Embarrassed to be a Hawkeye fan...
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hawkinn3
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HEY! A troll topic...let me try my hand at this...
I think we can all agree that those with a degree from the University of Iowa are superior fans to the ignorant and lazy fans who never obtained advanced degrees.
You can see on here that they try to make themselves feel better by claiming those with degrees have less than fulfilling careers, but they know better.
The fact they even bring this up means they have a deep seated self loathing and jealousy of others who had the determination to obtain a degree.
You can buy season tickets and you can fill your particle board dresser with hawk gear but youll never have a degree with the beautiful crest of THE UNIVERSITY OF IOWA on it hanging in your office. (for that matter youll never have an office, cubicles don't count)
Our (those with degrees from the UNVIVERSITY OF IOWA) opinions count more and when we say something, have the courtesy to listen and use it to make yourself a little less ignorant. That is all.
I think we can all agree that those with a degree from the University of Iowa are superior fans to the ignorant and lazy fans who never obtained advanced degrees.
You can see on here that they try to make themselves feel better by claiming those with degrees have less than fulfilling careers, but they know better.
The fact they even bring this up means they have a deep seated self loathing and jealousy of others who had the determination to obtain a degree.
You can buy season tickets and you can fill your particle board dresser with hawk gear but youll never have a degree with the beautiful crest of THE UNIVERSITY OF IOWA on it hanging in your office. (for that matter youll never have an office, cubicles don't count)
Our (those with degrees from the UNVIVERSITY OF IOWA) opinions count more and when we say something, have the courtesy to listen and use it to make yourself a little less ignorant. That is all.
GOOD POST
njq3
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I don't have a degree, but I do have an office (it even has a door and a window to the outside). Does my opinion semi-count?
FreedComanche
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You have to realize that most the this board is, at the very least, ok with kf. I know it's difficult to accept with the current condition of Iowa Football, but it's the truth at present. You and I and Ooth and a few others on here are in the extreme minority. So accept posts that put kf in a good light on here. Once you do, you won't be so surprised. I know this seems almost impossible to accept. And I can't think of another fan base that would be so behind a coach in his 15 year who has allowed a program to decline the way Iowa's has. But................this fan base very much behind kf. And you gotta accept this or else you're gonna go crazy trying to figure out why they post what they do.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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Yeah dont really sell houses. I can but I dont. Things been slow with you? You have been doing a lot of kf defending. I thought you just let that stuff roll in the past. Did you finally snap?
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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You are comparing a program trending up that hit a road bump compared to a program trending down with little signs of slowing while they bottom out on multiple speed bumps a year.
I enjoyed the first half but like a tired athlete Iowa went back to bad habits in the 2nd half. If you go back to your old ways then you have not changed.
1977Hawkeye
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Just speaking for myself, I would be embarrassed to be a Hawkeye fan if our fan base was NOT grumbling about where the program is these days.
If this team really is as improved as some of you keep saying, we should be seeing some wins before long, right? I guess the proof will be in the pudding. If we see another 4-8 type season, I will question how much better the team really is. Good teams don't usually lose more than they win.
If this team really is as improved as some of you keep saying, we should be seeing some wins before long, right? I guess the proof will be in the pudding. If we see another 4-8 type season, I will question how much better the team really is. Good teams don't usually lose more than they win.
INTIMIDATORHawk
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The OP makes some incredibly good points. Hopefully everyone is at least taking time to read his post.
No one should be happy about where Iowa Football is right now, but that doesn't mean we can't look through everything and see the upside.
Kirk has made changes. Big changes! And even though Iowa lost to a GOOD TEAM last Saturday, those changes were on display for everyone to see.
Unfortunately, some people can't see beyond the loss, and others only see what they want to see (because they hate KF and want him gone).
Opinions are like *&*holes.
No one should be happy about where Iowa Football is right now, but that doesn't mean we can't look through everything and see the upside.
Kirk has made changes. Big changes! And even though Iowa lost to a GOOD TEAM last Saturday, those changes were on display for everyone to see.
Unfortunately, some people can't see beyond the loss, and others only see what they want to see (because they hate KF and want him gone).
Opinions are like *&*holes.
tm3308
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This year's schedule is quite a bit tougher, so they can easily be significantly better and not show it in the win column. But you can see many of the pieces for the next couple seasons falling into place. Personally, I think this season could be at least somewhat similar to 2000, where we could see what Ferentz was cooking, even if it wasn't ready to be served yet. A positional breakdown for guys who will still be here for next season or 2015:
QB: Rudock handled himself pretty well for playing his first game in 3 years. He could end up being something special, as I believe many of his issues last week were the result of inexperience and can be pretty easily ironed out.
RB: Weisman and Bullock are here for one more year. I'm very excited to see what LeShun Daniels brings to the table. The hype he was garnering in camp as a young Shonn Greene was certainly enough to grab my attention.
