Gopher Players threaten to Boycott Bowl Game.

Ickehawk said:
I will not pass judgement until I watch the whole video. And you know I'm good at breaking down video. And I have to agree with ShockHawk for about the first time. Gang bangs and gang rapes are nothing new...everyone video taping EVERYTHING is though. I find it disgusting and deplorable.
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But not so disgusting and deplorable that you won't watch the video?
 
ATLHawkeye said:
When I was a student at Iowa many years ago, I found myself in a room with 10 members of the Iowa Women's Track and Field team. One thing lead to another and before I knew it they had each had their way with me, sexually, one after another. Yes, it was consensual, but they should have known not to take advantage of me in that way!

Maybe it was one of those types of deals. They're fairly common, right?
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I bet you didn't turn in your high school math teacher either.
 
RobHowe said:
Here's the report on the university investigation:

http://kstp.com/sports/university-o...eport-gophers-football-players/4347059/?cat=1
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Don't know the full extent of what occurred, but, this is not something to be made light of. I have a fairly high tolerance level for off color humor, but this is wrong, even if it's not determined to be illegal. You're talking about someone's kid, regardless of the lack of discretion or good judgment made by her, or worse, the coercion exercised over her that evening. I don't know enough to render any legal judgment, but it's sad either way.
 
RobHowe said:
Pretty chilling report from university investigation. Tough to read.
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Read the report folks. As noted, chilling.

I am no saint, but I'll tell ya, you have to be human vermin to support the actions of the players directly involved in this, and then condone the subsequent actions of the team members as a whole. The University of Minnesota Administration has to cover its reputation on this one. Tracy Claeys, who tweeted his full support of the team, with exclamation point no less, needs to be gone, immediately! . The members of the team need to be dismissed from the football program, including loss of remaining scholarships. The U of M needs to clean house, starting from scratch with all new coaches and all new players in its football program. Bowl game be damned! This is WAY beyond a dumpster fire.

I live in Minnesota, I have a daughter who is thinking of attending the U of M. I guarantee the response of the University Administration will play a part in my allowing my daughter to go there. If you have a daughter of this age, I think you can relate. If you don't, you just don't understand what parenting involves.
 
This is indeed a very sad occurrence. I may be jumping to conclusions here, so forgive me, but I firmly believe that if the detailed version of the events is even close to the truth, the players involved should be kicked off the football team and out of school.

I don't believe any assumption of "consent" can be made when the intimidation factor is so very strong, particularly when heavy alcohol use by the woman is involved. A sort of "mob mentality" appeared to have taken over among the males that is totally disgusting at many levels.

The basic question for me is simply this: Why in the world would any male with any sense of decency participate in an event like this? I am not an expert in the law and I am not really interested in some lengthy legal interpretations of what happened. The actions of these individuals are inexcusable. End of story.
 
Madman, I read your post after I wrote my own. I hope everyone reads your response and takes it to heart. You are to be commended for your stance on this issue.
 
Madman said:
Read the report folks. As noted, chilling.

I am no saint, but I'll tell ya, you have to be human vermin to support the actions of the players directly involved in this, and then condone the subsequent actions of the team members as a whole. The University of Minnesota Administration has to cover its reputation on this one. Tracy Claeys, who tweeted his full support of the team, with exclamation point no less, needs to be gone, immediately! . The members of the team need to be dismissed from the football program, including loss of remaining scholarships. The U of M needs to clean house, starting from scratch with all new coaches and all new players in its football program. Bowl game be damned! This is WAY beyond a dumpster fire.

I live in Minnesota, I have a daughter who is thinking of attending the U of M. I guarantee the response of the University Administration will play a part in my allowing my daughter to go there. If you have a daughter of this age, I think you can relate. If you don't, you just don't understand what parenting involves.
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I can relate. My daughter is at the U currently. Claeys sealed his fate, he's done.
 
HuckFinn said:
Madman, I read your post after I wrote my own. I hope everyone reads your response and takes it to heart. You are to be commended for your stance on this issue.
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Thank you. I don't know how many people feel as I do, but I certainly hope it is the majority.
 
As one of the ten fans that was going to watch this game, I'm disappointed they would boycott. Geez, Is Jerry Sandusky advising Tracy Claeys in this situation. What a moronic thing to do.
 
If anyone for a moment can not imagine that a woman (not a large one at that) how intimidated she would feel by those football players I feel sorry for you. She reported right away. At that point I feel we owe her the credibility that appears to be there. 2nd point how stupid do the players have to be in this day and age to put themselves in this situation? The University really has no choice in my opinion but to go after the players for violation of the student code of conduct and the repercussions that go with it.
 
thawks1 said:
If anyone for a moment can not imagine that a woman (not a large one at that) how intimidated she would feel by those football players I feel sorry for you. She reported right away. At that point I feel we owe her the credibility that appears to be there. 2nd point how stupid do the players have to be in this day and age to put themselves in this situation? The University really has no choice in my opinion but to go after the players for violation of the student code of conduct and the repercussions that go with it.
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Stupid enough to become their "friend" in social media. They must not have understood what was happening.
 
A little over a year ago football players at Mizzou had the ability to bring down an administration and force the resignation of a college President.

Oh how times have changed. I for one am happy that for the first time in quite a while the children aren't in charge of the adults. I hope this trend continues.
 
It will be interesting to see what the Big Ten does, if Minnesota gives up the bowl bid. This takes money out of the Big Ten bowl pot. The Goophs should forfeit their share.
 
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