cubs vs braves

oifdeserthawk said:
You're right. I'm only an umpire. When would I have ever seen any baseball. Considering I watch literally every single Cubs game that is televised. How can you say it wasn't an awful call? And is it really outside of the realm of possibility that it was legitimately one of the worst calls I have ever seen? When an outfielder makes a catch, he isn't using a bare hand. And he isn't flipping the ball to someone with his glove. The ball is removed from his glove with his hand. The dude's hand never came near his mit. The ball was rolling on the f'ng ground, 3 feet in front of him. It was at no point, ever anything but clearly, not a catch. It was comparable to a quarterback throwing a pass, bouncing it 3 feet in front of a receiver at his feet, and the ball winding up in the receiver's chest, being called a catch. There was nothing "iffy" at all about that call, and considering there are 4 freaking guys out there watching.....I find it extremely hard to believe not a single one of them saw the ball NOT retrieved from his glove, but instead the ground, when the guy rounding first base saw it from 180 feet away.
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oifdeserthawk said:
And no, I didn't think he caught it "in real time", I thought he caught it for a half a second, and then I noticed a.) the ball didn't get retrieved from his glove, hell, it wasn't retrieved from his glove side. and b.) um....the ball was rolling on the ground.....literally for 3 to 4 feet. It wasn't even questionable.
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oifdeserthawk said:
And yes, it completely reshaped the Cubs chances to win, at that moment, quite drastically.
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oifdeserthawk said:
I see that happen all of the time....Umpires out to lunch. Busy watching to see if someone tags, instead of watching to see if a catch is made in the first place. Just like close plays at first. "Tie goes to the runner", if you are entirely too lazy to listen for the pop of the ball hitting the mit while watching for the runner's foot to touch the bag, and then, without hesitating, making sure the catch was in fact made, and making a quick, and selling call, safe or out. The 3rd base umpire was completely ahead of himself, and none of the other 3 guys were paying attention to step one of making the correct call, ensuring the ball was actually caught.
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Take a pill, old man. They missed it, and it happened to kill a potential Cub rally. But to say it's one of the worst calls of all time, or one of the worst you've ever seen, smacks of hyperbole. I can name, without much effort, at least 5 calls - in situations for more important than opening day - that were, and still are, a lot worse than that.

The ball wasn't in front of him, it was behind him - as in he (McLouth) was between the ball and the infield, and therefore screening the umpires. Also, I never said it wasn't a bad call. In fact, I think that in this very thread, I said exactly that on at least two occasions.
 
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Nice stat on ESPN (see below). That's right, 2 Cubbies there!

8 ER Allowed in 2 or Fewer IP Opening Day Starter, Since 1952

Carlos Zambrano, CHC 2010
Kevin Tapani, CHC 1998
Brad Havens, MIN 1983
 
Agree to disagree. But props for playing it off like a catch...I've done the same thing a time or two. The real concern for me, was Zombrano, and the bullpen...I know it's opening day but the only guy that looked all that sharp was Marshall. I was talking before the game today with another Cubs fan and mentioned that the thing that scares me the most about this season, is the Cubs have a lot of guys on their roster that could potentially be getting close to that "drop-off" that occurs when age starts to become a real factor....Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, and more concerning, Big Z....it isn't going to be long before those guys are finishing up their careers as everyday guys.....idk....just kinda bums me out thinking about some of the teams the Cubs have put together these last 8-10 years and they haven't won the big prize....guys can't do what they've done over the years forever....just like seeing guys graduate....senior day always bums me out a little bit...I think Lee and Ramirez have at least a few more good solid seasons in them....but Soriano and Zombrano worry me, especially the amount of money the Cubs invested in Soriano...seems a bit pricey for a guy signed nearly to his 40's.
 
The season is over Cub fans, I heard a stat today that a team that has given up 15 or more runs on opening day has never made the World Series. Looks like that "Wait until next year" saying can be used a little earlier this year.
 
Go Cardinals!!! :D
Magic number is down to 161
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hawkeyescott said:
The season is over Cub fans, I heard a stat today that a team that has given up 15 or more runs on opening day has never made the World Series. Looks like that "Wait until next year" saying can be used a little earlier this year.
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wish it was my job to take those stats



fukudome and ramirez looked good some positives came out of the game



tommorrow could be another bad day for the cubs unless he changes his ways against the braves. dempster is 2-13 against them...yay
 
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hawkeyescott said:
The season is over Cub fans, I heard a stat today that a team that has given up 15 or more runs on opening day has never made the World Series. Looks like that "Wait until next year" saying can be used a little earlier this year.
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Well that certainly is a time saver...see you in August boys!
 
It continues...

Cubs lead the whole game, and Chipper Jones hits go-ahead HR in bottom of 8th to set up Billy Wagner striking out all three batters he faced in the 9th in his Braves debut. LOVE IT! :)
 
HAWKEYESTATE4ever said:
It continues...

Cubs lead the whole game, and Chipper Jones hits go-ahead HR in bottom of 8th to set up Billy Wagner striking out all three batters he faced in the 9th in his Braves debut. LOVE IT! :)
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A questionable call led to the only two Cubs runs....i suppose that made up for the blown call on opening night. Great to see Chipper go yard, especially from the right side of the plate!
 
A tough loss for the Cubbies. Oh well. It's early (I will continue to say this through June). :)
 
Tonight was a tough loss. The new season isn't starting off real well. Many of their defeciancies are showing already, weak bullpen and untimely hitting. As a Cubs fan myself I am not very optimistic and can't wait for football in September.
 
It's only two games, folks...there's still 160 games to go. They never play well against the Braves. A lot of the hits Zambrano gave up the other day were just crazy bloop hits or the eff-up by Theriot/Byrd. (Heyward obviously squared his HR up tho). If they are still playing this way in May, then it's time to be concerned. Let's see what Wells can do tonight.
 
DYK88 said:
It's only two games, folks...there's still 160 games to go. They never play well against the Braves. A lot of the hits Zambrano gave up the other day were just crazy bloop hits or the eff-up by Theriot/Byrd. (Heyward obviously squared his HR up tho). If they are still playing this way in May, then it's time to be concerned. Let's see what Wells can do tonight.
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Wells is going against Tommy Hanson tonight and I don't like the Cubs chances tonight either as I think Hanson is going to be a stud for the Braves.
 
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