go watch some of Greg Davis' masterpieces from his Texas days on youtube. He's kinda sucked wherever he's been
Greg Davis Still Sucks
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go watch some of Greg Davis' masterpieces from his Texas days on youtube. He's kinda sucked wherever he's been
hawkeyebob62
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More than ever...
HomerChampless
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You boobs, those who think a different OC is going to make any difference...KF has always been in charge of the offense and his offense is always conservative. Is always designed to not make mistakes. For example, Wadley fumbles for the first time this year (I think) and is benched for long stretches of the Illinois game? Davis didn't do that. KF did. KF certainly would rather have an offense that ran the ball most of the time. KF would rather have Daniels run the ball most of the time.
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I've got no problem with conservative, especially this year. If anything, they're not dialing up the run enough between the tackles.
It's the garbage sweeps, reverses, etc that I hate. Not getting Wadley in space until 8 games into the season. Not using the middle of the field for slants. I could go on.
HomerChampless
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You ever heard of stacking the box?
You seem to be defending GD. Or at the very least trying to paint a picture that he is hamstrung.
Here's what I know. GD is Iowa's offensive coordinator. Iowa's total offense is 121 out of 128. Behind teams like Buffalo and Kansas. He's at the top of the Offensive org chart, so the results fall on him.
deanvogs
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KOK performed much better under the same "constrictions", Yet according to Homer this shouldn't be, as KF holds all OC back.
The fact is of course other OC's could do much better than GD is doing. There are a lot of innovative pro style offenses out there.
HawkeyeWalker
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Wadley is a stud. He didnt get "benched". Daniels went for 158 and 2 touchdown.... both averaged about 6 yards per carry so all s good... Not sure what the issue is here... Daniels fumbled as well btw...
Wadley had many more touches last week, he was more effective. was this against KF's wishes?
CAR YDS AVG TD LONG
L. Daniels Jr. 26 159 6.1 2 50
A. Wadley 13 82 6.3 1 21
Wadley is awesome, but Daniels is underappreciated some.
HawkeyeWalker
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Now this is criticism I agree with.
HawkeyeWalker
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Bingo. also, canning Davis won't cost $30millon.
HomerChampless
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Was Daniels' fumble a change of possession to Illinois? I don't think so.
Wadley is another viable pass receiver in the Iowa offense. Every time the ball is passed to Daniels, one can almost hear an audible clank. Some of you guys complain about Iowa's passing offense yet say Daniels is interchangeable with Wadley in Iowa's offense. No he's not. Daniels can't catch the ball. Daniels isn't as fast nor as elusive. Can't stretch the field like Wadley.
Taking Wadley out of the Illinois game for long stretches was a result of KF's meddling in Iowa's offense not Davis'.
Like I've posted before:a change in OC IS NOT going to change Iowa's offense, KF is ultimately in control. And, well, KF cares more about the defense than the offense. If the offense doesn't make mistakes, that's all that matters to KF. Have you ever seen KF take out a featured defensive back (like King, for example) after allowing a long pass play, a mistake in coverage? Think back to the Penn State game. That would never happen yet Wadley got yanked in the Illinois game after a fumble.
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deanvogs
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Wrong. When KOK was here the passing offense was much better than it is now. How can that be, the offense should be the EXACT same if what you say is true.
The Greg Davis passing scheme is completely different than the KOK passing scheme. The next OC will have a different passing game from either of them. KOK passing scheme produced way better results than the Greg Davis passing schemes, and the next guy will have different results than either KOK or Greg Davis as well.
If you don't understand the job of a OC, you should really just quit blathering on an on making yourself look like an idiot. KF doesn't tell Davis what passing schemes to run. KF doens't tell GD what route combinations to run. KF doesn't make the play calls during a game.
A different OC will have different results. It will be hard to perform worse than Greg Davis' passing results, so I imagine that nearly anyone will be an improvement over him.
KCHawkeye
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Think of it like business. KF is CEO and GD is a division head. If a division is preforming poorly, then the head of that division is reorg'd or let go entirely. If the entire company is preforming poorly. Then CEO and almost everyone below is reshuffled. Iowa is 7-4, so I'd say the company as a whole is doing okay. But the offensive branch needs a shakeup.
HomerChampless
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Think of it as KF meddling in the offense. Something that he knows so little about. His idea of offense is to make sure the offense doesn't make mistakes and to stay out of the way of the defense.
CJ as QB? Forget it unless KF's job is on the line. You realize if KF had his way, Rudock would've been Iowa's QB last season and CJ would've transferred somewhere else? For that we have to be thankful KF's job was on the line. That Willes would've transferred somewhere else? That Weigher would've transferred somewhere else? That Mitchell would never have sniffed the field? What is it now, KF, is Mitchell in your dog house???
In KF's perfect world, Weisman is the lead running back. KMM is the lead receiver. Daniels is the lead running back. Rudock is the QB. All running backs have to block like O-Linemen. That the offense isn't explosive. That the offense's main goal is to waste game clock and not make mistakes...and then haters of Iowa's offense bitch about the offense??? You realize this same stupid refrain about bad Iowa offense came from these haters under KOK?
With KF in control of the offense, there's never any no-huddle offense. The running back that fumbles is immediately yanked from the game 'cause running backs aren't all that important in the great scheme of things. I don't know how long you've been an Iowa football fan but do you realize it wasn't all that long ago (less than 10 years) that Iowa's receivers of punts were told to let the ball roll instead of risking the chance of a muff and a turnover? Can you guess where that edict came from?
On a sidenote, that the secondary is always a super soft Tampa 2 zone defense? That no Iowa secondary player under KF ever makes it great in an NFL secondary because they aren't taught the concepts of man-to-man pass defense? That maybe this is why Calloway de-committed from Iowa?
KF doesn't know offense (or defense) except for the O-Line. KF if you want to meddle in something you know about offense, meddle with your son's job. The O-Line part of your son's job.
That the only consistently 'good' part of Iowa's offense is the O-Line? That the only thing KF knows on offense or defense is the O-Line? That KF has to control everything?
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deanvogs
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Oh Homer......I admire your bravery, and your willingness to put your full crazy on display for everyone to see. Your crazy is a special kind of crazy that is a glory to behold!
HomerChampless
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You can't just dismiss my statements with a blanket statement. Tell me where I'm crazy. I dare you.
HawkGold
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You guys meeting in Dubuque too?
deanvogs
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-made QB switch cause job on the line?
-prefers Weisman type at RB, yet never recruits white FB to play tailback?
-wants KMM as led WR, um why not dude could get separation?
-Ran off Willies, LOL
-Ran off Whegher, double LOL
-main goal of offense is to run clock, the. Why pass the ball?
-people who fumble are yanked, yet both Wadley and Daniels fumbled and played after that.
That was just quick from my phone on what I could remember off the top of my head.