I don't know Kicker. Its hard to say when you don't know the dynamics of the team. I don't want to see him tarnish his reputation. But you sorta have to trust the guy that he knows what he is doing. He built it and he has everything riding on it. I don't know. Its a tough call
Fran needs to get his anger under control
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kicker22
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I question the "learning the response of the BT refs". Are you saying he honestly thinks he can have the meltdowns/tantrums that he does and truly does it to experiment what he can get away with in the future? I don't think his tantrums are that well thought out and more of a heat of the moment loss of control thing.
I definitely understand testing an official to establish what their boundaries are or to "light a fire", but I question the timing of these T's. How big a run was Wiscy on when he got the first T? and as physical as MSU was playing he gets that worked up over a travel? I just don't understand it. NOt calling you out but want to make sure that is what you were meaning or if i misinterpreted something.
WindsorHawk
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I know you're not a troll. This is what I think. I think every T Fran has gotten has been planned...except the 2nd T at Wisconsin which was partially the fault of the official IMO. I think it's strategic. Whether is works to our advantage or our disadvantage is up for debate. However, Fran is the head coach and gets to make the final decision. If it is a negative and Barta decides it outweighs the positives then he can make a coaching change...would suggest firing Barta on the spot if this were to happen.
kicker22
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I agree with this 100%. I honestly think he's passionate and simply cannot control it. Just my opinion and it also explains the fire on the court and how he seems completely different off the court. Just wish he could keep it under control at times.
LG210
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Fran knows what he is doing. He is a very strategic communicator.
This has been obvious since Day 1--his initial press conference. In that presser, he hit on every single buzz word that was being bantered about on HN and other fan forums. Every single one. That wasn't a coincidence. He learned about his intended audience and then skillfully communicated to it.
Since that time we have seen him use interviews and pressers to communicate not only ostensibly to fans and the media, but also to his players. How many times did he say in an interview that JO is the greatest shooter he has ever seen? That wasn't for the fans, that was an attempt to boost JO's confidence, and it appears to have worked as JO now seems to have accepted that he is, in fact, a very good shooter.
Sometimes the folks on this forum remind me of all those Hickory residents that were absolutely baffled by Coach Norman Dale and failed to realize that all of his smaller actions and decisions were part of a much bigger plan.
Have some faith. Fran knows what he is doing.
WindsorHawk
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Dale analogy is a good one...bigger plan.
clicheusername3
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Cliche says: At the end of the day, he'd like to have those 6 points back from Fran's temper tantrums.
If you can't burn through the fuel of the spirit winds then you better be willing to fight for your life on the frozen battle ships of the tribes of the netherrealm.
If you can't burn through the fuel of the spirit winds then you better be willing to fight for your life on the frozen battle ships of the tribes of the netherrealm.
LG210
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LawVHawk
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Not saying Fran shouldn't be passionate or emotional during games. He should; I like that about the guy, especially relative to his predecessor. No problem with him arguing a call and getting the occasional technical (although I think he can take lessons from Izzo, Matta, Ryan and a few others on how to effectively dissent without getting T'd up, but that's a whole 'nother thread.)
My problem is hitting, kicking or slamming objects. Those are classic signs of anger management issues. Your wives, co-workers, bosses, parents let you slam things at work or in your house, or kick things across the floor? I doubt they do. Or at least they shouldn't. Anyone who grew up in an abusive household knows what I'm getting at. (Fortunately, I didn't, but have learned a thing or two along the way about managing one's anger.)
We're lucky, so far, that a slammed chair didn't hurt a player or member of his staff, or that a kicked object didn't hit a fan or worker or member of the media. It's immature behavior and Fran needs to stop it.
twinhawkfans
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My old high school coach had a reputation for being tough on the officials and getting more than his share of T's.......when asked by a local reporter for the paper late in his career about riding the officials his reply was....."I love everyone of these kids and I want them to be treated fairly, they deserve that....it's about the players. I have nothing against the officials"
HawkPrdatr40
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I do agree a bit with the OP, that Fran needs to control himself and without a doubt Fran is a bit over the top with his reactions and it has cost Iowa.
I'm also loving some of the responses because I know this if Fran coached at another Big Ten team Hawk Fan would be shredding him for his antics..
I'm also loving some of the responses because I know this if Fran coached at another Big Ten team Hawk Fan would be shredding him for his antics..
Fran's an animated guy. Although he doesn't get too high or too low during a course of a season, the highs and lows certainly come during the course of each game.
I believe it to be more of a coaching style than anything. I think it is effective in that his players respond to it.
Would I prefer if he was slightly less animated? In certain circumstances, yes. In others, I feel it is appropriate. Echoing what one of the above posters said, I could do without the destruction of property.
But Fran is an individual, not a robot. If he feels he needs to change to be a better coach, then so be it. If Fran feels he has to change due to outside pressure, I don't think that will have any positive effect on the team's performance.
One thing I would like to commend Fran on is his behavior in front of the media. Many of us would be criticizing the officials, players, and anyone else we could think of after a loss, whereas Fran keeps his composure, gives the other team its due, points the finger at himself, and doesn't criticize officiating or his guys. I think that shows that he really IS in control of his emotions.
I believe it to be more of a coaching style than anything. I think it is effective in that his players respond to it.
Would I prefer if he was slightly less animated? In certain circumstances, yes. In others, I feel it is appropriate. Echoing what one of the above posters said, I could do without the destruction of property.
But Fran is an individual, not a robot. If he feels he needs to change to be a better coach, then so be it. If Fran feels he has to change due to outside pressure, I don't think that will have any positive effect on the team's performance.
One thing I would like to commend Fran on is his behavior in front of the media. Many of us would be criticizing the officials, players, and anyone else we could think of after a loss, whereas Fran keeps his composure, gives the other team its due, points the finger at himself, and doesn't criticize officiating or his guys. I think that shows that he really IS in control of his emotions.
Skeets77
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Whatever your opinion is on his style it could have an effect on recruiting and the caliber of athlete Iowa would like to have. As a parent if I had a 4 or 5 star kid I'm not sure Iowa would be on my radar with Fran's obvious anger issues and his inability at times to communicate appropriately. It reflects on the integrity of the program IMO. Management at any level frowns upon this type of behavior and the negative effects it can have on a work environment or program.
LawVHawk
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I think that's the right approach, and good for him for looking out for his players. Did he also slam chairs, kick the scorer's table, knock things across the floor?
clicheusername3
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Ya I agree I thought we did things, "The Right Way (TM)". This doesn't seem to be the right way to me.
LawVHawk
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When you go home tonight kick the wall, slam a kitchen chair to the floor and kick something off the counter. See if anyone else in your casa finds it "laughable."
