Hawks cant handle illinois fans in carver

NorthKCHawk said:
I can't believe we are giving this issue this kind of run, but I do like that Fry is hijacking the thread to discuss customs and vacations. Good work.

Small point for those screaming fraud. To be clear, the boys and girls club is not the victim. These guys tried to get cheaper tix out of Iowa's athletic department. So, Iowa is the potential victim here by not getting full price for those tickets that they care so much about that they are now giving them away to the boys and girls club. As has been discussed at nauseum, college athletics is a billion dollar industry. I don't think a couple bucks off a MBB ticket that probably would have gone unsold anyway is putting Iowa's athletic department into ruin. No charity was defrauded here. A charity's name was used to try and grift cheaper tickets from a very wealthy entity.

College kids make mischevious choices at times. I did. I bet most of you did dumb things when you were 19. No one got hurt here and there was no possibility anyone could have gotten hurt here. The notion that this is a gateway crime and needs to be further punished is as hyperbolic as the dumbass troll who started this thread.

Now, back to exchange rates......
Click to expand...
Well, this game is sold out, so in this particular case, tickets for this game were actually at a premium. No one was scammed, but, when The Orange Krush put out that public statement to put Iowa on blast, it forced Iowa to show it's hand, which I am sure they weren't planning to do. Again, F around, find out. While the Boys and Girls clubs weren't defrauded, you have to understand how weak it is to pose as that to get cheaper seats to a basketball game. It's illegal, Iowa wouldn't have made that move without knowing were they would come out on this.

Is it ok for someone to pretend to be disabled to get premium seating at sporting events and concerts? I mean, no one is getting hurt right? But that takes a special kind of creep - and i am positive that ticketmaster or the venue could rightfully invalidate their ticket

How bout if I just say I worked at a few places that I didn't on my resume. I mean, no one lost any money, we're all good right? No, that's illegal. It's not ok because you're a young kid and didn't know better. It's not ok because no one lost any money.

What about if I pose to have cancer? That cool? No one is losing money and I might get some sympathy or maybe get some free comps. No one is getting hurt. We're good

It's fraud. Period. Iowa won't pursue it, but they could
 
Last edited:
Northside Hawk said:
National media seems to be taking Illinois' side on this, focusing mainly on the late notice with which Iowa cancelled the tickets, spoiling all their fundraising work, and thus not giving Illinois any chance for alternate plans.

They are focusing very little on the facts that what Illinois did was fraudulent, and that they have done it repeatedly in the past.
Click to expand...
I am yet to see any national media back IL - please share if you see it. Everything that I've seen that's came to back IL has been met with serious backlash on social media.
 
Fryowa said:
It’s hopeless. I have a cousin who is one generation younger than me and just got started working for the Postal Service at age 26. Has great opportunities for retirement accounts but he declines everything. He’s all in on crypto and whatever else Elon Musk is doing, and thinks that’s his ticket to retirement. He’s a typical, makes-good-money-but-always-broke guy. His last one I heard him talking about a couple Christmases ago was Doge Coin; I don’t follow crypto.

The best thing about getting my business degree wasn’t any of the high-level stuff because nerds have made that obsolete. The important thing was really learning and studying the effect of interest and TVM. If you understand how interest works and what TVM is, you can easily make choices that will allow you to function well in society and retire someday. You don’t have to be a poindexter to participate. They could easily reach both of those topics (interest and TVM) in high school, but they don’t.

And that’s how you end up with dudes like my cousin living off social security when he’s 68 and never taking care of himself because he can’t afford it.
Click to expand...

My brother is a very senior guy in an insurance company. Went to Iowa State. Not a numbers guy but just stellar at dealing with people and they could send him to Louisiana, California, Arkansas or wherever and he would come back with massive deals in his pocket. No bullshitting, this guy didn't know what CAGR meant until he got assigned to assist a team from McKinsey in developing a plan for an internal reorg about 10 years ago. He's now 50 years old. He hadn't heard of the Rule of 72 until this project and he only found out about it because he was amazed at how quickly the McK bros could guesstimate when something would double or quadruple in their heads so he asked for the math. Him calling me to brag about this "new math" that he had learned really undermined my confidence in large institutions. And Iowa State. But he did poli-sci and music in undergrad so maybe the math requirements were pretty watered down compared to what I went through.
 
InGoodCo said:
Well, this game is sold out, so in this particular case, tickets for this game were actually at a premium. No one was scammed, but, when The Orange Krush put out that public statement to put Iowa on blast, it forced Iowa to show it's hand, which I am sure they weren't planning to do. Again, F around, find out. While the Boys and Girls clubs weren't defrauded, you have to understand how weak it is to pose as that to get cheaper seats to a basketball game. It's illegal, Iowa wouldn't have made that move without knowing were they would come out on this.

