Football hiring thoughts

I agree lets not compare him to McDaniels, with McD I dont think it was as much about age as it was maturity. He went into Denver and the first thing he did was stab the starting QB in the back. Cutler was gaining a lot of popularity and Denver has a solid little system being grown and McD burned it all. I dont have much doubt Brian is way more mature at this point in his career and if they made him OC tomorrow I would be ok with it. I like the idea of grooming him not throwing him right into the fire. Either way Kirk having a son right next to him day in and day out would be a good thing. Someone not afraid to bark at him from time to time.
 
metahawk said:
This aspect bothers me as well. Nothing against the move, having him back at IA as an OL coach would be awesome. However, the fact that the Patriots "invested" in him, the time put in and his success in that organization, etc. ..only to have him leave a year or two later? That part doesn't quite add up. Unless NFL teams just expect departures as being the norm, and plan accordingly.
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Football is a transient business. It's part of the deal for most people. They hired him as personnel assistant. It's not like they paid the Chargers a million bucks to pluck him from their front office.
 
JonDMiller said:
Brian would have an opportunity to earn about $200k per year, minimum, to be Iowa's OL coach...and return to live in a place he has live in longer than any other in his life, work for his father and coach one brother and be around the other brother, plus gain more experience at a different position coach, a position he played in the college game.

He's probably not going to get a HC coaching job without more positional experience...these guys have to grind for a while (typically) before they can become HC's at even smaller schools. Look at most coaching resumes, and you will see that.

What on earth is unattractive about any of that?
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I am not saying its unattractive at all. I am saying it's a pretty selfless option for him to return as OL coach if that's truly what happens here. I think he's on a path where he could arguably be set up for more attractive, lucrative opportunities where he is at now.
 
hogeye said:
I am not saying its unattractive at all. I am saying it's a pretty selfless option for him to return as OL coach if that's truly what happens here. I think he's on a path where he could arguably be set up for more attractive, lucrative opportunities where he is at now.
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Things like this come down to what people place a value on...what's important...Bigger isn't always better...perhaps Brian is more fond of the college game? Who knows. But this is a pretty amazing opportunity if it's something he finds attractive. It's not about what we place value on, or what the world thinks is a better or more attractive option. It's a personal opinion.
 
He is also married to an Iowa girl who may be interested in moving back. Biological clock ticking...
 
metahawk said:
This aspect bothers me as well. Nothing against the move, having him back at IA as an OL coach would be awesome. However, the fact that the Patriots "invested" in him, the time put in and his success in that organization, etc. ..only to have him leave a year or two later? That part doesn't quite add up. Unless NFL teams just expect departures as being the norm, and plan accordingly.
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Some people actually care about proximity to family, love Iowa City, & God-forbid prefer the college game to the pros...You need to expand your criteria a bit, methinks...
 
It would be great to again have an offensive line coach that actually knew what he was doing from day 1.
 
One thing I will never forget about BF from 2004. He made a public statement that the players on the team were ****** that all of the publicity of that year seemed to say that the reason the team was doing so well was because of KF. Would seem to say he has a mind of his own.
 
JonDMiller said:
Things like this come down to what people place a value on...what's important...Bigger isn't always better...perhaps Brian is more fond of the college game? Who knows. But this is a pretty amazing opportunity if it's something he finds attractive. It's not about what we place value on, or what the world thinks is a better or more attractive option. It's a personal opinion.
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I am not contesting that. I am saying all things considered he should be commended for it if this is truly how it plays out.

I was simply painting that picture...remove Iowa and family from the equation, and saying on the surface, to most people, it doesn't back sense and it's a backwards move. Nothing more, nothing less, than providing perspective.

You're response to me is exactly the point I am underscoring.
 
JonDMiller said:
I am more convinced now than ever that Brian Ferentz will become Iowa's OL coach, and I think it would be a good hire. I also wonder if there isn't something to the Tom Moore thread from the other day...and if not Moore, then some 'mentor' like that and Brian could ultimately become the OC. I'd be fine with that too.

Here is what I wrote about Brian last week:

The open offensive line position is very intriguing. Given Iowa waited so long to make these announcement (until after the Superbowl), many of us speculated that one of Iowa’s new hires would come from either the Giants or Patriots. Otherwise, why wait so long to make these announcements public? Instead of Jim Herrmann as Defensive Coordinator, as was speculated on at great length this weekend and early in the week, Iowa hires Phil Parker from in house.

Perhaps Iowa’s offensive line coach currently resides in an NFL organization? Would Kirk Ferentz hire his son Brian to take over that position? It makes sense.

Some might say Brian is ‘too young’ or doesn’t have enough experience, but he is on an identical career path to that of Josh McDaniel. McDaniel was coffee fetcher for the Patriots early on, just as Brian was. McDaniel was then promoted to a positon coach, just as Brian was this year (tight ends). McDaniel became the Patriots official offensive coordinator at the age of 30, although he was likely calling the plays for the Patriots at the age of 29, the year after Charlie Weiss left New Englad for Notre Dame and a year when the Patriots didn’t officially have an offensive coordinator.

Brian Ferentz will be 29 in March. There had been a bit of speculation the past two months from folks in Boston and throughout the Northeast that Brian could be in line for play calling duties with the Patriots; he is well thought of out there.

So for some to say that he would not be qualified to be an offensive line coach in the Big Ten, I just flatly disagree. What was on Reese Morgan’s resume before he became Iowa’s offensive line coach? He was a long time high school football head coach in the state of Iowa.

Brian Ferentz was a three-year starter on the offensive line for the University of Iowa and has been exposed to one of the preeminent football minds of this generation, Bill Belichick, for the past four years. I’d be more than fine with Brian Ferentz being Iowa’s offensive line coach.

