Hoiberg has contacted Horner about GA position!

ShadasRevenge said:
Wouldn't that be the final spot on Hoibergs staff, and isn't the general consensus that Hoiberg needs to fill that spot with someone who actually has, ya know....some experience?
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Grad Assistants don't have coaching experience. Thats why they are grad assistants. Being the GA gets them some experience so they can be hired as a paid assistant.
 
Who Fran picks to have as his GA will have nearly no impact on the Iowa basketball program. I think most of the posters who are worked up about this have no idea how menial the GA position is. You get to put the balls back in the rack after practice is over.
 
TChawk said:
Hoiberg also landed his first recruit the other day to, a pretty good one from what I heard to. How many has Fran landed so far? I don't think he will wear out his welcome in Ames any faster than Fran will in IC.
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1. Hoiberg didn't "land" anyone. The kid was going to commit to ISU anyway. I find it HIGHLY unlikely this kid signed with ISU just because Hoiberg is named coach.

2. The recruit may be "pretty good" (most D-1 college BB players are)...but he ain't no 5,4 or even 3 star player.

People are going WAY too far overboard on Hoiberg. He's a popular ex-Cyclone player. Big deal. Zero coaching experience. Johnny Orr had some good teams and players with ISU but he never sniffed a Final Four. Hoiberg ain't no Johnny Orr when it comes to coaching. Fred's "name" will only take him so far.
 
I heard this Wed Jeff was at a basketball camp and the students over heard the conversation.

They were shocked they thought he was going to Iowa
 
Wow... just...

Anyway, I sure that Jeff would prefer to come to Iowa as GA, but if Fran doesn't seem to be headed in that direction, ISU would be a nice place to start too. You have to get your foot in the door somewhere.

As for Hoiberg, I think Cyclone fans have every right to be excited. He is a very popular ex-player with NBA experience and seems to be quite smart. I would think that he has a pretty good chance to succeed - especially if he can get some exeperienced assistants. Pollard really reached for this hire - and he is either going to get a homerun or strike out.
 
HawkI101 said:
Grad Assistants don't have coaching experience. Thats why they are grad assistants. Being the GA gets them some experience so they can be hired as a paid assistant.
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Sounds like Hoiberg. Is he the head grad ast. head coach?
 
sioux34 said:
Who Fran picks to have as his GA will have nearly no impact on the Iowa basketball program. I think most of the posters who are worked up about this have no idea how menial the GA position is. You get to put the balls back in the rack after practice is over.
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Maybe not that bad but pretty close. People are making way to big of a deal out of this, if he goes good for him, it's a way for him to get his foot in the door to coaching. I don't see why it's that big of a deal.
 
clone21 said:
Like it or not, Iowa and ISU are going to battle out for recruits in this area despite only playing each other once a year. I think we can agree that there are quite a few nice in-state kids coming up the next three years. How Freddy can recruit will determine his stay. I believe college basketball is the one sport you can succeed in without coaching experience. Its all about the players. Look at your situation - you hired the National Coach of the Year and how did that work out.
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Just like you guys hired the hottest coaching prospect in the state at the time. A well known "in state" name that HAD coaching experience...so how did that work out for ya? Oh but that's right, according to you coaching experience is not necessary...that must be why McDermot failed. But something tells me that had Iowa hired BJ Armstrong, all we would have heard from the Clown faithful is about his lack of coaching experience.
 
jshawks said:
Just like you guys hired the hottest coaching prospect in the state at the time. A well known "in state" name that HAD coaching experience...so how did that work out for ya? Oh but that's right, according to you coaching experience is not necessary...that must be why McDermot failed. But something tells me that had Iowa hired BJ Armstrong, all we would have heard from the Clown faithful is about his lack of coaching experience.
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I would have said this regardless of who we hired. I firmly believe that basketball is the one sport you do not need experience coaching. I mean its man or zone defense, press or no press, and a handful of offensive plays that require minor adjustments. Hell, you can run the same play on offense every play if you want. (Princeton offense). Football you need experience in hundreds of defensive formations, offensive sets, and in just basic strategy. In basketball, if you get the talent and you can control that talent, coaching is secondary, and I firmly believe that. Look at Josh Pastner and Brad Stevens. I mean they can only be 30-35 as well. Maybe they had a few years learning as an assistant, but I believe that they learned nothing that Hoiberg didn't learn from being a student of the game as a player and in his position at Minnesota. He has been called the greatest player-coach Johnny Orr has ever coached, so I think he knows a thing or two.
 
clone21 said:
I would have said this regardless of who we hired. I firmly believe that basketball is the one sport you do not need experience coaching. I mean its man or zone defense, press or no press, and a handful of offensive plays that require minor adjustments. Hell, you can run the same play on offense every play if you want. (Princeton offense). Football you need experience in hundreds of defensive formations, offensive sets, and in just basic strategy. In basketball, if you get the talent and you can control that talent, coaching is secondary, and I firmly believe that. Look at Josh Pastner and Brad Stevens. I mean they can only be 30-35 as well. Maybe they had a few years learning as an assistant, but I believe that they learned nothing that Hoiberg didn't learn from being a student of the game as a player and in his position at Minnesota. He has been called the greatest player-coach Johnny Orr has ever coached, so I think he knows a thing or two.
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LOL. Good to see you've figured out what ADs across the country haven't...experience isn't important for a basketball coach. Care to list for me all the NCAA D1 head basketball coaches that were successfult without any coaching experience?
 
clone21 said:
I would have said this regardless of who we hired. I firmly believe that basketball is the one sport you do not need experience coaching. I mean its man or zone defense, press or no press, and a handful of offensive plays that require minor adjustments. Hell, you can run the same play on offense every play if you want. (Princeton offense). Football you need experience in hundreds of defensive formations, offensive sets, and in just basic strategy. In basketball, if you get the talent and you can control that talent, coaching is secondary, and I firmly believe that. Look at Josh Pastner and Brad Stevens. I mean they can only be 30-35 as well. Maybe they had a few years learning as an assistant, but I believe that they learned nothing that Hoiberg didn't learn from being a student of the game as a player and in his position at Minnesota. He has been called the greatest player-coach Johnny Orr has ever coached, so I think he knows a thing or two.
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The part you mentioned is the easy part. The important part that experience is required for is recruiting. If you have never done it, you don't know what it takes.
 
clone21 said:
I would have said this regardless of who we hired. I firmly believe that basketball is the one sport you do not need experience coaching. I mean its man or zone defense, press or no press, and a handful of offensive plays that require minor adjustments. Hell, you can run the same play on offense every play if you want. (Princeton offense). Football you need experience in hundreds of defensive formations, offensive sets, and in just basic strategy. In basketball, if you get the talent and you can control that talent, coaching is secondary, and I firmly believe that. Look at Josh Pastner and Brad Stevens. I mean they can only be 30-35 as well. Maybe they had a few years learning as an assistant, but I believe that they learned nothing that Hoiberg didn't learn from being a student of the game as a player and in his position at Minnesota. He has been called the greatest player-coach Johnny Orr has ever coached, so I think he knows a thing or two.
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I think you underestimate the importance of experience, but I do agree that a coaches ability to recruit good players is very important. Brad Stevens spent 7 yrs as an assistant and he has probably studied more game tape during that time than Hoiberg has in 10 yrs of playing in the NBA. (I think Stevens started as the video coordinator breaking down opponents schemes)

You can have all the talent in the world, but a coach has to get the most out of that talent to win. If what you say was true a guy like Wayne Morgan would still be coaching somewhere today. Tracy Webster would have been snatched up by a school by now.
 
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