inconsistent, beat Texas, should have beat Ohio State, may even have been ranked early. Some were concerned about their offense the week they played us. We're still waiting for them to score.
UCLA (has a talent pool much deeper than Nebraska) 3-9. Nebraska 4-8.
7- 24 running that style of play.
That's not fair Rob to point out in one post how we left points on the board (and we did) or how we gifted them points (and we did), then turn around and say we needed a last second field goal. I think we all know that had we played even slightly better (not even close to our best, which we have seen flash before) that game would have never been in question.
RobHowe
Administrator
Sorry. I'm missing your points.
You were responding to this.
Unless you are saying we have a bunch of work to do, because that I agree with. We didn't play all that well, nor was it called all that well. (Which is tough with a 1st year coach who is desperate for the win) Your response however could be taken as Nebraska has closed the gap, to within a last second field goal.
RobHowe
Administrator
Nebraska looked much better against Iowa this season than the last three, when Iowa blew it out. On this day, it was a last-second field goal. Does that mean the Huskers win next year? No. Is Nebraska more dangerous with Frost than it was with Mike Riley? Absolutely. And, again, a stud quarterback can make a huge different. The Huskers have that.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Nebraska is the media's pick to win the B1G West next season. As many have said they have a stud QB in place already. He's the best returning QB/2nd best overall player in the division. And their offense can score.
The West is there for the taking. If they can put a functional, average D together they're going to be a factor. Their biggest issue is him getting hurt.
The West is there for the taking. If they can put a functional, average D together they're going to be a factor. Their biggest issue is him getting hurt.
Totally fair. Wisky pooped the bed I don't see them being significantly better next yr. NW will be good but beatable just like this year. Purdue we'll see what happens with Brohm.
And Iowa is who we are. We'll be replacing Easley (don't undervalue what that'll mean) and maybe both starting TEs... We'll bring back most of Oline and all the RBs and most of receivers. Whats any of that mean for what to expect from us? Heck if I know at this point but to the overarching point of yours with Nebraska, Yeah a stud qb is a building block especially for the style of play in which they do. Stanley just hasn't shown the consistency in 2 yrs time now that makes me want to say he's our difference maker... I wish he was. I really do wish he'd be just out there dealing because he's capable of it. But is anyone else out there willing to say he'll top what he's done either of these 2 yrs next yr?
Northside Hawk
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I like Martinez. I've said that repeatedly all fall. I think they run the risk of injuring him by how he is used and what he is forced to do behind a below average offensive line. He was directly responsible for over 80% of Nebraska's yards from scrimmage against Iowa. That's suicidal. Northwestern's QB's don't get used as much and they have a history of getting banged up under Fitz. I know it only takes one play, but Frost had better be careful with his stud QB.
pythagoras
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He was hurt a few times this year. It's only a matter of time running him around like that in the B1G
Northside Hawk
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The key word you said was "hurt". Most players can play hurt. I think the only game he was missed was Troy but not 100% sure. I agree he was probably not 100% in some of the games he did play. Like you said he was definitely hurt a few times.
Frost is going to get him worse than hurt. He's going to to get him injured. Very few players can play injured.
Just wondered if in his case there was some sort of automatic "no" effectively.
Did the Huskers look that much better against us? Or did we look worse against them this year?
Big difference when you start looking at points given to them and points subtracted from us.
Points this season.
Iowa 378
Nebraska 380
PSU 415
You can argue all you want, but having that first game cancelled and the extra practice was a blessing for Nebraska.
Their non con was beyond pathetic.
You take out such high scores on MN, B-CU and Ill and what do you have?
5 games over 30 but 2 of those at 31 points
Iowa 7 games over 30 one game at 31.
As far as qb, didn't we do this Martinez thing before?
Drew, Russell, the list is long of talented qb's that have come through the b10.
And that brutal schedule they had? (Iowa sos 33, Braska 39)https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other or Iowa 20, Braska 60ishhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2018/8/29/17795292/college-football-2018-strength-of-schedule-week-12-rankings The entire b10 is down, or at best sporadic.
Purdue thumped OSU
MN thumped Wisconsin
Mich thumped PSU
OSU thumped Mich
Illinois thumped MN
We Thumped Illinois
I'm not saying they won't get better. I'm saying slow your roll a little. I'm not scared.
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DDThompson
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That made me snort, giggle and LOL all at once .... it hurt
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DDThompson
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Yep. This. Hurt. Injured.
Who is Frost going to recruit to play backup for 3 years?
Iowa had a tough time recruiting LBs with last season’s LBs starting since their sophomore season.
Try that with a freshman QB. Not easy.