WR: KMM has another year and so does Powell, who I think could develop into a big-play threat similar to C.J. Jones. Smith has two more, and his ceiling is very high, IMO. Hillyer is a guy who I've had an eye on as a sleeper for some time, and he got several targets last week. It'll be interesting to see how he gets used this season.
TE: Krieger-Coble and Duzey both have two years remaining, and Hamilton has one. It remains to be seen how much the tight end will be featured in this offense, though. It needs to be more prominent than it's been.
OL: Never too worried about this unit. But Scherff has (presumably) one more year, but Walsh and Blythe (who looked very good last week) are both just sophomores and Donnal is also back for one more year.
DL: This group was definitely improved last week, and we have a slew of guys who are sophomore or younger (Cooper, Ott, Ekakite, Johnson, Meier) and both Davis and Trinca-Passat have another year. The future could be quite bright for this group.
LB: Definite reloading to do here after this season. Alston has one more season, but after him, IDK.
DB: Lomax is only a sophomore, and I think he's the next lockdown corner for this defense. King played pretty well for a true freshman when he was forced into action last week, and Draper wasn't bad, either. All of those guys have at least two years left. Safety is a question mark, but we don't know yet how Lowdermilk will pan out. Rueben Lile and Maurice Fleming are also in the wings. Parker has a very good track record with our defensive backs, so I think the odds of getting less than 2 stars from this group are pretty long. Lomax and one of Lile and Fleming should blossom over the next few years, at the very least.
I still think this team wins 5 or 6 games this year, which isn't a huge step forward in wins; but neither was going from 1 win to 3. It's next season and the year after where I think we'll see a serious uptick in the win column. I don't see Ferentz getting a serious extension if that kind of success does materialize, either. I don't know if it's something that can be done, but I'd maybe give him an "extension", with something in the fine print that says he will step down when his current deal expires in 2020 (or sooner, if he so chooses) and include a very small buyout. That could ward off the lame duck period in recruiting.
ThunderHawk
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Why would Kurt be given any extension if he wins games at the level expected of a 4 Mil Per coach? You give extensions when you're concerned about your coach being plucked away. If Gar Bar is concerned about that, then he needs to get a psych eval. I also don't think he'd sign off on an "extension" that forces him to quit in 2020 or includes a smaller buyout. There's nothing in his rational self interest that would entice him to do so.
What Kurt REALLY needs to do is check his ego at the door, come to terms with the pathological mistakes he keeps making, and f'n evolve. His ego is the root of his demise.
What Kurt REALLY needs to do is check his ego at the door, come to terms with the pathological mistakes he keeps making, and f'n evolve. His ego is the root of his demise.
tm3308
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You also give extensions when you don't want recruits backing out because they aren't sure if the current coach will be there for four years. Knowing a coach will be gone very soon can seriously hurt recruiting in any sport (see: Tom Davis).
And what if Ferentz actually does plan to step down at the end of his current deal (a very plausible possibility)? I should have just left out the buyout, since Ferentz would be retiring and therefore wouldn't be entitled to a buyout.
Like I said, it would essentially only be for appearances. He still wouldn't be coaching past 2020 (in my scenario, anyway).
HerkeyHawk
Banned
To play devil's advocate here...what is more damaging to a program?
1. Recruits that come and go (only seem to be going lately) on an annual basis?
or
2. A head coach with an ego who can't win at home and coaches himself out of games regularly?
HuskerlandHawk
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He just did this on Saturday...and you're still b*tchin'.
You're so blinded by your hate of Ferentz and the fact we lost that you can't see the changes he made.
ThunderHawk
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If KF is still here as we approach 2020, it will mean that he has turned things around.
okeefe4prez
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Agreed. If you look at the coaching legends like Paterno, Schembechler, etc., you'll notice that they all had some pretty down seasons during their tenures in which they had to reboot the program. Ferentz had that season last year and he'll have us back where we belong shortly if we just give him time.
ThunderHawk
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I saw some refreshing changes. For a while at least. And then I saw:
Another fake punt executed against us. And why not...it always works.
Abandoning the run when it was carving up their D. Throwing a bomb on 3rd and 1, only to punt on 4th down. WTF is that? It's like being half pregnant. You're either in or you're not.
Another horribly inopportune Pick Six Special sideline route call; a play that should be purged from the playbook.
Habitual inability of the D to get off the field on 3rd and long.
Pathological victory-snuffing mistakes plaguing the program on a seemingly weekly basis.
Take the red pill, brah. I'm just the messenger.
Billso
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Legendary coach (and 2012 National Coach of the Year) Bill Snyder just lost to FCS North Dakota State. They must be extra embarrassed to be Wildcat fans.
I'm disappointed in the NIU outcome, the fake punt, and the last play call, but heartened by Rudock's debut and overall team offensive progress.
HomerChampless
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Include the loons who think Iowa would have won if they'd only run on 3rd and 1.... There was a noticeable liveliness on offense compared to last season.
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HomerChampless
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A troll is in the eye of the beholder... Can we stop with the troll accusation foolishness?