There will be some people who would view such a hire with skepticism due to the family tie. If Kirk hires Brian, nobody would be more sensitive to such a move than Kirk. Brian would be hired on merit; if his name were Brian Smith and Iowa hired him from the Patriots with a similar resume as a coach and player, I doubt people would object.
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Jon,

You are not more convinced now than ever, but you give no reason why you are more convinced?? Please explian why? I agree it will be a great hire. From Brian's perspective...come back home and start/raise a family in Iowa City while furthering my career. Sounds like a great idea.
 
ICbornNraised said:
Jon,

You are not more convinced now than ever, but you give no reason why you are more convinced?? Please explian why? I agree it will be a great hire. From Brian's perspective...come back home and start/raise a family in Iowa City while furthering my career. Sounds like a great idea.
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This was my initial question as well. I read the post and wondered what exactly is the recent happening that made you more convinced than you were after the Morgan switch to DL?

Is there more to this?
 
tom43 said:
One thing I will never forget about BF from 2004. He made a public statement that the players on the team were ****** that all of the publicity of that year seemed to say that the reason the team was doing so well was because of KF. Would seem to say he has a mind of his own.
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Hes definitely his own man. When James got his 2nd drinking ticket, Brian told him to transfer because he was embarrassing the family. LOL
 
I think Brian would be a good fit at Iowa. If he really flourished,he could be a candidate to replace his dad. Of course,that would mean that his dad flourished also,and that Iowa had a good string of years in KF's last 8 years.
Unlikely? Perhaps, but you never know. JayPa was despised by many PSU fans because they thought he was a bad o-coordinator,and their offense stunk. Well, maybe Iowa would be successful under Brian if he eventually moved up to O-coordinator,and then Iowa fans would love the continuity.
 
Remember that Josh McDaniel is responsible for Denver drafting Tim Tebow in the first round.
 
JonDMiller said:
I am more convinced now than ever that Brian Ferentz will become Iowa's OL coach, and I think it would be a good hire. I also wonder if there isn't something to the Tom Moore thread from the other day...and if not Moore, then some 'mentor' like that and Brian could ultimately become the OC. I'd be fine with that too.

Here is what I wrote about Brian last week:

The open offensive line position is very intriguing. Given Iowa waited so long to make these announcement (until after the Superbowl), many of us speculated that one of Iowa’s new hires would come from either the Giants or Patriots. Otherwise, why wait so long to make these announcements public? Instead of Jim Herrmann as Defensive Coordinator, as was speculated on at great length this weekend and early in the week, Iowa hires Phil Parker from in house.

Perhaps Iowa’s offensive line coach currently resides in an NFL organization? Would Kirk Ferentz hire his son Brian to take over that position? It makes sense.

Some might say Brian is ‘too young’ or doesn’t have enough experience, but he is on an identical career path to that of Josh McDaniel. McDaniel was coffee fetcher for the Patriots early on, just as Brian was. McDaniel was then promoted to a positon coach, just as Brian was this year (tight ends). McDaniel became the Patriots official offensive coordinator at the age of 30, although he was likely calling the plays for the Patriots at the age of 29, the year after Charlie Weiss left New Englad for Notre Dame and a year when the Patriots didn’t officially have an offensive coordinator.

Brian Ferentz will be 29 in March. There had been a bit of speculation the past two months from folks in Boston and throughout the Northeast that Brian could be in line for play calling duties with the Patriots; he is well thought of out there.

So for some to say that he would not be qualified to be an offensive line coach in the Big Ten, I just flatly disagree. What was on Reese Morgan’s resume before he became Iowa’s offensive line coach? He was a long time high school football head coach in the state of Iowa.

Brian Ferentz was a three-year starter on the offensive line for the University of Iowa and has been exposed to one of the preeminent football minds of this generation, Bill Belichick, for the past four years. I’d be more than fine with Brian Ferentz being Iowa’s offensive line coach.

There will be some people who would view such a hire with skepticism due to the family tie. If Kirk hires Brian, nobody would be more sensitive to such a move than Kirk. Brian would be hired on merit; if his name were Brian Smith and Iowa hired him from the Patriots with a similar resume as a coach and player, I doubt people would object.
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I have absolutely no problem with this hire. I've always felt KF was largely the defacto co-OL coach. He, obviously, had a lot of input on the offensive line. Brian, would be a natural fit as Reese's replacement there. Even more so now with the Pat's coaching experience.

My concern is getting a legit OC in there. No I'm not expecting there to be major changes in the scheme and the run-first emphasis but, would like some changes in the kinds of plays run. Iowa, under Ferentz will always be more about execution than trying to trick the opponenet or spread the defense, but I'd like more variety in the kinds of plays run out of the formations ala. Chryst, Bellotti.
 
Montanahawk said:
My concern is getting a legit OC in there. No I'm not expecting there to be major changes in the scheme and the run-first emphasis but, would like some changes in the kinds of plays run. Iowa, under Ferentz will always be more about execution than trying to trick the opponenet or spread the defense, but I'd like more variety in the kinds of plays run out of the formations ala. Chryst, Bellotti.
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I agree, a wholesale schematic change isn't necessary. I wouldn't mind seeing some more diversity in play calling either, but that said...if the play calling stayed mostly the same, I don't think even that was our biggest problem.

My biggest reservation about KOK was his ability to develop QB's. And, in some respect, I think our general ability to recruit QB's as well. I think if Northwestern can recruit and develop guys then we should be able to do much better than we are.

If nothing else changed significantly, but we did a better job recruiting and developing QB...I think most of our issues on offense are resolved.

When we've had good talent coupled with good execution at that position this offense is a proven commodity.
 
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