Fran is banking extra ship until 2019.

They should improve some based on the experience of the players they have coming back (hopefully including Cook) but we've been through what needs to be done ad nauseum. I will stick with the prediction of a 7th-8th finish in the BIG which would leave them on the outside looking once again for the Dance. It would be nice to see them force some dribble drive to go east and west once in a while and challenge a post player at the rim once in a while.
 
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Northside Hawk said:
They should improve some based on the experience of the players they have coming back (hopefully including Cook) but we've been through what needs to be done ad nauseum. I will stick with the prediction of a 7-8 finish in the BIG which would leave them on the outside looking once again for the Dance. It would be nice to see them force some dribble drive to go east and west once in a while and challenge a post player at the rim once in a while.
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In the words of @hawkdrummer1, we’re just too white. This squad doesn’t have the physicality to come out and play man against P6 basketball players, and we all saw what happened when they play zone. Cook wasn’t some brick wall defensive player either and he’s likely gone anyway. This is really a matter of recruiting a bunch of young, skinny shooting guards and trying to miracle them into playing forward. The Big Ten is too fast and physical nowadays, and the other conferences are even tougher yet. Recruiting bean pole Iowa AAU kids, who play other Iowa bean poles and way overmatched high schoolers doesn’t cut it anymore.

Garza was a good grab, but Nunge, the McCafferys, and Wieskamp ain’t the answer. Yeah they look like Dr. J playing AAU ball, but that doesn’t translate to this level. Someone needs to be a physical presence down low and someone needs to be a threat to come meet players up top and stop drives, threaten steals, etc. None of our incomers are that.
 
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In the words of @hawkdrummer1, we’re just too white. This squad doesn’t have the physicality to come out and play man against P6 basketball players, and we all saw what happened when they play zone. Cook wasn’t some brick wall defensive player either and he’s likely gone anyway. This is really a matter of recruiting a bunch of young, skinny shooting guards and trying to miracle them into playing forward. The Big Ten is too fast and physical nowadays, and the other conferences are even tougher yet. Recruiting bean pole Iowa AAU kids, who play other Iowa bean poles and way overmatched high schoolers doesn’t cut it anymore.

Garza was a good grab, but Nunge, the McCafferys, and Wieskamp ain’t the answer. Yeah they look like Dr. J playing AAU ball, but that doesn’t translate to this level. Someone needs to be a physical presence down low and someone needs to be a threat to come meet players up top and stop drives, threaten steals, etc. None of our incomers are that.
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You might enjoy a little crow over time. Weiskamp is one of the highest rated recruits to ever come to Iowa city. Let him play a year or two before saying how awful he is going to be. Nunge is a big and will get much better over time. His ceiling is quite high. Uthoff wasn’t dominating right away either. Was Jared terrible too since he wasn’t black?
 
How is Wieskamp not the answer? If we had 5 people as skilled as him at their position, we would win conference titles and final 4s.
 
Fryowa said:
In the words of @hawkdrummer1, we’re just too white. This squad doesn’t have the physicality to come out and play man against P6 basketball players, and we all saw what happened when they play zone. Cook wasn’t some brick wall defensive player either and he’s likely gone anyway. This is really a matter of recruiting a bunch of young, skinny shooting guards and trying to miracle them into playing forward. The Big Ten is too fast and physical nowadays, and the other conferences are even tougher yet. Recruiting bean pole Iowa AAU kids, who play other Iowa bean poles and way overmatched high schoolers doesn’t cut it anymore.

