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Hawkfromnorwalk
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I saw that. Pretty funny stuff there. Do you think Iowa would have to automatically schedule ISU every year if they weren't in a BCS conference anymore?
busabus114
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Whats with the ISU obsession right now?
HAWKEYESTATE4ever
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I agree. I hate the Iowa-ISU game. We win, so what we were supposed to. They win, we never hear the end of it.
They have everything to gain and nothing to lose every single year.
We have nothing to gain and everything to lose (see 2002).
busabus114
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I kindve agree but if we are better we should just win. If ISU is decent and we win it is a nice non conference boost like it was last year
HAWKEYESTATE4ever
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True. But, as they say, "anything can happen in a rivalry game."
You see it every year. When one team (ISU) has one goal every year (to beat Iowa), and the other (Iowa) has much bigger goals (conference titles and major bowl games), it levels the playing field quite a bit.
I would rather play Nebraska every year, or any other BCS school in a home/home series. I would even be cool with just rotating it every two years w/ different teams (kind of like we did w/ Syracuse and Arizona). We did it w/ Pittsburgh too, although they scheduled those two way too far apart. I like having teams play back-to-back years. Just not Iowa vs. Iowa State.
jameskalina
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Iowa State gets more out of the game than Iowa does.
It would not break my heart to see the series dropped. Iowa would be free to schedule a team for a game that would be of more interest nationally with more revenue coming in for the Hawks.
It would not break my heart to see the series dropped. Iowa would be free to schedule a team for a game that would be of more interest nationally with more revenue coming in for the Hawks.
KnightHawk9
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I think dropping that game could hurt in-state recruiting. Don't want to look like we're scared to play them. Besides, if they can become a consistent bowl team, it just helps our rankings to beat them.
DFaceHawkeye
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I don't think the "powers that be" within the state will allow this game to get dropped from the schedule.
GhostofBTT
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If ISU does not get picked up by a power league, then I think that Iowa's requirement to play them should go away. I also don't think it looks good for ISU to get picked up by a league.
I live down here in SEC country, so I hear a lot about how the other leagues are planning to deal with the realignment. Of the Big 12 teams, ISU and Baylor look the most vulnerable.
Texas and A&M are a combo package. Oklahoma is good and OK State is probably good because of the financial backing of their sports program. While there is no way OK State would get picked up by the Big Ten, it fits an SEC profile fairly well.
Texas is an interesting deal. They really are concerned about the lack of academics in the SEC. While they are a good fit football wise, the scholarly community does not want to be connected to the poor academics at the other Southern universities. That is why the Texas to the Pac Ten thinking is actually not so ridiculous, also remember that the Alamo Bowl jettisoned the Big Ten for the Pac Ten and the Pac Ten also plays in the Sun Bowl.
One school of thought has the Pac Ten taking Utah, Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas, and Oklahoma. That would allow a four division breakdown of California: USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal. Northern: UW, OSU, WSU, Oregon. Mountain: Utah, Colorado, ASU, UofA, and Southwest: OU, Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas.
That would be a bad*** conference, with a really Big Television viewing area with a lot of the country's major television markets. It would REALLY rival the Big Ten 16 team conference.
If that happened, the battle would be between the SEC and ACC for the remaining teams. You would expect the SEC to be happy with Texas Tech, OK State, and Kansas State, the question would be if they tried to raid the ACC. However, the ACC has more top TV markets. So, it makes more sense for them to try to be aggressive.
Going back to the subject, I just don't see ISU fitting in anywhere, unless somehow one of the weaker leagues, SEC or ACC, ended up packaging an ISU, KSU, OSU, TTech division. However, I don't see how that division could be profitable. Odds are the SEC takes KSU, OSU, and TTech, which would just expand their TV market, without too much risk, and ISU ends up in CUSA, or some other lower league.
I live down here in SEC country, so I hear a lot about how the other leagues are planning to deal with the realignment. Of the Big 12 teams, ISU and Baylor look the most vulnerable.
Texas and A&M are a combo package. Oklahoma is good and OK State is probably good because of the financial backing of their sports program. While there is no way OK State would get picked up by the Big Ten, it fits an SEC profile fairly well.
Texas is an interesting deal. They really are concerned about the lack of academics in the SEC. While they are a good fit football wise, the scholarly community does not want to be connected to the poor academics at the other Southern universities. That is why the Texas to the Pac Ten thinking is actually not so ridiculous, also remember that the Alamo Bowl jettisoned the Big Ten for the Pac Ten and the Pac Ten also plays in the Sun Bowl.
One school of thought has the Pac Ten taking Utah, Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas, and Oklahoma. That would allow a four division breakdown of California: USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal. Northern: UW, OSU, WSU, Oregon. Mountain: Utah, Colorado, ASU, UofA, and Southwest: OU, Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas.
That would be a bad*** conference, with a really Big Television viewing area with a lot of the country's major television markets. It would REALLY rival the Big Ten 16 team conference.
If that happened, the battle would be between the SEC and ACC for the remaining teams. You would expect the SEC to be happy with Texas Tech, OK State, and Kansas State, the question would be if they tried to raid the ACC. However, the ACC has more top TV markets. So, it makes more sense for them to try to be aggressive.
Going back to the subject, I just don't see ISU fitting in anywhere, unless somehow one of the weaker leagues, SEC or ACC, ended up packaging an ISU, KSU, OSU, TTech division. However, I don't see how that division could be profitable. Odds are the SEC takes KSU, OSU, and TTech, which would just expand their TV market, without too much risk, and ISU ends up in CUSA, or some other lower league.
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DodgerHawki
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I don't get the angst among some Iowa fans...
for dropping this game. It's our in-state rival, there's nothing wrong with playing them in football and basketball. With four non-conference games in football, it works out fine to play ISU, another BCS school (Arizona this year) and then two lower-level teams. If we lose the game, we lose the game.
for dropping this game. It's our in-state rival, there's nothing wrong with playing them in football and basketball. With four non-conference games in football, it works out fine to play ISU, another BCS school (Arizona this year) and then two lower-level teams. If we lose the game, we lose the game.
Re: I don't get the angst among some Iowa fans...
Dude, don't you understand that the whole gist of this discussion is that ISU most likely will not be another BCS school? They WOULD be a lower tier school.
Dude, don't you understand that the whole gist of this discussion is that ISU most likely will not be another BCS school? They WOULD be a lower tier school.
loesshillshawk
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Wanna bet...the powers that be are not the B10.
imported_ankle23
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are you serious? in our constitution? doubtful.
NewMexHawk
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When the clowns are forced out of the BCS and have to join another conference like a mid major or Conference USA, Iowa will no longer be required to play the clowns except every now and then to help their athletic budget. The clowns will not get the type of player that Iowa gets because clown u will not attract BCS players. They are not going to have the budget to recruit nationally and will in effect have to recruit like UNI does and have to compete against UNI for players in the upper midwest.
The realignment of college football is going to be GREAT for the State of Iowa because Iowa will be the ONLY major player left in the state. The clowns are going to be relegated to has beens.
THIS will be one of the greatest days in Iowa sports history! The destruction of clown sports!!!
The realignment of college football is going to be GREAT for the State of Iowa because Iowa will be the ONLY major player left in the state. The clowns are going to be relegated to has beens.
THIS will be one of the greatest days in Iowa sports history! The destruction of clown sports!!!
NewMexHawk
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