Is it ok for someone to pretend to be disabled to get premium seating at sporting events and concerts? I mean, no one is getting hurt right? But that takes a special kind of creep - and i am positive that ticketmaster or the venue could rightfully invalidate their ticket

How bout if I just say I worked at a few places that I didn't on my resume. I mean, no one lost any money, we're all good right? No, that's illegal. It's not ok because you're a young kid and didn't know better. It's not ok because no one lost any money.

What about if I pose to have cancer? That cool? No one is losing money and I might get some sympathy or maybe get some free comps. No one is getting hurt. We're good

It's fraud. Period. Iowa won't pursue it, but they could
Click to expand...
...... and it's wire fraud. People go to prison for wire fraud. This is why it has to be taken seriously and not just passed of as "didn't we all make bad decisions when young".

I think it should be really discussed nationally that wire fraud was committed.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
...... and it's wire fraud. People go to prison for wire fraud. This is why it has to be taken seriously and not just passed of as "didn't we all make bad decisions when young".

I think it should be really discussed nationally that wire fraud was committed.
Click to expand...
I could be wrong, but I also think that Iowa could be culpable if they willingly knew this was fraud and participated in it. IE, once they found out, they had to take action.
 
Dadman said:
Almost wish that the tickets would have been re-issued, only the seats would have been spaced far apart...........we could have looked at the crown and tried to spot them-kinda like a "Where's Waldo?" exercise!
Click to expand...
I was thinking about something like that. We will accrue and line up 200 lawn chairs on the bluff on the Mississippi River (on the Illinois side of course), and they can watch from there.
 
Fryowa said:
I don’t get bent about it. Or football. There’s too much other stuff in life. I want to win no doubt about it, but I get over losses real fast.

What will really kill me is when Woods leaves because Iowa won’t give him a coordinator job. I know for a fact he wants to retire in Iowa City, but Kurt is gonna make sure he and Brain go down in flames with the ship. At the point LW leaves, the Hayden era is over full stop and we are back to being the another nebraska/Purdue/Illinois/Minnesota on repeat, looking for the next schlep to to waste 4 years at a crack of our time going 6-6, while we older dudes come here and complain, wishing for the old days of Hawkeye culture back.

When that happens I’ll more than likely bow out. The Hayden Fry way and attitude and culture is what I’ve loved about Hawkeye football since I was old enough to remember; when that’s gone I don’t really have anything to get excited about. I’ll find something to replace it. It’ll be a shame no doubt, but life goes on.
Click to expand...
I know many twenty and thirty something Badger fans who know of nothing but the Alvarez way for as long as they can remember. They aren't old enough to remember the cesspool post Dave McClain and pre Barry, or how messed up the athletic department was in general.
 
Fryowa said:
It’s hopeless. I have a cousin who is one generation younger than me and just got started working for the Postal Service at age 26. Has great opportunities for retirement accounts but he declines everything. He’s all in on crypto and whatever else Elon Musk is doing, and thinks that’s his ticket to retirement. He’s a typical, makes-good-money-but-always-broke guy. His last one I heard him talking about a couple Christmases ago was Doge Coin; I don’t follow crypto.

The best thing about getting my business degree wasn’t any of the high-level stuff because nerds have made that obsolete. The important thing was really learning and studying the effect of interest and TVM. If you understand how interest works and what TVM is, you can easily make choices that will allow you to function well in society and retire someday. You don’t have to be a poindexter to participate. They could easily reach both of those topics (interest and TVM) in high school, but they don’t.

And that’s how you end up with dudes like my cousin living off social security when he’s 68 and never taking care of himself because he can’t afford it.
Click to expand...
Solid post and everything you said is spot on. Forgoing a 401(K) plan with a match is like giving away free money. Makes no sense.

As for cyrpto, you might as well head to the casino and try your luck....
 
haydensly said:
Solid post and everything you said is spot on. Forgoing a 401(K) plan with a match is like giving away free money. Makes no sense.

As for cyrpto, you might as well head to the casino and try your luck....
Click to expand...
Agree but some 401s give you little choice on inesnents.
 
Northside Hawk said:
Iowa would have all the media leverage in the world and Barta would still find a way to screw it up. It reminds me of the scene in Up In Smoke where Sgt Stadenko orders one of his men to shoot the tires and instead of shooting Cheech and Chong's van the idiot shoots the tires of his own squad car.
Click to expand...
Classic movie. My favorite scene is when the cop on a motorcycle pulls them over after inhaling their exhaust for a couple of miles, then, instead of asking for the usual license and proof of insurance, asks them for a bite of a donut.
 
#1DieHardHawk said:
Classic movie. My favorite scene is when the cop on a motorcycle pulls them over after inhaling their exhaust for a couple of miles, then, instead of asking for the usual license and proof of insurance, asks them for a bite of a donut.
Click to expand...
Now. That is funny.
 
PR6WOW8n
 
HuckFinn said:
Crowd went wild. F U Illni
Click to expand...
Now this is how you do it, announcers praising Iowa and calling no foul. Great PR move and the right thing to do. Like Bardo said, a great look for the university and a lifetime memory for these kids. Kudos.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Share this page

Top