Garza was a good grab, but Nunge, the McCafferys, and Wieskamp ain’t the answer. Yeah they look like Dr. J playing AAU ball, but that doesn’t translate to this level. Someone needs to be a physical presence down low and someone needs to be a threat to come meet players up top and stop drives, threaten steals, etc. None of our incomers are that.
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Donte Divincenzo(sp?) loves you man. :)
 
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PCHawk said:
How is Wieskamp not the answer? If we had 5 people as skilled as him at their position, we would win conference titles and final 4s.
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Fryowa said:
In the words of @hawkdrummer1, we’re just too white. This squad doesn’t have the physicality to come out and play man against P6 basketball players, and we all saw what happened when they play zone. Cook wasn’t some brick wall defensive player either and he’s likely gone anyway. This is really a matter of recruiting a bunch of young, skinny shooting guards and trying to miracle them into playing forward. The Big Ten is too fast and physical nowadays, and the other conferences are even tougher yet. Recruiting bean pole Iowa AAU kids, who play other Iowa bean poles and way overmatched high schoolers doesn’t cut it anymore.

Garza was a good grab, but Nunge, the McCafferys, and Wieskamp ain’t the answer. Yeah they look like Dr. J playing AAU ball, but that doesn’t translate to this level. Someone needs to be a physical presence down low and someone needs to be a threat to come meet players up top and stop drives, threaten steals, etc. None of our incomers are that.
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This may all come to fruition. Or it may not. They could finish dead last or as high as fourth or fifth. You didn't bring it up, but I'm also not buying that Fran is going to spend the next couple of years coasting on his contract. This is his livelihood. Whack an assistant? Probably should have happened, but it's not going to.

We're seven months from the start of the next season and all of us are undefeated. Let's hope the returning players learned some hard lessons and have some pride. A poster recently said we've become the softest team in the league. Well it's time to start turning that around.
 
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You might enjoy a little crow over time. Weiskamp is one of the highest rated recruits to ever come to Iowa city. Let him play a year or two before saying how awful he is going to be. Nunge is a big and will get much better over time. His ceiling is quite high. Uthoff wasn’t dominating right away either. Was Jared terrible too since he wasn’t black?
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Weiskamp looks like the real deal. Nunge could be a good one too. But they're only two guys... look at the rest of the roster. Too soft, too "un-athletic, etc. Fran's typical template. Imagine Weiskamp on a team with balanced talent, some physical beasts, a couple of great ball handlers etc. He could look like Bird. On a team of ....well, what we've seen lately...not so much.
 
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Sure am. If you have to ask that, you don't know much about Wieskamp.
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Let's see just how good he turns out to be. (I'm hoping very.) But you still need a roster full of talented athletes, players who can not only shoot but play hard-assed defense, athletic players, to win the conference championship and compete in the Final Four. It can't just be a bunch of skinny white AAU players.
 
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Let's see just how good he turns out to be. (I'm hoping very.) But you still need a roster full of talented athletes, players who can not only shoot but play hard-assed defense, athletic players, to win the conference championship and compete in the Final Four. It can't just be a bunch of skinny white AAU players.
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I said 5 players with his ability at all positions. That doesn't mean 5 6'6" white guys. It means one point guard that is as good as Wieskamp. One center who is as good as Wieskamp. And so on.
 
Fryowa said:
In the words of @hawkdrummer1, we’re just too white. This squad doesn’t have the physicality to come out and play man against P6 basketball players, and we all saw what happened when they play zone. Cook wasn’t some brick wall defensive player either and he’s likely gone anyway. This is really a matter of recruiting a bunch of young, skinny shooting guards and trying to miracle them into playing forward. The Big Ten is too fast and physical nowadays, and the other conferences are even tougher yet. Recruiting bean pole Iowa AAU kids, who play other Iowa bean poles and way overmatched high schoolers doesn’t cut it anymore.

Garza was a good grab, but Nunge, the McCafferys, and Wieskamp ain’t the answer. Yeah they look like Dr. J playing AAU ball, but that doesn’t translate to this level. Someone needs to be a physical presence down low and someone needs to be a threat to come meet players up top and stop drives, threaten steals, etc. None of our incomers are that.
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This is the University of I-o-w-a. The 5 ****star, 6'11" and 290 pound true centers go to Duke and Kentucky etc... They won't want to come to Iowa until we prove we belong with the big boys. That is what Fran is trying to build here. Baby steps. Last yr was a step back. Marble, White, Uthoff, Jok and Cook are steps in the right direction. Just need some more time. Stay optimistic, please!
 
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