coin flip=offense, bad decision IMO

Did someone really post this. Have we not started every game on offense since like, well its been a long time, unless the other team wins and decides to take the ball. This has absolutely nothing with the game last night because all the players know they are getting the ball first.
 
Every time we don't win someone says that. Ferentz likes to do that, it's not new.

Funny thing is, we've won a lot more then we have lost the last few years and after a win nobody comes on here ******** and crying about taking the ball first. :mad:

There's a lot of reasons that we didn't win that game. Taking the ball first is NOT one of them.
 
So what if Iowa had won the toss and deferred and then AZ marched down the field and scored? I am sure that some would be saying it was a bad decision to give their offense the ball first.

The simple fact is that Iowa has taken the ball first nearly 90% of the time over the last 10 years. So there is a comfort level in doing this.
 
adaptation, is being so predictable a good thing? 90% of our opponents were not this arizona team we played last night in this situation...
 
No one's touched on this yet, but as poorly as our special teams played in the first half, who's to say that if we elected to kick our defense even steps on the field. Bottom line the coin toss had nothing to do with whether we won or lost, we came out of the gate flat and the coverage on special teams that we'd had problems with in the two previous games bit us.
IMO we were the better team last night, but were not good enough to come out flat and win. If we come out of the gate and execute, which we didn't, then regardless of the toss we win that game, but we didn't.
 
thats true kicker, i thought we had a kicker who could kick it out of the end zone this year but...doesnt seem to be the case
 
HaydenHawk56 said:
Stupid decision by Ferentz and he done this sort of thing before. Actually it would appear to be an aggressive move that is something Kirk is not known for. However, he has managed to take the coin toss and make an aggressive move into a fairly predictable and conservative move. Every opponent knows we will take the ball first. Sometimes we do really well taking the ball to start. However, the strength of this Iowa team is still the defense (despite the drop off in the linebacker and secondary).

Unless you have 2002 type offense at your disposal, you need to play to your strengths. A green oline on the road did not need the spotlight on them to start the game in a very hostile and rowdy crowd atmosphere.
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thanks hayden for the thoughtful reply, agree wholeheartedly
 
HaydenHawk56 said:
Stupid decision by Ferentz and he done this sort of thing before. Actually it would appear to be an aggressive move that is something Kirk is not known for. However, he has managed to take the coin toss and make an aggressive move into a fairly predictable and conservative move. Every opponent knows we will take the ball first. Sometimes we do really well taking the ball to start. However, the strength of this Iowa team is still the defense (despite the drop off in the linebacker and secondary).

Unless you have 2002 type offense at your disposal, you need to play to your strengths. A green oline on the road did not need the spotlight on them to start the game in a very hostile and rowdy crowd atmosphere.
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Stupid decision? Better give him a call and tell him how its done. Im sure your NCAA 11 dynasty is great and he would love to hear about it.
 
crews74 said:
well hawk, that policy should be looked at.........
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I am going to suspect that KF takes the ball first because he likes his teams to win the time of possession. Iowa has ran the ball well the past two games so he prob thought he could have some ball control offense. And in doing that & gaining 25-30 yrd or so & have to punt with a all-american caliber punter, then puts Iowa in an advantage with field position off the bat. This is the way Kirk does it. It didn't work Sat. due to some bad special teams. Kirk makes calculated decisions based on odds, & his decision is that the odds are better for his team if they get the ball first. I trust that & his record shows it over the span of 10 yrs.

Explain to me why NFL teams take the ball all the time & why it is not a good idea.

Ironically, I believe NW last year won the toss at Kinnick & decided to take the ball, I believe, because they knew Iowa usually ends up with it first. I don't recall any adverse weather that day. I just think it was Fitz trying to go against what the opponent likes to do which is smart.
 
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crews74 said:
so because he is blessed with an incredible job and had success, KF is infallible?
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I am sure he makes mistakes quite a bit but nobody on here has enough knowledge to know why he does what he does or certainly not to say he was wrong just based on results.

I am of the belief the best way to shut up a hostile crowd is to go and score on them.
 
crews74 said:
thanks hayden for the thoughtful reply, agree wholeheartedly
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It's funny how the "thoughtful reply" is only when someone agrees with you. Look, you are new around here. This is an opinion board. If you write a thread to make a point or argument then ask for "any thought's", respect the thoughts of others as they should respect your thoughts.

But don't get your panties in a ball when someone is not thinking the same as you. Respect the opinion, especially when they outline reasons why they think decisions are made. This is a learning curve on message boards like these that WE all have had to learn. ;)
 
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