Can Iowa Keep Walking This Tightrope?

thanks Rob... This style of ball is not for me. However, I don't have any say. I can only tune in or tune out. I've been fussing about this offense for most of the last decade. Not one fuss or bitch has caused any change. Its morbid curiosity that keeps me coming back...like when you drive past a bad car accident
 
It does really make you wonder how good Iowa could have been with just an average offense.

Or does the moribund offense fit perfectly with the Parker defensive philosophies? Bend but don't break?

It's way beyond my limited knowledge.
 
I'm not saying our defense would have any better results with a better offense, but bottom line a good offense is a good defense. As salty as our defense is think how much more lethal they'd be if our offense consistently put together drives in which the chains moved regularly and the offense ate large amounts of time off the clock and ended up in the end zone. Then, not only is the defense fresh coming on to the field, but they're also in a position where they can take a few more chances knowing that they're not a slip up away from putting the team in a deficit.

And not to take anything away from special teams, but it's been said time and time again that the fact Taylor is more popular then our QB as well as our fan base priding themselves in wearing shirts glamorizing our punting game is nothing more then a slap in the face to our offense. Bottom line, as much as I love our punter and special teams they'd be just another solid unit if we weren't so damned dependent on them game in and game out flipping the field and giving our defense field position to work with just to get field goals.
 
RobHowe said:
I suck at math but have to think the odds of Iowa being able to win 70 percent of its last 33 games (start of ‘21) with one of the county’s worst offenses are extremely long. It’s crazy to me.
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Exactly... However that's also where the schedule comes into play... The BIG west is soft as wet toilet paper and so has Iowa's non conference schedule. How many games has Iowa won that they were the underdog in? Those few games for sure are where it turns heads. But Iowa couldn't do that consistently and we'll find that out starting next yr with the new schedules and conference additions.

Iowa could have same team they have now and have 4 more losses pretty easily next yr. Enjoy all the Ws now cause unless things drastically change things are about to get rough...
 
ChosenChildren said:
It does really make you wonder how good Iowa could have been with just an average offense.

Or does the moribund offense fit perfectly with the Parker defensive philosophies? Bend but don't break?

It's way beyond my limited knowledge.
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I'm a Steelers fan and Iowa and what the Steelers are going thru now really parallel each other, it seems. Must be the jersey's.
 
kicker22 said:
I'm not saying our defense would have any better results with a better offense, but bottom line a good offense is a good defense. As salty as our defense is think how much more lethal they'd be if our offense consistently put together drives in which the chains moved regularly and the offense ate large amounts of time off the clock and ended up in the end zone. Then, not only is the defense fresh coming on to the field, but they're also in a position where they can take a few more chances knowing that they're not a slip up away from putting the team in a deficit.

And not to take anything away from special teams, but it's been said time and time again that the fact Taylor is more popular then our QB as well as our fan base priding themselves in wearing shirts glamorizing our punting game is nothing more then a slap in the face to our offense. Bottom line, as much as I love our punter and special teams they'd be just another solid unit if we weren't so damned dependent on them game in and game out flipping the field and giving our defense field position to work with just to get field goals.
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Yea, they would most likely do better in those games against the highly ranked teams. As you point out, they would get rest and start in better field position.
 
We are in the sunset of the program, fellas. It’s the truth. Enjoy it while it’s fizzling out.


KF is knowingly tanking the program. I don’t know if it’s because he really thinks his son can take over the keys, or whether he knows he can’t so he’s destroying it on purpose out of spite, but it’s one of those two things. I talked again this weekend to a couple people heavily involved with the financial side of the Swarm (one is a really big individual donor), and they both said with absolute 100% certainty that Kirk believes Brian is the next guy in charge and will not even consider the possibility. Call it stupid if you want, but none of us here have any better sources unless you can give us one.

That same donor thinks that Kirk’s ignorance to Brian’s alternate future is neurosis a la John DuPont without the murder and paranoia. Not kidding. He genuinely thinks he’s off his rocker mentally.

I’ll always love the Hawks greatly and I’ll always cheer and watch. But when LeVar Woods is taking teams to natty championship games you can bet your ass I’m wearing that team’s hoodies all year. Don’t blame me, I’ve told this board for years he should be the next guy. He’s the next Hayden, not Brain Farence.
 
Fryowa said:
We are in the sunset of the program, fellas. It’s the truth. Enjoy it while it’s fizzling out.


