Coker gets snubbed

tm3308 said:
Every team would take him. Half of the conference would take him over anyone they currently have.

Michigan
Northwestern
Minnesota
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois
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I bet Michigan would rather have Toussiant. He was pretty tough after they actually started using him. Other than that, list is pretty good.
 
hoffahawk said:
You know all the **** you talk about Iowa players I'm sure one of the hardest working former hawks would be so happy you picked his name for your screen name to talk **** about his former teammates.

And since when is almost 5 yards a carry being a non factor, hell he was about the only thing on O that worked for most of the game.
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+1

Reminds me of the jerk on HR who goes by Bob Sanders who is always throwing insults at players and recruits.
 
coker can find out the media who didn't vote him 1st and just not answer their questions next year.
 
Coker is among the top but is not the best RB in the B1G. No problem with his placement this year. Something to shoot for next year.
 
hoffahawk said:
You know all the **** you talk about Iowa players I'm sure one of the hardest working former hawks would be so happy you picked his name for your screen name to talk **** about his former teammates.

And since when is almost 5 yards a carry being a non factor, hell he was about the only thing on O that worked for most of the game.
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Had Iowa gone 9-3 or better Coker would have been first team...they tend to give players off the better teams preference and (or) more spots. He wasn't dominating whatsoever in games against strong opponents. He tended to do his best against the worst teams, which most running backs will. Perhaps with a more dynamic offensive scheme he would do better.
 
If Coker was second team, why the hell isn't McCall first team? Everyone knows McCall is better than Coker, but KF is too stubborn to play him!
 
I don't really have a problem with it. The offensive line basically has to gash the defense for coker to get anything. Does he ever make something out of nothing? No. Does he ever make an elusive move and turn a 4 yard run into a 30 yard run? No. People talk about the 250 he had at Minnesota. Did you see the holes he was running through? He should have scored with any wiggle or speed on 2 of them for sure. He got his yards, but did he really put fear into opposing defenses?
 
eveningnewsteam said:
I don't really have a problem with it. The offensive line basically has to gash the defense for coker to get anything. Does he ever make something out of nothing? No. Does he ever make an elusive move and turn a 4 yard run into a 30 yard run? No. People talk about the 250 he had at Minnesota. Did you see the holes he was running through? He should have scored with any wiggle or speed on 2 of them for sure. He got his yards, but did he really put fear into opposing defenses?
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've been saying there were several runs that should have been housed this year and he was no where close. He's a good power back when he can get north and south, but he didn't make something out of nothing very often. He did however make nothing out of something quite often in my opinion.

I've seen posts where people try to compare him to Shonn Greene...well, this year he was no where near that level. Hopefully, his vision improves and he improves.
 
I thought Coker and McNutt were both where they deserved to be.
I don't think Reilly or Shaun had 1st team type seasons. Reilly got blown up a few too many times leaving JVB to get sacked and Shaun found himself out of coverage.

The idea that JVB deserved to be All Big 10 is laughable.

I thought James Ferentz deserved some consideration, as did Keenan Davis. I also thought Jordan Bernstine deserved some accolades as did Micah Hyde.
 
Well if Prater can make 1st team with the pathetic season he had, you know this is a joke. Seriously, how in God's name did Prater even make honorable mention let alone 1st team? The guy got burned for big play after big play after big play all season long.
 
TylerSash said:
Coker was a complete non-factor against the 3 best teams Iowa played: PSU, MSU, Neb.

He was great at piling up a lot of yards against terrible defenses.

That is not 1st team All-B1G material.
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Anyone who thinks that he “nailed it” here is missing the point.

Technically, “non-factor” is correct. However, he was NOT a non-factor because he was INEFFECTIVE. Isn’t that what you were trying to imply?


hawkdrummer1 said:
meaningless stat. they don't play "against" each other. How they performed against the same defenses is a more of an actual "head to head" measure.
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Very good point. How did they play against the same defenses?

Burkhead:
Minn-23 for 117 and 1 TD (5.1avg)
MSU-35 for 130 and 2 TDs (3.7)
Northwestern-22 for 69 and 1 TD (3.1)
Penn St-26 for 121 and 1 TD (4.7)
Michigan-10 for 36 and 0 TD (3.6)
That’s 473 yards on 116 carries with 5 TDs at 4.1 per carry.

Coker:
Minnesota-32 for 252 and 2 TDs (7.9)
MSU-21 for 57 and 1 TD (2.7)
Northwestern-22 for 124 and 2 TDs (5.6)
Penn St-18 for 74 and 0 TDs (4.1)
Michigan-29 for 132 and 2 TDs (4.6)
That’s 639 carries on 122 carries and 7 TDs at 5.2 per carry.

The difference being six more carries for 166 more yards. Coker didn’t have the luxury of defenses having to worry about his mobile QB either. Coker had a better average than Burkhead vs three of those opponents (Minnesota, Northwestern and Michigan), and was only behind Burkhead vs Penn St by 0.6. Even against Nebraska Coker averaged 4.8 yards a carry.
 
BackNBlk said:
Anyone who thinks that he “nailed it” here is missing the point.

Technically, “non-factor” is correct. However, he was NOT a non-factor because he was INEFFECTIVE. Isn’t that what you were trying to imply?




Very good point. How did they play against the same defenses?

Burkhead:
Minn-23 for 117 and 1 TD (5.1avg)
MSU-35 for 130 and 2 TDs (3.7)
Northwestern-22 for 69 and 1 TD (3.1)
Penn St-26 for 121 and 1 TD (4.7)
Michigan-10 for 36 and 0 TD (3.6)
That’s 473 yards on 116 carries with 5 TDs at 4.1 per carry.

Coker:
Minnesota-32 for 252 and 2 TDs (7.9)
MSU-21 for 57 and 1 TD (2.7)
Northwestern-22 for 124 and 2 TDs (5.6)
Penn St-18 for 74 and 0 TDs (4.1)
Michigan-29 for 132 and 2 TDs (4.6)
That’s 639 carries on 122 carries and 7 TDs at 5.2 per carry.

The difference being six more carries for 166 more yards. Coker didn’t have the luxury of defenses having to worry about his mobile QB either. Coker had a better average than Burkhead vs three of those opponents (Minnesota, Northwestern and Michigan), and was only behind Burkhead vs Penn St by 0.6. Even against Nebraska Coker averaged 4.8 yards a carry.
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The Minn game might be a little deceptive considering that Burkhead was pulled for most of the second half, and for all of Cokers stats, Iowa didnt beat the gophers.
 
tm3308 said:
Every team would take him. Half of the conference would take him over anyone they currently have.

Michigan
Northwestern
Minnesota
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois
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i agree - there was a similar post to mine that was posted by JD at the start of the season. I thought it was ridiculous then, and even more so now...
 
ShockRerun said:
The Minn game might be a little deceptive considering that Burkhead was pulled for most of the second half, and for all of Cokers stats, Iowa didnt beat the gophers.
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Deceptive in total yardage only. Coker still had a better average. Coker had nine more carries than Burkhead and if anything, we should have seen Coker's average decrease as his carries grew. It's not for lack of production on Coker's part that they lost either.
 
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