DuffMan
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No they don't, and Calipari just took a ******* blowtorch to the team in the post game.
Down goes Kentucky 57-59 to Robert Moris
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No they don't, and Calipari just took a ******* blowtorch to the team in the post game.
hawkdrummer1
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Except Robert Morris doesn't even qualify as a "Mid Major"
Sirhouseman
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Bobby Mo!!!
If you remember back to Iowa in the 1998 NIT, they played Georgia in Carver, which was not even half full, and didn't really bother playing defense and got beat 100-93.
At the time, Iowa either didn't want to be there or felt the NIT was beneath them too.
Successful programs have that problem.
At the time, Iowa either didn't want to be there or felt the NIT was beneath them too.
Successful programs have that problem.
ssckelley
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Part of the problem that season is we expected Iowa to be in the tournament that year and it was a shock to us when they got left out, it effected the players as well. But I know there has been other NIT games in Carver that had respectable attendance (see Alford years). I am guessing had Iowa beaten Michigan State in the BTT and still got left out of the NCAA then the attitude towards this game (and ticket sales) would be different.
I do not buy the "we did not want to be there" deal. If that is the deal, I would fire the coach that day. I do not care if you are playing a HS team, you play the best you can. We see it all the time in FB, by some of the logic going around here most D1 schools would lose almost all their non cons.
People who compete, compete and it does not matter who it is against.
If you really did not want to be there, you would run the score way way up, and show them just how far above them you are, you do not quit.
People who compete, compete and it does not matter who it is against.
If you really did not want to be there, you would run the score way way up, and show them just how far above them you are, you do not quit.
I'm not buying the Kentucky is above the NIT and didn't want to be there so they just mailed it in. If that was the case then when they got down by 10-15 a few times they would have just given up and got beat by 20+, but that didn't happen, they fought back and had a chance of winning. Maybe individuals didn't want to be there, but for the most part the team wanted to be. Their coach even said he could tell a couple didn't want to be there so they didn't play the rest of the game. Maybe they thought it wouldn't be a challenge and were caught off guard, but for the most part they wanted to win. People who say they didn't want to be there must not of seen Kentucky play other games as they looked like garbage before.
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Section136
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Yeah I would fire Calipari because his team came out uninspired to play in the NIT.
He won the national title last year and is bringing in quite possibly the best recruiting class in the history of college basketball for next season.
More sound logic from oldfart.
Your logic is: he is such a good coach, he could not get his team interested in playing another team? How do they win non cons against far less talented teams?
I would hate to see a team you coach. Losing stinks, winning is the name of the game, it does not matter if it is against a NT, or the old folks home down the road. Any coach or player that does not think that way, should not be coaching/playing.
Section136
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Then I take it your are advocating the firing of Fran. Its obvious he did not have his team ready to compete in the 2nd half up in Ann Arbor earlier in the year.
There is quite a difference in playing a non con game in November or December then playing one in a worthless postseason tourney when you just missed out on playing in the tourney that counts.
Not surprised that you cant see that difference.
trj
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Ricky Davis, Dean Oliver, and Ryan Bowen would disagree, but hey Tom Davis wanted to press against a bunch of 6'6 dudes with gigantic wingspans that could run the floor in front of less than 5000 people. That sealed Tom Davis's fate a week or two later Bowlsby/Gable were off to visit some cat named Alford.
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Section136
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Whatev.
Hardly, if you do not set out to win and do everything you can to win everytime, like I said you have no place playing/coaching the game. If it is any other way, you are promoting a sub standard product. Kind of works that way in life as well. "oh well we are used to filling orders of 10,000, so screw this order for 1,000, we can just put out a substandard product, or to heck with it, we just wont fill it at all".
Sorry Charlie, it does not work that way. If it does, than I am the greatest at everything ever. I just was not interested, when I got beat.
trj
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Easy smart a$$, TD's fate was sealed after that NIT game, but it was after the sweet 16 run the following year that Gable/Bowlsby decided to take a visit. I thought you were on hiatus, break from the message boards, couldn't resist could you?
Section136
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Easy smart a$$, TD's fate was sealed after that NIT game, but it was after the sweet 16 run the following year that Gable/Bowlsby decided to take a visit. I thought you were on hiatus, break from the message boards, couldn't resist could you?
Came back a couple weeks ago acutally.
Creepy stalker is creepy.
No personal attacks and dont try and outsmart the profanity filter. Not a good ending.
trj
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Dude, I ain't stalking you, get over yourself, good gawd. Brah, you really take yourself that seriously?
Section136
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tm3308
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Kentucky won a national championship last year. The NIT is considered beneath them, as it should be for a program of their stature. It's not hard to see why they would be disinterested, unless you've gone blind in your old age.
trj
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tm3308
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Actually, I think it's a lot more comparable to how high rollers get treated in Vegas. Those guys get the royal treatment from casinos, they're on first-name basis with the owners, etc. Meanwhile, a guy like me is just another sucker about to lose a couple hundred bucks; they don't give a **** about me.
Kentucky is a program accustomed to working almost exclusively with high-rollers (in more ways than just in my metaphor, actually). The NIT is a waste of time for them, just like some schmuck like me would be for an actual casino owner.
