Come on Jon.....

Playmaker said:
WoW....I'm just messing with you. You really need to chill out.
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No problem,just don't understand all of the negative post,I thought this was a Hawkeye FAN board not a Hawkeye BASH Board. I'll calm down,lifes to short to be negative all the time.You guys that don't like what's going on have at it if that makes you feel better.Go Hawks
 
I am a fan believe it or not...never miss going to our DFW game watching club. Maybe my expectations are bigger having lived in Dallas for 30 years and having see firsthand what is expected yearly of Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma. Especially drives me crazy that OU fans aren't happy with the coach that SHOULD HAVE BEEN OURS the last 18 years....a coach that has taken them to multiple NC games and won one. Our coach is paid like the coaches at these schools but has VERY LITTLE expected by his school, AD, and fans in comparison. I will always love Iowa football and be a fan....but that does NOT mean that I have to like the bullshit that has went on the last 6-7 years....because I don't, and will never mince words about it.
 
Playmaker said:
I am a fan believe it or not...never miss going to our DFW game watching club. Maybe my expectations are bigger having lived in Dallas for 30 years and having see firsthand what is expected yearly of Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma. Especially drives me crazy that OU fans aren't happy with the coach that SHOULD HAVE BEEN OURS the last 18 years....a coach that has taken them to multiple NC games and won one. Our coach is paid like the coaches at these schools but has VERY LITTLE expected by his school, AD, and fans in comparison. I will always love Iowa football and be a fan....but that does NOT mean that I have to like the bullshit that has went on the last 6-7 years....because I don't, and will never mince words about it.
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Well when you put it that way I can't argue with you.Theres so much that goes on that's out of our hands,just don't feel like they care what our opinion is.Thank you for explaining yourself you didn't have to but you did,again Thank you.FYI,We're heading to Florida next week and should be down there for Iowa's game Sunday.Planning on staying until end of March.Stay out of my house I have a lot of autographed football pictures.
 
GrandpaHawk said:
Well when you put it that way I can't argue with you.Theres so much that goes on that's out of our hands,just don't feel like they care what our opinion is.Thank you for explaining yourself you didn't have to but you did,again Thank you.FYI,We're heading to Florida next week and should be down there for Iowa's game Sunday.Planning on staying until end of March.Stay out of my house I have a lot of autographed football pictures.
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So your going to the Iowa-South Florida baseball game?:rolleyes:
 
Ok, let's get real:

I'll take this season every time....EVERY TIME:

1. Blow out the hated Clowns, 42-3. And it could have been 70-3 very easily.
2. Beat a very good Minnesota team on the road.
3. Defeat #2 Michigan.
4. Defeat #15 Nebraska.
5. Go to a New Year's Day bowl.
6. Come within 2 or 3 plays of the Big Ten title game, again (that was the difference in the Wisconsin game; watch the replay).

All of the above was done without having Vandeberg or Kittle available during the second half of the season (our two best receivers by far).

Was I disappointed we didn't win the West again? Sure....but we were in the hunt....again

I'm not tired of Ferentz at all, and I am excited about the future with him. We will contend for the West in 2017....again
 
ChosenChildren said:
Ok, let's get real:

I'll take this season every time....EVERY TIME:

1. Blow out the hated Clowns, 42-3. And it could have been 70-3 very easily.
2. Beat a very good Minnesota team on the road.
3. Defeat #2 Michigan.
4. Defeat #15 Nebraska.
5. Go to a New Year's Day bowl.
6. Come within 2 or 3 plays of the Big Ten title game, again (that was the difference in the Wisconsin game; watch the replay).

All of the above was done without having Vandeberg or Kittle available during the second half of the season (our two best receivers by far).

Was I disappointed we didn't win the West again? Sure....but we were in the hunt....again

I'm not tired of Ferentz at all, and I am excited about the future with him. We will contend for the West in 2017....again
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I agree with you, it was a good season. It could have been back to back great seasons if we just don't pee the NDSU and jNW games down our legs......and by "we", I mean the coaching staff.
 
ChosenChildren said:
Ok, let's get real:

I'll take this season every time....EVERY TIME:

1. Blow out the hated Clowns, 42-3. And it could have been 70-3 very easily.
2. Beat a very good Minnesota team on the road.
3. Defeat #2 Michigan.
4. Defeat #15 Nebraska.
5. Go to a New Year's Day bowl.
6. Come within 2 or 3 plays of the Big Ten title game, again (that was the difference in the Wisconsin game; watch the replay).

All of the above was done without having Vandeberg or Kittle available during the second half of the season (our two best receivers by far).

Was I disappointed we didn't win the West again? Sure....but we were in the hunt....again

I'm not tired of Ferentz at all, and I am excited about the future with him. We will contend for the West in 2017....again
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Glass half full guy. I like it and agree. They really weren't that far away from having another really good year and that was playing one dimensional football most of it. I think the coaching staff moves. I think the running game with Wadley will be plenty explosive enough with the Oline pretty much all back to help Stanley get off to a good start.
 
----------All of the above was done without having Vandeberg or Kittle available

THAT statement is why we are no where close to being an elite program.....recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.
 
