DC PF Luka Garza Officially Visiting This Weekend

Hawk5656 said:
Still can't believe people use highlight clips to determine players abilities when big time college coaches are out there offering scholarships to the same player
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Would you like me to provide you a list of busts that Louisville Georgetown, Indiana and Pitt have signed over the years? I can.
It's not uncommon for programs to over-recruit when you consider the volume of transfers every year. I'm interested in where he ends up and I will follow his career because I don't see the same thing these other coaches see.
When I see a slow footed or flat footed player, I simply try and imagine what kind of competition they will be facing I the different conferences.
Someone mentioned Acie Earl. As a young adult, I thought pretty highly of Earl until I saw Rodney Rodgers destroy him in the NCAA tournament. Earl had 5 inches and a large wingspan advantage. Didn't matter much because Earl couldn't move his feet to defend him.
Remember Glenn Worley? Human highlight of the reach in foul. He couldn't move his feet so he was in foul trouble early and often on the defensive end.
I don't recall if either or both had flat feet but they had slow feet. It didn't hurt us until we played guys that had similar size and faster, more athletic feet.
 
I mentioned the likeness to Acie. Look up youtubes of Acie and look at the film of Garza. You'll see they both looked flat footed and heavy legged. Acie spent four years with the Boston Celtics so who knows what a player can do even if he looks awkward running.
 
TJHawkeye said:
I mentioned the likeness to Acie. Look up youtubes of Acie and look at the film of Garza. You'll see they both looked flat footed and heavy legged. Acie spent four years with the Boston Celtics so who knows what a player can do even if he looks awkward running.
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Don't argue with Lightning, he is a BB genius. He would have passed on Acie, and he would pass on Luka, both suck, and will never be any good at all. Lightning has decreed it, so it shall be, he is a BB genius, just ask him, he coaches somewhere. He also talked to 2 other coaches, and they agreed, Luka sucks.
 
lightning1 said:
Would you like me to provide you a list of busts that Louisville Georgetown, Indiana and Pitt have signed over the years? I can.
It's not uncommon for programs to over-recruit when you consider the volume of transfers every year. I'm interested in where he ends up and I will follow his career because I don't see the same thing these other coaches see.
When I see a slow footed or flat footed player, I simply try and imagine what kind of competition they will be facing I the different conferences.
Someone mentioned Acie Earl. As a young adult, I thought pretty highly of Earl until I saw Rodney Rodgers destroy him in the NCAA tournament. Earl had 5 inches and a large wingspan advantage. Didn't matter much because Earl couldn't move his feet to defend him.
Remember Glenn Worley? Human highlight of the reach in foul. He couldn't move his feet so he was in foul trouble early and often on the defensive end.
I don't recall if either or both had flat feet but they had slow feet. It didn't hurt us until we played guys that had similar size and faster, more athletic feet.
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OMG your taking me back in time... Earl was such an unorthodox player to watch. But against the right matchups he was pretty good. But yeah smaller quicker guys were his kryptonite. Rodney Rodgers was such a good college player too.
Worley was just not a smart player at the defensive end. Yeah he wasn't quick or had any leaping ability. But he just reached like you said all the dang time. How a player could not improve in 4 yrs of college I'll never understand but I would argue his freshman year was his best if I remember right. And injuries had nothing to do with it he just never improved his game and that started with the neck up for him.
 