KF is knowingly tanking the program. I don’t know if it’s because he really thinks his son can take over the keys, or whether he knows he can’t so he’s destroying it on purpose out of spite, but it’s one of those two things. I talked again this weekend to a couple people heavily involved with the financial side of the Swarm (one is a really big individual donor), and they both said with absolute 100% certainty that Kirk believes Brian is the next guy in charge and will not even consider the possibility. Call it stupid if you want, but none of us here have any better sources unless you can give us one.

That same donor thinks that Kirk’s ignorance to Brian’s alternate future is neurosis a la John DuPont without the murder and paranoia. Not kidding. He genuinely thinks he’s off his rocker mentally.

I’ll always love the Hawks greatly and I’ll always cheer and watch. But when LeVar Woods is taking teams to natty championship games you can bet your ass I’m wearing that team’s hoodies all year. Don’t blame me, I’ve told this board for years he should be the next guy. He’s the next Hayden, not Brain Farence.
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Its a source and its a theory. Could be right.

I think a big part of it is that we don't realize sometimes how absolutely insulated KF is from the rest of the world. We see it in the news, on this board, and with our neighbors. We know how 99.9% of the world sees BF. KF is too busy running a program and coaching to look at the shit we do.

Who is speaking truth to power in that building? Wasn't the last AD and I doubt the new AD will do much until the interim tag is removed. The donors? They have varying opinions I am sure, but how much face time do they really get with the Captain, and do they really have the stones to tell him to his face he needs to fire his son? Doubt it.

The other coaches? Nope. BF is too engrained. And, you don't do well in an organization by stabbing the CEO's son in the back.

While I believe we may be seeing the end of the KF run, I don't think he is tanking. I just think he is in a bubble. He sees a West Title two years ago, almost another last year, and 5-1 so far this year. Those numbers have ALWAYS been good enough for Iowa, even if the way Iowa is getting there of late is flat out embarrassing. So, keep the nose down and keep working and let the chips fall where they may.

In other words, he is not firing Brian because he does not see and hear what the rest of the world does. Its a delusion of sort, but not because he has lost it, but because he lives in a vastly different reality than the rest of us.
 
Fryowa said:
We are in the sunset of the program, fellas. It’s the truth. Enjoy it while it’s fizzling out.


KF is knowingly tanking the program. I don’t know if it’s because he really thinks his son can take over the keys, or whether he knows he can’t so he’s destroying it on purpose out of spite, but it’s one of those two things. I talked again this weekend to a couple people heavily involved with the financial side of the Swarm (one is a really big individual donor), and they both said with absolute 100% certainty that Kirk believes Brian is the next guy in charge and will not even consider the possibility. Call it stupid if you want, but none of us here have any better sources unless you can give us one.

That same donor thinks that Kirk’s ignorance to Brian’s alternate future is neurosis a la John DuPont without the murder and paranoia. Not kidding. He genuinely thinks he’s off his rocker mentally.

I’ll always love the Hawks greatly and I’ll always cheer and watch. But when LeVar Woods is taking teams to natty championship games you can bet your ass I’m wearing that team’s hoodies all year. Don’t blame me, I’ve told this board for years he should be the next guy. He’s the next Hayden, not Brain Farence.
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All I can do is laugh to keep from crying... We'll know soon enough this feels like it's it after this yr. He can't come back next yr. This team without total gutting of the O won't win 5 games next yr. KF knows it and he won't want to be here for that.

He'll ride this yr out win 9 games and pretend everyone won't think he's an emperor with no clothes on. Only reason they've won so much despite the O being bad is the other teams have been worse. It's not rocket science. But good bye BIG west division and hello USC, UCLA, WA, and Oregon along with playing the eastern teams more often. Fans that think 8-9 wins should be the floor for Iowa going forward will have a big time rude awakening. This yr is it for quite awhile I'm afraid. Enjoy it
 
Look, if Iowa somehow beats Wisconsin this weekend, then we should all just shut the F up and enjoy the magic show. I don't care how light the schedule is, winning double digit football games in one college season is damn hard. I don't give a rip about style points. His system is certainly dumb to the rest of the world, but wins are wins.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
All I can do is laugh to keep from crying... We'll know soon enough this feels like it's it after this yr. He can't come back next yr. This team without total gutting of the O won't win 5 games next yr. KF knows it and he won't want to be here for that.

