MoseSchrute
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^Actually, KF mentioned being more involved in the offensive meeting room than the defensive one.
Biggest Concerns Following Saturday's Scrimmage
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RocknRollface
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I find it very hard to believe you weren't complaining about KOK because no one has ever been satisfied with the offense under Ferentz. The offenses were not good then and the talent was not being maximized save for the the one year KOK was allowed to run a different offense. 2004.
Everyone complained about KOK, except for the ones who were smart enough to know who is really in charge.
Ill give ive you a hint, it's the guy who's title says he's in charge.
KOK was far more vocally hated than Davis.
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RocknRollface
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Yeah. I guess the lack of information gives you an insight into the opinion.
HawgEyeState
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Hey, relax fellas.
We're still undefeated, after Saturday, so kinda gotta chill.
Looking forward to seeing Hawkeyes in Kinnick in 12 days Go Hawks
We're still undefeated, after Saturday, so kinda gotta chill.
Looking forward to seeing Hawkeyes in Kinnick in 12 days Go Hawks
deanvogs
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I went to the scrimmage and I'm not any more worried that I was before about this upcoming season. I not any more encourage either, basically about what I figured.
My half glass empty takes:
1) Gonna have a problem at RT. Boone seemed to hold his own at LT, but Ike got beat multiple times by speed rushes. Nothing fancy, they could just beat him around the edge.
2) WR still don't get open. Seems like another thread has turned into a KMM bashing thread, but at least the dude was open a lot. Even being our #1 guy, he still got open, that is a skill that most of our other WR don't possess.
3) Backup QB now that JR is gone.
4) RB weren't that impressive, but maybe that was a function of the OL really struggling on Saturday.
My glass half full takes:
1) LB play looked significantly better. I also thought each LB looked LB sized, and not undersized like last year.
2) Defense overall looked pretty good. The DL didn't seem to lose much even though we lost LTP and Davis. The secondary also brought it in this practice. King is a stud, and locks down one side. Lowery had several big hits, and Taylor/Snyder both looked solid.
3) CJB has got a cannon. He is also good at tucking and running when he needs to (and he will have to this year). He is gonna make throws that have our jaws drop. Plus he wasn't making dumb throws or reads. Sure he tried going over the top once or twice when they WR wasn't open, but that is like a punt. Weigers was throwing over the middle into coverage all practice (and some were picked and others should have been). CJ didn't do that, he throws over the middle when players are open, and hits them. He basically doesn't force things on the field.
4) Daniels physically looks great, and seems to have more burst this year. Mitchell looks the part physically at RB. If he were playing WR, he would look like a monster out wide. If you just looked at him, you would think he played RB or LB, not WR or DB.
My half glass empty takes:
1) Gonna have a problem at RT. Boone seemed to hold his own at LT, but Ike got beat multiple times by speed rushes. Nothing fancy, they could just beat him around the edge.
2) WR still don't get open. Seems like another thread has turned into a KMM bashing thread, but at least the dude was open a lot. Even being our #1 guy, he still got open, that is a skill that most of our other WR don't possess.
3) Backup QB now that JR is gone.
4) RB weren't that impressive, but maybe that was a function of the OL really struggling on Saturday.
My glass half full takes:
1) LB play looked significantly better. I also thought each LB looked LB sized, and not undersized like last year.
2) Defense overall looked pretty good. The DL didn't seem to lose much even though we lost LTP and Davis. The secondary also brought it in this practice. King is a stud, and locks down one side. Lowery had several big hits, and Taylor/Snyder both looked solid.
3) CJB has got a cannon. He is also good at tucking and running when he needs to (and he will have to this year). He is gonna make throws that have our jaws drop. Plus he wasn't making dumb throws or reads. Sure he tried going over the top once or twice when they WR wasn't open, but that is like a punt. Weigers was throwing over the middle into coverage all practice (and some were picked and others should have been). CJ didn't do that, he throws over the middle when players are open, and hits them. He basically doesn't force things on the field.
4) Daniels physically looks great, and seems to have more burst this year. Mitchell looks the part physically at RB. If he were playing WR, he would look like a monster out wide. If you just looked at him, you would think he played RB or LB, not WR or DB.
Hawknick
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I disagree with the skeptics. This team is looking good this year.
Lomax is looking great against both the run and the pass.
Nate Meier is really looking strong and fast! He is going to have a big year!
All of the linebackers are looking very good. They are stepping up big time.
The DTs are playing well as I expected too.
Boone Myers is stepping up big time at LT.
The running backs are showing great speed burst and vision.
The kicking game looks very solid.
Etc etc
Lomax is looking great against both the run and the pass.
Nate Meier is really looking strong and fast! He is going to have a big year!
All of the linebackers are looking very good. They are stepping up big time.
The DTs are playing well as I expected too.
Boone Myers is stepping up big time at LT.
The running backs are showing great speed burst and vision.
The kicking game looks very solid.
Etc etc
HawkPrdatr40
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BCS Title run!
hawkeyebob62
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Disagree on the last sentence.
And KoK got multiple passes for 2003/2004 with player injuries/whole unit decimation.
Like I said, KoK did some head-scratchers (every coordinator has). But we moved the ball with his offenses. Players who had (seemingly) no business on a D-1 field became good role players, and some times stood out. The mistakes we saw WERE usually a matter of execution.
The mistakes we see now? Most can't be explained.
hawkeyebob62
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Umm...wouldn't you be after the last few seasons?
And as an OL coach (at least historically), I would think that's where he spends more time. But he definitely said he is NOT that involved in the offense, and prefers to "leave it to the experts", per se.
