hawkdrummer1
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True. I'm just saying that a 4-8 Notre Dame or Texas or Oregon is still much much more of a draw than a 10-2 Wyoming.
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True. I'm just saying that a 4-8 Notre Dame or Texas or Oregon is still much much more of a draw than a 10-2 Wyoming.
Very true. If Iowa beats Wyoming the only way the get any respect for it will be if Wyoming runs the table (which would include a victory against Oregon) and wins their conference. Even then it probably wouldn't be viewed the same as if Iowa beat a West Virginia or Tennessee etc type team.
hawkdrummer1
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Even is Wyoming runs the table...few people will notice because..well, it's Wyoming with a Wyoming schedule. Beating a .500 WVU, Tennessee or Oregon would be perceived as a better win.
mopkins
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None of those teams have an in-state rival from another conference. Except Penn State which you already pointed out plays Pitt which basically proves my point.
Iowa is actually in a strange and somewhat unique position where they have two power 5 teams in the same state who play in different conferences. It's not as common as you might think and for a State the size of iowa it's really unique
The gophers also play middle Tennessee and buffalo. Nebraska also plays Arkansas State and northern Illinois. Maryland plays Towson and ucf.
It's not hard to understand. Just like Iowa, almost every team plays one power 5 nonconference game and 2 cupcakes. Hell, friggin Alabama plays Fresno State, Colorado State and Mercer. MERCER. THREE cupcakes?!?! Where's the outrage? There isn't any.
As long as Iowa plays Iowa State every year, this is the schedule we get.
HawkGold
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You just stated exactly what I was saying. It isn't KFs fault if that's the system he wants to run. It explains a whole host of things about how some think he doesn't start the best players. He for sure starts the players he think best for his system.
HawkGold
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You are choosing to change the equation. Put another way, since you brought up rhabdo, what happened to the players who left the program? Why did they leave? Were they forced out? Did they leave because they wanted to leave? Was it that serious of an injury? To have that many leave, it begs a natural question that is way more pertinent than the grassy knoll. That question, to my limited knowledge has never been answered and it is a legit question.
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As per the grassy knoll, maybe you saw where they are begging to release archives and the Warren Commission, did in fact leave out that Lee H.O. did in fact have a girlfriend at the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City when they had the information and chose to leave it out.
About Elvis, I haven't seen his ghost in a couple of years.
Joshbrown
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This makes no sense, he actually said, IOWA PLAYS A CUPCAKE SCHEDULE JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. Rutgers (the weakest team in the conference) is playing Washington, coming off a 12 win season. Sorry but our OOC is as weak as the goose-stepper's logic. I'll give you the conference schedule helps make up for the non-con. But KF and Gary really need to up their game.
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IndianaHawk
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Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Northwestern
Lots of cupcakes. Who cares if not all 12 games are treacherous. If a big 12 team scheduled 2 big ten ooc games, some would say they have a hard schedule, even though playing in the big 12. I have zero problems with our schedule. Zero.
HomerChampless
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You guys do realize the New England Patriots use the same tree scheme/'take advantage of what the pass defense gives you' pass offense Iowa had with GD? GD may have tried to mold Iowa receivers to be pro receivers but was fired for his efforts.
HawkGold
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Defenses dared Iowa to throw over the top. Iowa didn't try to take advantage of that very much.
GD was hired because KF wanted a yes sir guy with a conservative approach (short passing game with a no fumble running game). GD was fired because Iowa couldn't be successful doing what KF wanted with the players he was given.
I'm not in disagreement that GD was able to mold players to be looked at by the NFL. Getting players (even at a low level) into the NFL is one of KFs program objectives for recruiting. There were a number of similarities between the Texas way under Brown and the KF way. The problem for Texas is the real exciting guys towards the end were going to Baylor and TCU where exciting offenses were the game.
proudhawkfan21
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Before we all lose sight of what happened last year....the run game was fantastic. Good combo and use of two 1000 yard backs. Two different running styles. I would have liked for them to use wadley in the passing game more, but, they told him how to get on the field more....make your body big ten ready. First instinct is i want wadley touching it every play...then the fatigue, fumbles, overall effectiveness, injury potential questions surface. Wadley is not Jesus. Id call his overall Iowa journey to this point a smashing success.
HomerChampless
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When CJ and T. Smith were in the game (you forget two seasons ago?) there was over the top passing.
KF's style of offense is more boring, more TE targeting and more conducive to quality receivers going somewhere other than Iowa than G. DAVIS's offenses ever were...at any school. Where is the over the top passing game in KF's offense? Can you find it? I sure can't. What are you talking about?
I dunno. Many on HN think it's OK, it's great even, for Iowa teams to have a mediocre record but send players to the NFL Why doesn't that apply to the passing offense? Oh, I know, because your'e offensive geniuses.
HawkGold
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I would have preferred to open the game up earlier. I agree the RG was mostly a success. 34 total rushing yards against NDSU was not smashing (he was injured) Yes would like to have seen him more on passing situations.
Al I'm saying is that KF has a system. Wadley doesn't really fit the system like a square peg in a square opening. I do believe Daniels fit KF's system better.
If KF sticks to his system against a gamer QB coming up, could be a solid Iowa win or a smashing upset. Hope Wadley gets to turn it lose.
HawkGold
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Not sure what your position is in a friendly way of asking. You seem to have contradicting statements on over the top passing. Yes CJ threw over the top some (MSU). Defenses stack up against Iowa and dare them to throw over the top. So, I'm not sure of the "what are you talking about comment.
We seem to agree, but then you don't think so. Maybe my dyslexia is strong today.
SpiderRico
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And you do realize, don't you, that NFL players are paid professionals who do this thing for a living....who have all the time in the world to watch film, get comfortable with each other, and know each other's tendancies, right? Not to mention that they have the greatest QB who ever lived, right?
It was silly as all get out to expect a college football team and players to be proficient at "read and react" route trees...and the stats bore that out with a compilation of some of the worst passing offenses in the history of Iowa football.....
HomerChampless
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Isn't there a thread somewhere where O'Brien of the Texans says McCarron is like Wes Welker of the Patriots? Is that because Mc Carron runs routes like Welker? Because McCarron reacts like Welker? Because McCarron is as fast as Welker? Because O'Brien is dangling McCarron as trade bait to the Patriots?