Playmaker said:
----------All of the above was done without having Vandeberg or Kittle available

THAT statement is why we are no where close to being an elite program.....recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.
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When has Iowa ever been an "elite" program? Sure we had a nice run for 8 years under Hayden, and a good 8 year run under KF. Elite though Iowa is not, and likely never will be. Even a MSU's good 6 year run didn't/doesn't make them elite.

If you are grasping for "Elite", you might want to follow a different program, as teams don't just become elite, it take decades of history to do that.
 
-------If you are grasping for "Elite", you might want to follow a different program, as teams don't just become elite, it take decades of history to do that.

Oh shit ***hitting palm against forehead*** why didn't you tell us that sooner? We could have just quit wishing for more than mediocrity a LONG time ago. You idiots should remember we had more Big 10 wins in the 80's than any other school in the Big 10....or is a decade long amount of information considered a fluke and to never be aspired to again. Some of you are sooooo blind to what could have been, and still could be if we had a REAL Head Coach
 
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Oh shit ***hitting palm against forehead*** why didn't you tell us that sooner? We could have just quit wishing for more than mediocrity a LONG time ago. You idiots should remember we had more Big 10 wins in the 80's than any other school in the Big 10....or is a decade long amount of information considered a fluke and to never be aspired to again. Some of you are sooooo blind to what could have been, and still could be if we had a REAL Head Coach
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Do you even bother to figure out if what you say is true, or do you just spout off? In a 10 year span from '81-'90 (I used those years, because 90 was better than 80 for the Hawks). Iowa was tied for second most wins. Michigan had 66 B1G wins, Iowa and OSU both had 55. So Yeah Iowa did well, but we were not close to #1 in wins.

Interestingly enough though, from '01-'10 the Iowa Hawkeyes were 2nd in the B1G in wins as well. OSU had 66 B1G wins and Iowa and Michigan tied with 50 and Wisconsin 47, Penn St. 45, and MSU 37.

So to use your own logic, is a decade long amount of information considered a fluke? Under KF we did the exact same thing that Fry did, and I would contend Fry had a much, much easier road winning games in the B1G in the 80's. Wisconsin was awful, Northwestern was putrid, Illinois was bad, and so was Purdue and Minnesota, basically it was Michigan and OSU and Iowa. KF had to play against good Northwestern teams, and Wisconsin, and Penn St. and OSU and Michigan and Purdue was good as well.

I don't think either run by Iowa (in the 80's and 00's) was elite. It takes being THE BEST in the conference over a 10 year run to reach elite, or a National title, or multiple playoff appearances now. Wisconsin isn't an "elite" program and they have had a very nice run the last 10 years. MSU isn't "elite" and they have had a very good 6 year run. Maybe your standards are lower, but I set the bar high for a extended period of time in order to be considered "elite". Oh, and I can enjoy Iowa being very good, runs like Hayden in the 80's and Ferentz in the 00's are awesome to experience.
 
I can remember hearing numerous times that Iowa had the most wins in the Big 10 in the 80's...but I just found a stat stating that we were actually 3rd....I stand corrected, and you win that point. KF has FOUR should be layup games EVERY season....so he doesn't get credit for S when compared to Fry. And his inability to recruit now exposes us in every bowl game. I win this point.
 
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I can remember hearing numerous times that Iowa had the most wins in the Big 10 in the 80's...but I just found a stat stating that we were actually 3rd....I stand corrected, and you win that point. KF has FOUR should be layup games EVERY season....so he doesn't get credit for S when compared to Fry. And his inability to recruit now exposes us in every bowl game. I win this point.
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You really need to stop. As soon as you said Iowa was #1 in B1G wins in the 80's I knew that was wrong. It is pretty typical the way some on here over inflate what Hayden did during that time and they turn around and say KF is junk, even though Iowa was 2nd in B1G wins over a decade of time under KF.

You might also want to just stop with the KF has 4 wins a year handed to him. It is like you don't even remember what was happening in the 80's. Here the B1G teams with under a 43% winning% from '81-'90

Northwestern 19% winning%
Purdue 35% winning%
Wisconsin 38% winning%
Minnesota 43% winning%
Indiana 43% winning%

Hayden had 5 FREAKING WINS A YEAR HANDED TO HIM ON A PLATTER. Those teams were absolutely putrid.

Here are the bottom B1G teams from '01-'10

Indiana 35% winning%
Illinois 39% winning%
Minnesota 48% winning%
Northwestern 49% winning%

Much tougher competition at the bottom of the B1G for KF during his time here. Every other B1G team was above 50% winning%
 
I had not gone to this thread for awhile and enjoyed the refresher course. Love the stats; just a hobby of mine. But I am kind of lazy and like it best when someone else does the work..thanks!

An observation, and NO sarcasm: As I visit this site daily and read quite a few of the threads, I think I have a pretty good handle on the temperature. I think recently I have noticed that the threads are a lot more civil than in some past times. For me, that is much more enjoyable. It is not that we are all drinking kool aid together, its just that the discussions are just that, discussions. Of course, after a tough loss, we all tend to over react and some of the posts get pretty "out there." But, again, I think I can safely say that even some of the guys that tend toward negative have softened up a bit and added some good stuff to the conversation. I have also noticed some apologies that help avoid back and forth arguments that go no where. Just my thoughts.
 
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