High School Playoffs

HawkGold said:
Oh wow.. They don't have many students. Yet they've done very well over time
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The first thing is they're parochial. They have nothing restricting the geographical area that they pull their kids in from, and they also have incentives such as tuition and other perqs that public schools have. My school has a couple mile radius and there are Catholic school kids at various schools driving 40-50 miles because of sports. This isn't just RSM. The last 30 years, 22 state 1A baseball champs were from 7 different private schools. Mostly Catholic except for Iowa Mennonite one time.

The other one is culture. RSM kids pretty much all go out for sports and they play all sports. On the boys side at least, almost every student plays baseball, football, basketball, and track.

Once you start wining and start a tradition, the rest falls into place. Like I mentioned, West Lyon has way fewer students than my school, but probably double the football players total. But WL has also produced LeVar Woods, Kyle Vanden Bosch, Daren Naatjes (Stanford FB and baseball), Brandon Snyder, Monte Pottebaum, and a bunch of others. And that's just D1 football. The Kramer family has multiple NAIA All-Americans from there in football and baseball (dual sporters in college), and one of them played baseball in the Big Ten (Indiana). They're well-coached, and for some reason most of the alumni sticks around to perpetuate when their kids come through. All of their coaches in baseball, football, and basketball excpet for a couple that I can think of are alumni. That's unheard of.
 
I'll add.....Catholic schools aren't the only ones poaching and recruiting.

Clear Lake has been doing it for years with kids from Mason City.
People hate it but it's legal.
My hometown, Hampton, used to poach from CAL....whoop-de-do.
 
Seth53 said:
I'll add.....Catholic schools aren't the only ones poaching and recruiting.

Clear Lake has been doing it for years with kids from Mason City.
People hate it but it's legal.
My hometown, Hampton, used to poach from CAL....whoop-de-do.
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Spirit Lake did it with Ryan Kriener too, and Arland Bruce at Ankeny. But, it’s WAY worse in the Catholic system. Most of those are 1A schools playing against public 1A’s with almost no resources.
 
Fryowa said:
Spirit Lake did it with Ryan Kriener too, and Arland Bruce at Ankeny. But, it’s WAY worse in the Catholic system. Most of those are 1A schools playing against public 1A’s with almost no resources.
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Iowa City High convinced a huge lineman from Independence Iowa to transfer and open enroll from Independence to City High. Rumor has it the coach of City High had the kid live in their home to use his address for the transfer to make it legal. He might still be living with them for all know.

There's some other shady shit that has gone on there from what I hear. The two other schools in the district look at City High as the black sheep of the district and their coach as a tool.
 
Yea the Catholic schools have always been know to being doing it. I suspect much of it because they have such a easier path to get it done.
 
In IL Pontiac was a 4A /5Apower. They snagged a small school qb. Coach was banned from coaching and Pontiac has been terrible since. IL doesn't have open enrollment. IL basically has private schools play up 2 classes and get moved up further if they dominate still.

Schools bounce around in class anyway as they are classed by enrollment based on who qualifies by record and opponent record.
 
HawkGold said:
IL basically has private schools play up 2 classes and get moved up further if they dominate still.
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I’ve always said they should be in their own conferences, but that’s a great idea. I like it. RSM wouldn’t be doing in baseball and football what they’re doing now if they were in 3A
 
These stories have been around forever. The St. Louis county pubic schools never dispute a transfer, because others come to them.

We have a catholic school in our county just outside St. Louis county and they recruit very well. They have the entire county which houses about 7 or 8 districts. Occasionally they dip into St. Louis county. Boys BB coach is a HoFer with multiple state titles.
 
Fryowa said:
I’ve always said they should be in their own conferences, but that’s a great idea. I like it. RSM wouldn’t be doing in baseball and football what they’re doing now if they were in 3A
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It makes a huge difference.

Just did a quick look at IL playoffs

5A 1 private school out of 8 left.
6A 2 of 8
7A 2 of 8
8A 1 of 8

4A 3 of 8
3A 1 of 8
2A 2 of 8
1A 0 of 8

I think that a school can petition to move down if they don't dominate. The 2A school is really small and hasn't been that good until recently. of 64 teams left, 12 are private schools.

8 man is not IHSA sanctioned but their own association.
 
HawkGold said:
In IL Pontiac was a 4A /5Apower. They snagged a small school qb. Coach was banned from coaching and Pontiac has been terrible since. IL doesn't have open enrollment. IL basically has private schools play up 2 classes and get moved up further if they dominate still.

Schools bounce around in class anyway as they are classed by enrollment based on who qualifies by record and opponent record.
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This is the way it should be here in Iowa as well.
 
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