Greg Davis Still Sucks
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Offensive or all up? Seems to me DST/ST has put some points on the board this year.
You have to take into account that GD and his wife are best friends with Kirk and his wife. It factors in, right or wrong.
I knew they were friends but didn't know this close. That sucks. I'm hoping between actual results, GD's own plans, and pressure from Barta and the high falutin alumni, we find our way to change. We need it so badly.
deanvogs
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That is exactly how I think about it. I'm like, no way he comes back........right????
I'm hoping the only reason that Davis came back this year was because CJ was a Sr and he wanted to see that through......hopefully he just rides off into the sunset on his own at the end of he year.
You guys are hilarious. Would you leave a job where, clearly, your performance doesn't matter and you get paid close to $700k?
He is 65, not 45.. Davis is on a one year deal, so 'retirement' would be a nice way to spin it.
hawkeyes87
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I wouldn't say you're crazy, but I WOULD say you have a strange love of "that". And it's not a healthy love.
HomerChampless
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How many of you Davis haters have 'chastised' KF for yanking Wadley for extended minutes in the Illinois game for Wadley's fumble in the red zone knowing Wadley has become a viable pass threat in this offense? Ah, none....but you want to criticize the passing game for lack of yardage? Me smells more of an offense hater than a genuine concern for the passing offense.
BTW Dean, Daniels' fumble went out of bounds and there was no change of possession. KF (the master of all offense in his own mind) just likes to harp on Wadley's weight, his blocking and his fumbling. Another BTW, I think the Illinois fumble was the first fumble for Wadley this season.
BTW Dean, Daniels' fumble went out of bounds and there was no change of possession. KF (the master of all offense in his own mind) just likes to harp on Wadley's weight, his blocking and his fumbling. Another BTW, I think the Illinois fumble was the first fumble for Wadley this season.
Ummm. What?
deanvogs
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I'm really worried about you Homer. Daniels fumble happened on the field, and he didn't get sat down. Wadley's fumble happened at the end of the 2nd quarter and Wadley was on the field in the beginning of the 3rd qtr. He was never sat a play for that fumble, just stayed with the regular rotation.
The problem is now in your crazy mind Homer you will forever say that Wadley was bench for fumbling (not true), just like you say KF ran Willies out of the program (not true he quit) and that KF ran Wegher out of the program (not true). It is like these made up wacko theories of your replace reality in your head. Like I said I am seriosly worried about ya Homer.
deanvogs
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That is about all his post deserve in response. Maybe I am the crazy one for engaging with the crazy guy.
Joshbrown
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Despite minor differences, I agree with most of what you've said in this thread. Kirk's team wins in spite of him, not because of him. It was Norm and KOK who deserve much of the credit for the wins before 2012. I'll give Kirk credit for signing good players. But how much scouting did/does Kirk actually do??????
His conservative style sends the wrong message to his players. On defense, we don't blitz, cuz Kirk doesn't have confidence the D will get to the QB. On offense we don't throw the ball deep until the 4th quarter, when we're in desperation mode. Cuz Kirk is worried about sacks and interceptions and doesn't have confidence those plays will result in something good cuz he doesn't have confidence in his QBs and his WRs. The message he sends out publicly and privately to his players is that Iowa has the same chance of winning against Michigan as it does against NDSU. Which is why for every great win there are two losses of epic proportions. If all Kirk did was win the games he was favored in his record would be better than it is.
Kirk has only 1 win against Ohio State and I can forgive that because of their advantages. But I can't excuse all the ridiculous losses to directional schools. In my signature are 3 schools that Fry completely owned. Kirk doesn't own other programs (outside of Penn State which is praiseworthy I admit) because he doesn't understand how to harness the emotion of his players to own another program. Kirk imo is great at just one thing: Convincing people to lower their expectations of his program and then convincing them he is a genius for exceeding said low expectations.
If I told my boss, "Hey boss, I'm only gonna show up for work 60% of the time in 2016." And then at the end of 2016 I came to my boss and said, "Hey boss, I actually showed up for work 65% of the time. So you need to give me a big raise and more job security before someone steals me away."
My boss would reply, "No one is gonna steal you away. And I'm an idiot to keep rewarding you. But I'm gonna fix my lunacy. You're fired."
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HawkeyeWalker
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If he is brought back, my respect for Ferentz will be shaken. There is simply no evidence to support bringing him back, none. I defend KF a lot, even with his warts, but retaining Davis (and record vs. poop teams), I cannot defend.
Let him "retire", fine, hell I don't care if you wanna pay him a few years pay.... But if he won't step away, he better get canned.
120th in Total Offense.....no...just no.
HawkeyeWalker
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Agreed (God, I hope so). Clearly, KF is not an offensive minded coach and probably never will be, I think we all agree there. But never in his tenure have we been even close to the bottom 1% in total offense in the country !
If our total offense was somewhere around 60-70 overall rank....we'd likely be 10-1 right now, 9-2 at worst and 1 game from B1G West title.
I don't expect massive changes, nor am I delusional enough to think we will ever be a top 20 offense of KF....but 120th in the country....no... F no.
WinOneThisCentury
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I think the truly surprising thing about this thread is that there are 7 other teams that are worse than us offensively. I have a question...if your wide receivers can't get in sync with your QB after two years in the program...if a freshman can't come in and make an impact at WR...could it be your scheme is too complicated and the reads at the line of scrimmage are ridiculously complex. Hell, you could have a receiver turn toward the sideline before the snap and get a signal as to what route to run. No thinking...just doing.
HomerChampless
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If Daniels fumbled in the Illinois game, why wasn't Daniels yanked for great amounts of minutes like Wadley? What was the running attempt ratio, Daniels to Wadley, in the Illinois game? Let's see, it was Wadley 13/39 rushing attempts and Daniels 26/39 rushing attempts. Reception ratio was Daniels 1/3 and Wadley 2/3. Of the 2 backs, Daniels had the ball 27/42 times and Wadley had the ball 15/42 times. Daniels had the ball almost twice as much as Wadley in the Illinois game. http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/545373/leshun-daniels-jr
Have we found another flaw with Davis' game plan? Hum?
Next question is the number of 'clanks' Daniels had as a targeted pass receiver compared to Wadley in the Illinois game?
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deanvogs
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After Wadley's Fumble Iowa ran out the 1st half clock pretty much. 1st possession of the 2nd half, Wadley was in on 3rd down......So the "purgatory" you are talking for Wadley is literally one 3 and out series to run out the clock at the end of the 1st half.
Just stop already.....or at least watch the games and have at least a little bit of a clue what you are talking about.