He'll ride this yr out win 9 games and pretend everyone won't think he's an emperor with no clothes on. Only reason they've won so much despite the O being bad is the other teams have been worse. It's not rocket science. But good bye BIG west division and hello USC, UCLA, WA, and Oregon along with playing the eastern teams more often. Fans that think 8-9 wins should be the floor for Iowa going forward will have a big time rude awakening. This yr is it for quite awhile I'm afraid. Enjoy it
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I AM going to enjoy it, for exactly those reasons!
NorthKCHawk said:
Its a source and its a theory. Could be right.

I think a big part of it is that we don't realize sometimes how absolutely insulated KF is from the rest of the world. We see it in the news, on this board, and with our neighbors. We know how 99.9% of the world sees BF. KF is too busy running a program and coaching to look at the shit we do.

Who is speaking truth to power in that building? Wasn't the last AD and I doubt the new AD will do much until the interim tag is removed. The donors? They have varying opinions I am sure, but how much face time do they really get with the Captain, and do they really have the stones to tell him to his face he needs to fire his son? Doubt it.

The other coaches? Nope. BF is too engrained. And, you don't do well in an organization by stabbing the CEO's son in the back.

While I believe we may be seeing the end of the KF run, I don't think he is tanking. I just think he is in a bubble. He sees a West Title two years ago, almost another last year, and 5-1 so far this year. Those numbers have ALWAYS been good enough for Iowa, even if the way Iowa is getting there of late is flat out embarrassing. So, keep the nose down and keep working and let the chips fall where they may.

In other words, he is not firing Brian because he does not see and hear what the rest of the world does. Its a delusion of sort, but not because he has lost it, but because he lives in a vastly different reality than the rest of us.
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He's insulated, but I don't think as completely as you suggest. He knows what folks are saying, as does Brian, which is Brian said prior to the season "If this is my last year as OC, I'm okay with that." But you nailed it that wins and losses is all KF cares about in the end. He sees the Hawks competing for West Division titles every year and winning 7-9 games a year as successful. And I don't disagree with that perspective.
I do NOT think he's a visionary, and I doubt he's spent much time seriously considering what adding Oregon, Washington, UsC and UCLA to the BTen means. On the other hand, I'm not sure MN, IL, NW, NE have it any different -- going forward all those former West Division teams are going to struggle to win more than 5 BTen games in any given season.
 
Fryowa said:
We are in the sunset of the program, fellas. It’s the truth. Enjoy it while it’s fizzling out.


KF is knowingly tanking the program. I don’t know if it’s because he really thinks his son can take over the keys, or whether he knows he can’t so he’s destroying it on purpose out of spite, but it’s one of those two things. I talked again this weekend to a couple people heavily involved with the financial side of the Swarm (one is a really big individual donor), and they both said with absolute 100% certainty that Kirk believes Brian is the next guy in charge and will not even consider the possibility. Call it stupid if you want, but none of us here have any better sources unless you can give us one.

That same donor thinks that Kirk’s ignorance to Brian’s alternate future is neurosis a la John DuPont without the murder and paranoia. Not kidding. He genuinely thinks he’s off his rocker mentally.

I’ll always love the Hawks greatly and I’ll always cheer and watch. But when LeVar Woods is taking teams to natty championship games you can bet your ass I’m wearing that team’s hoodies all year. Don’t blame me, I’ve told this board for years he should be the next guy. He’s the next Hayden, not Brain Farence.
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I have a helluva source (sounds like it may be one you're talking about) that said a while back that if KF quit this year, there is no one on the current staff that would get the job. Give it 3 or 4 more years and that changes things. He made it sound like BF isn't an option (he didn't say what KF's feelings about that are), but didn't give any names of people that may be ready for it (or would want it) in that 3-4 year time frame.
 
Look, its not exactly a hot take saying that the KF era is drawing to a close. The man is eligible for SS. He could retire after this year regardless of what happens.

If he wins 9 or more games this season, he will be back and his staff will be however he wants it to be.

If he wins 8, its that annoying grey area Iowa is always in. Not too hot, not too cool.

Anything 7 or under and I think that the new AD threatens to fire his son if he doesn't either retire or make wholesale changes on offense. If things don't go well the rest of the year, KF has a vested interest in carving out a soft landing for his son, who still hopes to coach somewhere for 20 more years.
 
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