THAT is what gets me. How can he see what happens week-in/week-out and NOT be more concerned? How can he defend GD? (OK, publicly, sure, because he isn't a throw-anyone-under-the-bus type) He has said, on MULTIPLE occasions, that GD is great at his job! WTH?!
hawkeyebob62
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Nope. FPS, or whatever it's called.
HawkeyeMHA
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Couple takes from the scrimmage-
Jaleel- looked good. Deep in the backfield all day. Meier- Also made a couple of nice plays.
Ike- as good as Jaleel looked, Ike not so good. Seemed every time i saw an O linemen get noticeably beat, it was Ike. Early in his career and the season of course but he has a lot of work to do if he's the next in that great long line of o linemen.
Wiegers- pray Goldie stays healthy. If wiegers is in we are in trouble. By the end of the practice he was having extreme difficulty completing very short passes in live action.
Field goal kickers- looked pretty good. They were knocking them through in the simulations. That's enough talk of fg kickers.
Scholarship Punters- looked real bad, all ten or whatever of them.
Drills- appears the coaches did get some value from the trips they took. The rb's in particular had a lot of new drills this year that they had to have picked up somewhere?
Comradery- I've been to all three of the DSM practices and it seemed to me there was more camaradery this year than the other two years. I didn't even notice it the last two years enough to even comment on it, noticed it early in the practice this year. Whether it leads to anything, who knows.
WR Harris- alligator arms big time. Ran the inside screen to him two times and both times Pulled those arms back real quick in traffic. The captain pulled him over for a quck chat after one of them. IF your hoping he's someone that steps up this year at wr, not so sure.
Overall- in three years attending these practices, this year I saw the least amount of big plays, least amount of offense, least amount of playmakers on both sides of the ball. Either we are all equally really good, or, well, you know. Outside of Jaleel, a couple nice throws from goldie, nothing really stood out.
Jaleel- looked good. Deep in the backfield all day. Meier- Also made a couple of nice plays.
Ike- as good as Jaleel looked, Ike not so good. Seemed every time i saw an O linemen get noticeably beat, it was Ike. Early in his career and the season of course but he has a lot of work to do if he's the next in that great long line of o linemen.
Wiegers- pray Goldie stays healthy. If wiegers is in we are in trouble. By the end of the practice he was having extreme difficulty completing very short passes in live action.
Field goal kickers- looked pretty good. They were knocking them through in the simulations. That's enough talk of fg kickers.
Scholarship Punters- looked real bad, all ten or whatever of them.
Drills- appears the coaches did get some value from the trips they took. The rb's in particular had a lot of new drills this year that they had to have picked up somewhere?
Comradery- I've been to all three of the DSM practices and it seemed to me there was more camaradery this year than the other two years. I didn't even notice it the last two years enough to even comment on it, noticed it early in the practice this year. Whether it leads to anything, who knows.
WR Harris- alligator arms big time. Ran the inside screen to him two times and both times Pulled those arms back real quick in traffic. The captain pulled him over for a quck chat after one of them. IF your hoping he's someone that steps up this year at wr, not so sure.
Overall- in three years attending these practices, this year I saw the least amount of big plays, least amount of offense, least amount of playmakers on both sides of the ball. Either we are all equally really good, or, well, you know. Outside of Jaleel, a couple nice throws from goldie, nothing really stood out.
HawkeyeMHA
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Oh, I thought bazata looked good too. Made some plays, looks the part
MiniMoeHawk
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So much fail in this post. The defense is no where near at the talent level they had earlier in the deacde. The punting game is the worst it has been under KF. From what it sounds like the offense is slow to come around so far this year. That doesn't mean the defense is the steel curtain.
Hawknick
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Iowa has 4 DBs who have started 1 or more games, 3 LBs, 2 DLs. Such a complete group does not happen often. On special teams 2 experianced punters, 2 kickers, long snapper, kick returner, 2 punt returners. Between the defense and special teams they will be putting the offense in good position. The offense returns 3 OL starters, 1 WR, 3 FBs, experienced tight ends a rb with starts. This is one of the most complete teams in a while.
I think the secondary will be pretty good. King is a stud. Outside of that we are hoping for improvements from Lomax and the combo of Mabin/Fleming/Draper. Mabin was up and down last yr when he was good he was good. When he was bad he was benched... It says something when your a starter at Iowa and your benched during a game if you want to talk about something that doesn't happen often that's it.... And then we are breaking in a new safety with Snyder it sounds like. He's a question mark can't say he'll be good or bad yet.
As far as punters go..... Unless Koehn gets the gig there's no reason to not expect more of the same from the other two... 36-38 yard punts and that just sucks unless your punting from midfield all the time. Those two aren't going to magically improve that much. Punting isn't a position that does that usually. Koehn should be rock solid at kicking this year and I have a feeling he'll be doing it all and punting too.
As far as O goes I think the skill positions will be better then last year almost across the board. However the Oline that didn't play well last year overall lost the two best players that were on it for kids who've hardly ever played.... So CJB and that O will only do as well as that line allows them to be.
I know your the eternal optimist Hawknik but returning starters can be a really skewed thing to look at. Look at it this way. Those returning starters are those that were playing for a mediocre 7 win team with the softest schedule I can ever remember having and got their you know what kicked in their bowl game. I want the Hawks to be great too but there has to be some realism involved with analyzing what's out there too.
deanvogs
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Hitchens, Kirksey, and Morris were ripped to shreds on the boards their first year playing. Each year they got progressively better. I can't name a 3 year starting LB under Ferentz that didn't end up a damned good LB. I'm not as concerned about the LB and D as I am the OL and offense.
That makes my point for me. The BIG west was bad and we were worse.... And who's not to say those other schools are that bad again this year?