TJHawkeye said:
I mentioned the likeness to Acie. Look up youtubes of Acie and look at the film of Garza. You'll see they both looked flat footed and heavy legged. Acie spent four years with the Boston Celtics so who knows what a player can do even if he looks awkward running.
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I know why you mentioned it. Acie had other attributes going for him and I saw Acie play his entire career. The few exceptions dont disprove my theory.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
OMG your taking me back in time... Earl was such an unorthodox player to watch. But against the right matchups he was pretty good. But yeah smaller quicker guys were his kryptonite. Rodney Rodgers was such a good college player too.
Worley was just not a smart player at the defensive end. Yeah he wasn't quick or had any leaping ability. But he just reached like you said all the dang time. How a player could not improve in 4 yrs of college I'll never understand but I would argue his freshman year was his best if I remember right. And injuries had nothing to do with it he just never improved his game and that started with the neck up for him.
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Earl was gifted with anticipating shots and blocking them. make no mistake about my choice of words. It is a gift. Coaches spend a lot of time trying to teach post players how to block shots. most of the time their pupils never quite get it.
 
lightning1 said:
Earl was gifted with anticipating shots and blocking them. make no mistake about my choice of words. It is a gift. Coaches spend a lot of time trying to teach post players how to block shots. most of the time their pupils never quite get it.
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Totally agree. There have been hundreds if not thousands of players of his size with more athletic then him that weren't even remotely on his level of a shot blocker. I don't know if shot blocking is a teachable thing so much. Either you have that anticipation in you or you don't cause players are quick and fast at shooting and more and more guards shoot those 10 foot floaters instead of going to the hoop all the way.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Totally agree. There have been hundreds if not thousands of players of his size with more athletic then him that weren't even remotely on his level of a shot blocker. I don't know if shot blocking is a teachable thing so much. Either you have that anticipation in you or you don't cause players are quick and fast at shooting and more and more guards shoot those 10 foot floaters instead of going to the hoop all the way.
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It's a gift. Some have it but most don't.
 
lightning1 said:
It's a gift. Some have it but most don't.
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So you are saying that a deficiency can be overcome by other aspects of their game? I mean go figure, most of us understand that, but people like you with absolutes can't. Luka is viewed by the majority of high level basketball scouts as a top 100ish player. You have declared him a "waste" from viewing a 2 minute video. I know who's opinion that I'm gonna trust......
 
deanvogs said:
So you are saying that a deficiency can be overcome by other aspects of their game? I mean go figure, most of us understand that, but people like you with absolutes can't. Luka is viewed by the majority of high level basketball scouts as a top 100ish player. You have declared him a "waste" from viewing a 2 minute video. I know who's opinion that I'm gonna trust......
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Derp..........Deano.
 
IMO:

- Big men turn out to be busts, when compared to their recruiting rankings, at a much higher clip than any other position.

- Outside of the top 50 type guys the recruiting rankings get less and less meaningful

- I don't have a good grasp on any of his other offers scholarship situations. They could have offers out to a handful of guys, we don't really know.

- I'd prefer Malik Williams obviously, but I also wouldn't mind going best player available. I don't think we necessarily need a big man with Uhl, Wagner, Cook, Pemsl, Kreiner, and potentially Jones slated to return. Either way I wouldn't be disappointed in signing Garza either.
 
NikeHawk21 said:
IMO:

- Big men turn out to be busts, when compared to their recruiting rankings, at a much higher clip than any other position.

- Outside of the top 50 type guys the recruiting rankings get less and less meaningful

- I don't have a good grasp on any of his other offers scholarship situations. They could have offers out to a handful of guys, we don't really know.

- I'd prefer Malik Williams obviously, but I also wouldn't mind going best player available. I don't think we necessarily need a big man with Uhl, Wagner, Cook, Pemsl, Kreiner, and potentially Jones slated to return. Either way I wouldn't be disappointed in signing Garza either.
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Illinois got a commitment from five star center Jeremiah Tilmon. Iowa will get someone that is good.
 
Sounds like Pitino is making a hard push at Malik Williams, and is putting Garza on the back-burner as a fallback. I wonder if he had a talk with Lightning and discovered Garza's flat footedness?
 
deanvogs said:
Sounds like Pitino is making a hard push at Malik Williams, and is putting Garza on the back-burner as a fallback. I wonder if he had a talk with Lightning and discovered Garza's flat footedness?
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Pitino is simply smarter than you are when it comes to basketball. Why would he be any different? Lol.
 
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